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Who was Jordan's only Bulls teammate to also be teammates with LeBron at one point in his career?
 

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Wow. Good question.

Guessing it was somebody who played a bit role on one of LBJ's first Cleveland teams. Those Bulls teams were pretty old though. Probably somebody just hanging on.

Going with Jason Caffey, probably wrong though
 

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Its nice that things like this can be used to mention the 2 together. Only way it’s happening.
 

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Scott Williams:noidea:

It was Williams, who spent his initial three years in the NBA as part of the Bulls' first three-peat from 1990-1993, while also playing in 19 games for the 2004-05 Cavs at the tender age of 36.
 

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It was Williams, who spent his initial three years in the NBA as part of the Bulls' first three-peat from 1990-1993, while also playing in 19 games for the 2004-05 Cavs at the tender age of 36.

I've always liked sports trivia & I was still in NE Ohio when he was a Cav. That's a good one to know. But I couldn't remember exactly what year it was. I thought it was LeBron's rookie year.
 

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This was in 1994 during Jordan's retirement year...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ff4ohkVCU

As crazy as it may sound, Jordan probably didn't get the credit he deserved for being the glue that kept those teams together. Other than Jordan, there was only one other player that was part of both the '93 and '96 title teams, and that of course was Scottie Pippen.
 

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This was in 1994 during Jordan's retirement year...

As crazy as it may sound, Jordan probably didn't get the credit he deserved for being the glue that kept those teams together. Other than Jordan, there was only one other player that was part of both the '93 and '96 title teams, and that of course was Scottie Pippen.

Yep.

Defintely crazy to say.

Jordan did not hold those teams together since the entire roster save Pippen turned over between championship runs. Also, he is almost universally considered the GOAT, so he gets plenty of credit.
 

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Yep.

Defintely crazy to say.

Jordan did not hold those teams together since the entire roster save Pippen turned over between championship runs. Also, he is almost universally considered the GOAT, so he gets plenty of credit.

You contradicted yourself here. Point being, during the near-two years he was gone, the Bulls had turned over the entire roster except for Pippen.

Jordan gets all the credit in the world for his talent level and competitive drive. The thing he probably doesn't get enough credit for is that he may have been the most significant glue guy of all-time. Because the Bulls very seldom made significant roster changes while he was around, especially during the dynasty years.
 

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You contradicted yourself here. Point being, during the near-two years he was gone, the Bulls had turned over the entire roster except for Pippen.

Jordan gets all the credit in the world for his talent level and competitive drive. The thing he probably doesn't get enough credit for is that he may have been the most significant glue guy of all-time. Because the Bulls very seldom made significant roster changes while he was around, especially during the dynasty years.

Do you know what a glue guy is?

Glue guys are role players that do the little things to help teams win. Guys that just make everything work without actually doing the heavy lifting. Shane Battier, Malcolm Brogdon, Andre Iguodala, Tristan Thompson are all glue guys.

Jordan is not that. Not even close.
 

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Do you know what a glue guy is?

Glue guys are role players that do the little things to help teams win. Guys that just make everything work without actually doing the heavy lifting. Shane Battier, Malcolm Brogdon, Andre Iguodala, Tristan Thompson are all glue guys.

Jordan is not that. Not even close.

Beyond the point, but whatever floats your boat.
 

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Beyond the point, but whatever floats your boat.

I get what you meant.

But you also used a term that means something else.

Also, Jordan did not have a reputation as a guy who brought teammates together. Quite the opposite actually.

I recommend reading “The Jordan Rules” by Sam Smith. It is a really good read. Smith was one of very few media at the time willing to write about Jordan and his treatment of teammates. It wasn’t always pretty. The Jordan that was portrayed publicly by most media was really just a persona.
 

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I get what you meant.

But you also used a term that means something else.

Also, Jordan did not have a reputation as a guy who brought teammates together. Quite the opposite actually.

I recommend reading “The Jordan Rules” by Sam Smith. It is a really good read. Smith was one of very few media at the time willing to write about Jordan and his treatment of teammates. It wasn’t always pretty. The Jordan that was portrayed publicly by most media was really just a persona.

We've been through this before. The book did not receive the best of reviews and it's wikipedia page is all you need to see in order to show this. It's really only a way for LeBron's nut-lovers to validate his mannerisms from the last decade. Yes, Jordan had his personal flaws as a young man, but anyone who claims they don't is lying though their teeth. Of any past player of any sport, he is the easiest target out there for criticism. Obviously we didn't have Twitter and all this other social media crap in the 90's so we may never know the true story. However, star athletes have a responsibility to keep specific team issues indoors, regardless of any outside noise and/or circumstances.

Jordan did a better job of this than LeBron, plain and simple.

All in all, the end results on the court speak louder than one man's opinion on paper. The fact is that the Bulls rarely made drastic roster changes while Jordan was on the team and it wasn't a coincidence. The 1994 team, while a very good team in it's own right, did not have the same chemistry to compete to a title, as shown by my Scott Williams clip above. And the end result was that they tore the roster apart after the season and needed Jordan's return the following March to save them.
 

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We've been through this before. The book did not receive the best of reviews and it's wikipedia page is all you need to see in order to show this. It's really only a way for LeBron's nut-lovers to validate his mannerisms from the last decade. Yes, Jordan had his personal flaws as a young man, but anyone who claims they don't is lying though their teeth. Of any past player of any sport, he is the easiest target out there for criticism. Obviously we didn't have Twitter and all this other social media crap in the 90's so we may never know the true story. However, star athletes have a responsibility to keep specific team issues indoors, regardless of any outside noise and/or circumstances.

Jordan did a better job of this than LeBron, plain and simple.

All in all, the end results on the court speak louder than one man's opinion on paper. The fact is that the Bulls rarely made drastic roster changes while Jordan was on the team and it wasn't a coincidence. The 1994 team, while a very good team in it's own right, did not have the same chemistry to compete to a title, as shown by my Scott Williams clip above. And the end result was that they tore the roster apart after the season and needed Jordan's return the following March to save them.

Of course they needed Jordan. LOL.

He was the GOAT for Christ sake.

Still not a “glue guy”
 

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Of course they needed Jordan. LOL.

He was the GOAT for Christ sake.

Still not a “glue guy”

Being the so-called "GOAT" is not enough of a stand alone reason. There were also reasons the Bulls needed him at the status he was at the time.

The "GOAT" is also such an overused acronym, especially in this sport...
 

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Being the so-called "GOAT" is not enough of a stand alone reason. There were also reasons the Bulls needed him at the status he was at the time.

The "GOAT" is also such an overused acronym, especially in this sport...

Dude.

Glue guys are role players.

Michael Jordan was not a role player.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As usual.
 
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