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Guardians just came back from being down 4-1 and then being down 10-7 to win the game.

the Guardians are YOUNGER than most TRIPLE A teams. Their best 5 prospects have not even been in the majors yet.

thats not hyperbole either- the average triple A team's roster is older than the Guardians.

I expected a top 10 pitching staff, and a bottom 10 offense out of this team. The pitching has been good. The hitting- surprisingly- has been pretty good too.

I expected about 84-85 wins. Looks like they might break 90.

only thing is- they have had a TON of rainouts and have played like 5-6 games less than just about every other major league team. I heard they have 29 games in 27 days coming up. Thats brutal on a staff.
 

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Guardians got - for 2 years of Mike Clevinger--- one year which he sat out the entire season with Tommy John:

-Cal Quintrell
-Owen Miller
-Josh Naylor
-Austin Hedges
-Gabriel Arias- who is a top 100 prospect
-Jose Cantillo- a fringe/decent prospect pitcher
 

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is there a better manager in MLB than Terry Francona? I certainly dont think so. What he is doing with this young group is pretty incredible. This was supposed to be a rebuild- playing a ton of kids. I thought there pitching staff would keep them decent- but man.....I did not expect being in first place at the end of June playing all these kids.
 

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just to be clear on a few things with Watson:

1. If we could have our 3 firsts back and Baker at QB I would take it in a second.

2. I think Watson has some serious problems and did some things very very wrong. I think he needs psychological help and a lot of people deserve apologies and more.

3. I think he should get suspended.

4. I dont think he should get suspended for the entire year since it would totally be out of whack with every shred of precedent- I dont think you can suspend a guy for being scummy - when 2 different grand juries have said there is not even enough evidence to bring a misdemeanor charge. When there are actual violent actions by other NFL players that have garnered far far less than a season suspension- I dont think a season long suspension can be justified in any way shape or form.

5. If its proven- or if there is evidence that he forced anyone to do anything- a 2 year suspension is warranted and i would not bat an eyelash at it.
 

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Guardians just came back from being down 4-1 and then being down 10-7 to win the game.

the Guardians are YOUNGER than most TRIPLE A teams. Their best 5 prospects have not even been in the majors yet.

thats not hyperbole either- the average triple A team's roster is older than the Guardians.

I expected a top 10 pitching staff, and a bottom 10 offense out of this team. The pitching has been good. The hitting- surprisingly- has been pretty good too.

I expected about 84-85 wins. Looks like they might break 90.

only thing is- they have had a TON of rainouts and have played like 5-6 games less than just about every other major league team. I heard they have 29 games in 27 days coming up. Thats brutal on a staff.
Crazy

 

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No the numbers say it’s Taylor Rogers with the Padres
Uggh he has blown so many games and high ERA. He has the most saves. That’s like saying Kenley Jansen is a top 5 closer. The guy blows games but his offense bails him out and he gets the win. Rogers 2.79 ERA. Jansen’s is over 3.

I would say Hader is an easy #1. Clase and Holmes both top 3.
 

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Uggh he has blown so many games and high ERA. He has the most saves. That’s like saying Kenley Jansen is a top 5 closer. The guy blows games but his offense bails him out and he gets the win. Rogers 2.79 ERA. Jansen’s is over 3.

I would say Hader is an easy #1. Clase and Holmes both top 3.
I agree Hader is 1 for sure but Rogers is 2. He has 3 blown saves and his numbers have gone up a bit as of late but he is solid.
 
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Uggh he has blown so many games and high ERA. He has the most saves. That’s like saying Kenley Jansen is a top 5 closer. The guy blows games but his offense bails him out and he gets the win. Rogers 2.79 ERA. Jansen’s is over 3.

I would say Hader is an easy #1. Clase and Holmes both top 3.
As far as future closers go watch out for that Duran kid in Minny.
 

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I agree Hader is 1 for sure but Rogers is 2. He has 3 blown saves and his numbers have gone up a bit as of late but he is solid.
It's not even about blown saves, he's always in trouble. He has a high ERA. Hader is untouchable but Clase is hitting the gun at 102 or 103 and he finally has his control. Nobody is scared of Rogers. I would take Holmes over Rogers
 

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Just started the last season of Peaky Blinders. Man I love this show. Anyone else watched?
a friend told me to watch so I did. Just couldn't get into to it but admittedly gave up after 2-3 episodes. Should I go back and watch?
 

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totally agree.

I just dont think you can say Watson committed "sexual assault" when 2 grand juries declined to charge him with sexual assault.

I really have no grasp on criminal law. I know very very little about criminal law. I do know that a grand jury requires very very little evidence to charge a person and that 2 separate grand juries- with 14 different accusers- supposedly the 14 strongest cases- declined to charge.

like i said- something is going on here that we dont have the information.
He can say what he wants if it supports his agenda...even though he claims not to have an agenda.
 

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Uggh he has blown so many games and high ERA. He has the most saves. That’s like saying Kenley Jansen is a top 5 closer. The guy blows games but his offense bails him out and he gets the win. Rogers 2.79 ERA. Jansen’s is over 3.

I would say Hader is an easy #1. Clase and Holmes both top 3.

lol

Jansen wasn't a top 5 closer for at least his last 4 years with Dodgers. Other than 2021 when his ERA was 2.22, he hasn't had an ERA under 3 since 2017.
 

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Guardians just came back from being down 4-1 and then being down 10-7 to win the game.

the Guardians are YOUNGER than most TRIPLE A teams. Their best 5 prospects have not even been in the majors yet.

thats not hyperbole either- the average triple A team's roster is older than the Guardians.

I expected a top 10 pitching staff, and a bottom 10 offense out of this team. The pitching has been good. The hitting- surprisingly- has been pretty good too.

I expected about 84-85 wins. Looks like they might break 90.

only thing is- they have had a TON of rainouts and have played like 5-6 games less than just about every other major league team. I heard they have 29 games in 27 days coming up. Thats brutal on a staff.
Truth be told I expected 75-77 wins. Just had zero confidence in the O outside of JRam. No doubt a very pleasant surprise so far and some of these young kids look like keepers.

also in our favor we have played 8-9 more road games than home games....but, yeah, the makeups can hurt. Long way to go.
 
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