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last night i got the news on..the..

Collegiate National Team Home | USA Baseball

roster..and 2 of the guys ..i ..wanted for the mariners were on that team..which means..they will stay in school...and who are...dylan beavers..CF /RF of cal..and brooks lee ss..of cal poly
now..i knew i rated them highly..but i did not know...anyone else did...lolol..and although..i have other..cfs..and ss..on lists i have..i was a bit zeroed in on those guys...big fat ..DARN..on that one
the other thing..that ..is messing with me is that mlb ranks..matt mclane..at #12..as a ss...but i think he is a future..2B...cuz his range is tested..in collage...and he has to work hard to compensate...that just means he is a 2B...to me...but there are a few..better 2B..guys in this draft...like connor norby..for one..but the other thing is..a lot of guys who play ss this year in collage will end up being 2B..at the next lvl.....where next years class...has many..real ss guys..that will stay ...ss... at the next lvl...hence...the dilemma...

do the mariners take mcLane..,and ..just call him a 2b..???
do they draft someone else..at #12
and what about ss..with marte,(prob )..moving up to aqua sox and
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PatrickFrick
SS
EVE461553648110429334651.310.442.458.900

likely to move to arkansas

a few draft options..a HS ss..would be ok..in the 2nd to 4th round prob
Max MuncySSThousand Oaks (CA)
is ranked at #38..a good prospect...for the 2nd round...
as is
Carson WilliamsSSTorrey Pines (CA)
or collage guy
Spencer SchwellenbachRHP/SSNebraska

ok so that is 2nd round...........but what do the mariners do in the 1st round..#12..a 2B..is ok..but McLane..is prob not the best one...and this is true..connor norby..is prob..the best 2B...
which is the dilemma..if not for the mariners...at least for me.......
with
Sam BachmanRHPMiami (OH)
ranked at 14
and
Jordan WicksLHPKansas State
at16
Anthony SolometoLHPBishop Eustace (NJ)
at 17
and
Andrew PainterRHPCalvary Christian (FL)
at 18
any of which..may prob be better values..in the end...than Mclane...to me...seems to risky....for the slot...value...but does have a nice upside....from my point of view..at 2B..
just not as ..good as norbys
 

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last night i got the news on..the..

Collegiate National Team Home | USA Baseball

roster..and 2 of the guys ..i ..wanted for the mariners were on that team..which means..they will stay in school...and who are...dylan beavers..CF /RF of cal..and brooks lee ss..of cal poly
now..i knew i rated them highly..but i did not know...anyone else did...lolol..and although..i have other..cfs..and ss..on lists i have..i was a bit zeroed in on those guys...big fat ..DARN..on that one
the other thing..that ..is messing with me is that mlb ranks..matt mclane..at #12..as a ss...but i think he is a future..2B...cuz his range is tested..in collage...and he has to work hard to compensate...that just means he is a 2B...to me...but there are a few..better 2B..guys in this draft...like connor norby..for one..but the other thing is..a lot of guys who play ss this year in collage will end up being 2B..at the next lvl.....where next years class...has many..real ss guys..that will stay ...ss... at the next lvl...hence...the dilemma...

do the mariners take mcLane..,and ..just call him a 2b..???
do they draft someone else..at #12
and what about ss..with marte,(prob )..moving up to aqua sox and
4
PatrickFrick
SS
EVE461553648110429334651.310.442.458.900

likely to move to arkansas

a few draft options..a HS ss..would be ok..in the 2nd to 4th round prob
Max MuncySSThousand Oaks (CA)
is ranked at #38..a good prospect...for the 2nd round...
as is
Carson WilliamsSSTorrey Pines (CA)
or collage guy
Spencer SchwellenbachRHP/SSNebraska

ok so that is 2nd round...........but what do the mariners do in the 1st round..#12..a 2B..is ok..but McLane..is prob not the best one...and this is true..connor norby..is prob..the best 2B...
which is the dilemma..if not for the mariners...at least for me.......
with
Sam BachmanRHPMiami (OH)
ranked at 14
and
Jordan WicksLHPKansas State
at16
Anthony SolometoLHPBishop Eustace (NJ)
at 17
and
Andrew PainterRHPCalvary Christian (FL)
at 18
any of which..may prob be better values..in the end...than Mclane...to me...seems to risky....for the slot...value...but does have a nice upside....from my point of view..at 2B..
just not as ..good as norbys
So who is your final guess on who the M's pick?
 

