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Heatles84

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Nah. He would still have a job if it was just that. I agree that was really minor and didn't bother me. It was the things that came out on Monday.

I was talking about what was said about Eric Reid.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Ya, I don't necessarily agree with the whole kneeling during the national anthem thing.....but it is a form of protest which is not illegal. Thanks for clearing that up, and I agree.
 

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He did nothing wrong. People being dramatic

Yeah I don't exactly get the outrage over this. It seems like he's coddling the relationship with Washington. If Schefter starts burning bridges for the sake of dramatic journalism, it likely costs him insiders, which is why he's in the position he's at today.
 

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He did nothing wrong. People being dramatic

Yeah, to me it kind of depends on the purpose behind it. If it was just to give them a ''heads up'' so they can prepare for a coming shit storm...I don't really have an issue with it. As Heatles said...he still has to make a living on info he gets from teams. That can be hard to do if no one will talk to you. The WFT knows he has to go with the article, that's why they have attorneys and PR firms on retainer. So they wouldn't freeze him out over it if they get a heads up.

The only issue that I could see is if he allowed them to determine what went into the article.
 

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To be fair, Sherman hasn't been convicted (that I'm aware of), while we know Gruden wrote the e-mails.

Point taken though, because Sherman probably shouldn't be eligible to play until the criminal case is sorted out. Plus, it's current while Grudens stuff all looks to be 5-10 years old. That's not even adding in that Sherman has virtually admitted his guilt.

But, the NFL hasn't exactly been known for getting it right on domestic violence issues.

It isn’t just about punishing Gruden though.

At this point it is in the best interest of the Raiders to get a new coach. Players in that locker room are going to look at him different after these emails got out.

When a coach loses the locker room, he has to go. Simple as that. Good chance Gruden had lost the raider locker room.
 

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It isn’t just about punishing Gruden though.

At this point it is in the best interest of the Raiders to get a new coach. Players in that locker room are going to look at him different after these emails got out.

When a coach loses the locker room, he has to go. Simple as that. Good chance Gruden had lost the raider locker room.
I get this.
 

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what kind of fucked up society are we living in where a guys private emails from over a decade ago can be used to get him fired from a job?
 

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what kind of fucked up society are we living in where a guys private emails from over a decade ago can be used to get him fired from a job?
Well they aren’t private if you send them out especially to other employees. If you text those comments to a buddy it’s one thing but to email them is just stupid especially in todays’ society. Everyone is so sensitive these days and not saying the things Gruden wrote weren’t bad bc they were but the point is, you have to watch what you say now more than ever but to email that shit? Cmon man.
 

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what kind of fucked up society are we living in where a guys private emails from over a decade ago can be used to get him fired from a job?

Don’t post offensive shit on the internet.

Pretty simple really.

And Gruden is a grown man who should know better. This isn’t like the cases where they are digging up posts made by athletes when they were teens.
 

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Well they aren’t private if you send them out especially to other employees. If you text those comments to a buddy it’s one thing but to email them is just stupid especially in todays’ society. Everyone is so sensitive these days and not saying the things Gruden wrote weren’t bad bc they were but the point is, you have to watch what you say now more than ever but to email that shit? Cmon man.
my main point is I think you should place everything in the correct context. I obviously think Gruden said some stupid things. 10 years ago what he said was not construed as anything near as serious as it is today.

The standards and morales of a society change over time---- and this is in a lot of situations- where people try and apply a current standard of behavior to behavior from years ago when the standards were different.

Real question- does anyone thing, up to a week ago, that Gruden was sending emails like that, and still talking like that? I do not know for sure of course, but I kind of doubt it.
 
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