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my pick is not..Mclane or ford..but ..a guy who is worth the slot..value...to the mariners as an organization...as trade value or keep value...is the same to me..but high value..for sure
that said i will try to make a pick...but i would rather say...if..or if..or if..lol
like..will the mariners reach...like for
Jordan WicksLHP
yeah they could ..and it is not much of a reach
or if someone is falling to them..would they grab that guy..and that is the scenario..where i would say..yes..on all the guys above sal frelick
cuz i value hamilton and
more than frelick..and would make trimble or norby..1st rounders ..but yeah i kind of understand why they are not..but they should be close...

but ok....i would by the mlb..structure..choose..gunner hoglund...value pick..for the future...norby or trimble
Anthony SolometoLHPBishop Eustace (NJ)
or
Andrew PainterRHPCalvary Christian (FL)
 

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while totally interested..in
Max MuncySSThousand Oaks (CA)
ranked at 38.th..i dont think the mariners will reach that far..unless they believe in him...and that he will stay at ss

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but the mariners could take care of there ss..prob in the 2nd round without to much of a reach...in..
Spencer SchwellenbachRHP/SSNebraska
or
Max MuncySSThousand Oaks (CA)
if he falls ..a bit..to 48h
 
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my ss collage list now that brock lee will stay in school
Bennett HostetlerNorth Dakota StateSS.394.513.6061.1196121352841311058193638192
Collin BurnsTulaneSS.353.410.571.98155238558420485061942205
Brad MalmAlbanySS.345.415.546.9614717435602114394213751
would like to get one of the guys up here..or a hs guy
Tommy BellOld DominionSS.343.421.554.9756020447709584918133825
Drew SwiftArizona StateSS.314.380.475.8555422342701046384235063
Matt RichardsonUtahSS.360.451.489.9404413933501012287162453
Cody JefferisSan DiegoSS.341.417.434.8514517336591111328192362
with a bit of a gap here
Ernie YakeGonzagaSS.333.423.433.8564217138571401296221562
Benjamin SemsMichiganSS.314.389.479.868461694153816303193042
Kole KalerHawaiiSS.314.376.435.81150207396513322231842156
Collin WolfCampbellSS.291.387.460.84755213526213175363138120
home town guy..a good defenceive..ss
Jose TorresNC StateSS.289.343.533.87652197315712310444133951

this list is nothing compared to next year...which will be twice as many.........better prospects
 

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my position..gota get list...
arkansas..or aqua sox..to start.2B...which would mean
Connor Norby2BEast Carolina
prob..or
Tyler Black2BWright State
..to excel..to arkansas...before
KadenPolcovich
2B
EVE4617641441218373553103.250.385.466.851
can...and he will...sometime next year prob..if not this.....

at aqua sox
cf..so jack larson can move up
5
PatrickFrick
SS
EVE461553648110429334651.310.442.458.900
6
ZachDeLoach
RF
EVE471984460192524255263.303.392.495.887
frick is only waiting..for marte..to show up...deloach..could break out in the 2nd half..if he does..they will send him to arkansas..so..
we will put
1B
CF
LF
at aqua sox
and these 3 guys could be ready for AA..by next spring as well
5
CarterBins
C
EVE37138384080729295013.290.421.500.921
6
AustinShenton
3B
EVE481874554202743355010.289.412.529.942
7
DavidSheaffer
C
EVE13526154101021310.288.304.404.707
but they may have the guys to cover..these guys move ups

so at modesto
with marte waiting to move up..they will need a ss...or 2
1b
cf/LF
RF
ss==2
catcher....or 2..maybe 1
so all in all not including pitchers
2B
2... SS
2..1B
2...cf
2..LF..1 to cover deloach...if he moves up...or maybe not...that is ???
or i will just go
rf..for one guy.....lol...Spencer Packard..as long as im getting one...lolololol..and can play 1B as well..so that would be minus one 1st base at..modesto..or..not..
at least
1 catcher
Wyatt HendrieSan Diego StateC.379.464.6331.09745169536412295711222580
is my pick on that

then AZL..idk
 
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of high interest
Dillan ShrumNevada1B.468.527.9681.495351243558151154710101911
i know the mariners like
JT SchwartzUCLA1B.396.514.6281.1424416444651218458372810
who can play 3b as well
Ruben IbarraSan Jose State1B.381.503.8501.3533511330439114324282400
for 1b guys
2b guys
Connor NorbyEast Carolina2B.415.484.6591.1436124664102150155123334184
collage hits leader..with 102
Jackson GlennDallas Baptist2B.361.429.7171.14658233618419220531303313
collage hr leader...with least strike outs..tied at 8,9,and 10...in hrs..with 20
Matt McLainUCLASS.333.434.5791.0134718347611429363343491

of lower interest
Joshua ZamoraNevada2B.290.399.580.979421623847721226525260
Conor McKennaOklahoma2B.312.402.558.96054199436211112492304820

cf
Reed TrimbleSouthern MissCF.345.414.6381.0525923559811421772111946122
collage..rbis ......leader..with 72
Quincy HamiltonWright StateCF.374.535.7711.306481797867184156565632203
2nd in collage in ...obp......7th in slg..3rd in ops...15 hrs..does not strike out...much
Corey RosierUNC GreensboroCF.354.434.6041.03852212597594125182528176
Parker BatesLouisiana TechCF.346.471.5831.054622286479134116214432611
lower lvl
Albert ChoiNew Jersey TechCF.311.389.515.90451196436112563681736271
Dan RyanFairfieldCF.335.422.538.9604315838531026273232473
John ThrasherHartfordCF.369.470.6801.150361223745113723101521373
low lvl..but high stolen bases
Denzel ClarkeCal State NorthridgeCF.324.445.5701.01538142304611082552640152
but high on prospects list..and for mlb...canadian...CF/RF

Spencer PackardCampbellRF.371.488.6291.117551975373180116718322421
also plays 1B...4th in rbis..in collage

Kevin GrahamOle MissLF.342.422.562.98467260588915014568313621
River TownDallas BaptistRF.323.433.515.9485822960741401051143135203
Ben NormanIowaCF.306.421.6121.033441703652144105392741121
more as a lf guy..but hey..cf will work as well

Wyatt HendrieSan Diego StateC.379.464.6331.09745169536412295711222580
Andy ThomasBaylorC.337.411.575.98651193466511111603242910

one of the fastest guys in collage baseball
John ThrasherHartfordCF.369.470.6801.150361223745113723101521373
Braiden WardWashingtonCF.285.374.378.75250193345582214161242344
4th in stolen bases
ill take a chance...on ward...also plays...SS..and with not many...this year...its a good time in the lower rounds
 

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Bennett HostetlerNorth Dakota StateSS.394.513.6061.1196121352841311058193638192
Brad MalmAlbanySS.345.415.546.9614717435602114394213751
Collin WolfCampbellSS.291.387.460.84755213526213175363138120

3b
Brett HarrisGonzaga3B.350.482.5351.01753200537017164325292676
Austin KnightCharlotte3B.342.398.6151.013602345980291116381549130
Tyler BosettiNevada3B.328.387.6411.02845195466422311477133931
Andrew KachelFresno State3B.328.422.6091.03145174405712211385242921
Adam LopezSan Diego3B.314.418.471.88939140234410043716111120
well that is about half of my list
time to start next years...lolol
 

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some other guys to look at..high rbi guys...over 50 strike outs omited
Nathan ChurchUC IrvineRF.369.424.5831.00761271621002486615233475
also high in doubles...6th....1st in triples..with 8
Phillip SikesTCURF.329.427.6201.0475821356701951163132645131
Matthew ChristianCampbell1B.350.400.6851.085502004570152166571342115
Tyler LocklearVCU3B.345.515.6861.201541946967123166622464084
Tanner AllenMississippi StateRF.383.456.6211.07767261721001951166162335113
Rowdey JordanMississippi StateCF.323.417.546.963682697487224104517294391

hrs..slg
Griffin DoerschingNorthern Kentucky1B.316.488.7721.26048158475012020483503421
obp..slg...hrs
Chris MeyersToledo1B.378.509.7391.2485418050681811555103942104
ave...4th
Kyler CastilloNew MexicoLF.439.486.6651.1513816440721607404121155
 

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while andrew kickel..did not have good defence numbers at 3B...he plays 2B and 3B


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5Higgins, Ryan.3521.12045-4416545581331141110.667294381.453304-7
11Kachel, Andrew.3281.03145-4517440571221138106.609245294.422112-3
the 2 biggest prospects for fresno...kachel...is a sophmore..with much bigger upside...but needs to work on defence..with a 940 fld
Kachel, A. 21 HS

11ANDREW KACHEL​

  • POSITION Infield
  • HEIGHT 6-0
  • WEIGHT 170
  • CLASS Sophomore
  • HOMETOWN Gilroy, Calif.
  • HIGH SCHOOL Christopher HS
2021 (Sophomore): Earned First Team All-Mountain West honors ... started all 45 games for the Bulldogs ... made 31 starts at third base and 14 at second ... led the 'Dogs with 174 at-bats ... ranked second on the team & hit .328 from the dish ... ranked second on the club & tied for 16th in the MW with 57 hits ... combined for 25 extra-base knocks ... tied for fifth in the MW with 11 home runs ... totaled 12 doubles to sit second on the club ... scored 40 runs to tie for 13th in the MW ... ranked 13th in the MW with 38 RBI ... totaled 106 bases ... slugged .609 with a .422 on-base percentage ... posted a .940 fielding percentage ... totaled a team-leading 19 multi-hit games ... collected 11 multi-RBI contests ... swiped two bases ... drew 24 walks ... was hit by five pitches ... recorded a season-high three hits in three games, at San Francisco (March 2), at New Mexico-G1 & G2 (May 1) ... scored a season-high three runs in three contests ... drove in three RBIs in five games ... drove in two doubles at Nevada-G1 (March 20) ... homered in 11 games.
 

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Gavin
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RHP, East Carolina

#31..on mlbs list

Bio

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so..what mlb is telling me here...is that cusick..is better...than williams...i do not think so....... with 45 control..he will hit a lot of batters.....williams control 50...cusick and williams fast ball..is 70..for both..that is good..curveball same slider..same..williams change is a bit better....with that and control..williams has to be the better pitcher...
and a worthy 1st rounder

Ryan
Cusick
RHP, Wake Forest
#26th on mlb list

Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)​

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  • SLIDER
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  • CHANGEUP
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so i would say..williams has to be on ..the 1st round list..and cusick..go off
Gavin WilliamsEast Carolina1011.88151211181.157181721130810.193
 
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which...would give me what i want...a choice...of
Gavin WilliamsEast Carolina1011.88151211181.157181721130810.193
Andrew PainterRHPCalvary Christian (FL)--186' 7" / 215 lbsRR
Anthony SolometoLHPBishop Eustace (NJ)--186' 5" / 218 lbsLL
Gunnar HoglundRHPMississippi--216' 4" / 220 lbsLR
Jordan WicksLHPKansas State--216' 3" / 220 lbsLL
for pitchers in the 1st round

and
Michael McGreevyUC Santa Barbara922.921616110101.2109413311115410.274
i do not see in the 1st round either...cuz he is 4th in collage baseball..in hits..with 109..even though he has..115 strike outs
 

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mariners need a 2b at mlb...as well as arkansas
DylanMoore
2B..will not cut it ...so far,,and shed long..is a better hitter..so far...
but moore is seattle's utility guy..so they don't really want to get rid of him
the free agent market..is not all that good for 2B next year
with
Chris Taylor2B31RRLAD$7,800,000-
the high choice
there are some ss..but that is not the need......
so ya either trade for one...or draft one...which..for this..
would be
norby..or glenn
prob norby..in 1st round
glenn either..2nd or 3rd round
 

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so the argument..is..drafting a 2b..will not give you that 2b..for a least 2 years...yes that is true......

but

if you trade for one...how long is that one going to last...

if you get taylor..that is if....cuz he is from virginia...not california.......

 

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12JORDAN COZART​

fld 986..................
  • POSITION Infield/Pitcher
  • HEIGHT 6-0
  • WEIGHT 180
  • CLASS Senior
  • HOMETOWN Evansville, Ind.
  • HIGHSCHOOL Evansville Central HS
  • PREV SCHOOL Olney Central College
  • also ..a good 2B
  • almost as good as glenn
Jackson GlennDallas Baptist2B.361.429.7171.146582336184192205313033130
Jordan CozartMurray State2B.317.401.6481.04957227557218019594294510
Connor NorbyEast Carolina2B.415.484.6591.1436124664102150155123334184

are freshman
Jace JungTexas Tech2B.337.462.6971.15956208557010121673494542
Carter TriceOld Dominion2B.355.426.6321.05858234578317314542286282
 
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Trey SweeneyEastern IllinoisSS.382.522.7121.23448170526510214587462432
but i think you have to put this guy..on that list..as..well..as a mcmahan..type..2B/3b..with a 975..fld..glenn has a 960..
and a maybe move back to 3B
and norby has a 964..so on defence...cozart seems best

Tyler BlackWright State2B.383.496.6831.179481836470141135963925111
a 968..so..

and those are most of the guys who should be in the conversation

which if those other guys will work....
then maybe drafting
Reed TrimbleSouthern MissCF.345.414.6381.0525923559811421772111946122
at #12..would be better...???
 
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