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Game Thread: Lions vs Cowgirls

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Robinson is very disappointing. Guys spends most of the day playing pattycake with offensive lineman. Zeke had some massive holes to run through.
 

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Robinson is very disappointing. Guys spends most of the day playing pattycake with offensive lineman. Zeke had some massive holes to run through.
He looks like a lazy player in practice.

Doesn't even try to beat his man. Just stands there, sorta pushing back.


I did see him think about pursuing downfield on one play. He missed and Davis got the tackle. Which was ironic. It's brutal how little talent there is on defense.
 

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He looks like a lazy player in practice.

Doesn't even try to beat his man. Just stands there, sorta pushing back.


I did see him think about pursuing downfield on one play. He missed and Davis got the tackle. Which was ironic. It's brutal how little talent there is on defense.

Thats why we kept Ngata around so he could learn from the best
 

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He looks like a lazy player in practice.

Doesn't even try to beat his man. Just stands there, sorta pushing back.


I did see him think about pursuing downfield on one play. He missed and Davis got the tackle. Which was ironic. It's brutal how little talent there is on defense.

Our secondary is still very good. The front seven blows, especially the line. Sylvester Williams is the only one that even tries. Hyder and Ziggy both out. I wish we had let him walk and saved the 15 mil. COuld have gotten 2 decent healthy lineman for that.
 

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Our secondary is still very good. The front seven blows, especially the line. Sylvester Williams is the only one that even tries. Hyder and Ziggy both out. I wish we had let him walk and saved the 15 mil. COuld have gotten 2 decent healthy lineman for that.

As we saw with the Ebron deal, just because they save money getting rid of a player does not mean they will spend it on a replacement.
 

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Our secondary is still very good. The front seven blows, especially the line. Sylvester Williams is the only one that even tries. Hyder and Ziggy both out. I wish we had let him walk and saved the 15 mil. COuld have gotten 2 decent healthy lineman for that.

Every fan on this board knew the running game and the DL was the biggest areas of weakness on this team. Not sure how Quinn couldn't see how this DL didn't need more fresh bodies ad talent. Maybe Patricia wanted to see how this current group of guys fit in his 3-4 system. There should be major turnover next off-season.
 

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Every fan on this board knew the running game and the DL was the biggest areas of weakness on this team. Not sure how Quinn couldn't see how this DL didn't need more fresh bodies ad talent. Maybe Patricia wanted to see how this current group of guys fit in his 3-4 system. There should be major turnover next off-season.

Agreed. I think just Hand and Williams stay. Should see 3 new guys next year. We will probably see new LBs next year too. I think Davis is better in a 3-4 as an ILB. He is just not smart enough to be a true MLB.
 

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Agreed. I think just Hand and Williams stay. Should see 3 new guys next year. We will probably see new LBs next year too. I think Davis is better in a 3-4 as an ILB. He is just not smart enough to be a true MLB.

I saw numerous analysts say he is better suited as a run and chase WLB like L. David. That Kennard guy looks pretty impressive so far. Might as well run him over to MLB and see what he can do.
 

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I saw numerous analysts say he is better suited as a run and chase WLB like L. David. That Kennard guy looks pretty impressive so far. Might as well run him over to MLB and see what he can do.

I had the same thought too if we stay 4-3. I hope we just go 3-4.
 

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I had the same thought too if we stay 4-3. I hope we just go 3-4.


Honestly, I don't give two shits if it is 3-4 or 4-3. Just want them to be able to get stops when needed. We needed one big stop yesterday and it flat out didn't happen.

This defense is getting roasted by Dak (who sucked this year so far), Darnold (who sucked outside playing us this year), Garapollo (who I think is over rated by the media).

We still have Rodgers twice, R.Wilson, K.Cousins twice, Cam Newton and Goff still.
 

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Honestly, I don't give two shits if it is 3-4 or 4-3. Just want them to be able to get stops when needed. We needed one big stop yesterday and it flat out didn't happen.

This defense is getting roasted by Dak (who sucked this year so far), Darnold (who sucked outside playing us this year), Garapollo (who I think is over rated by the media).

We still have Rodgers twice, R.Wilson, K.Cousins twice, Cam Newton and Goff still.

I am not worried about QBs as much as RBs. We have one of the top Pass defenses in the league.
 

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Our secondary is still very good. The front seven blows, especially the line. Sylvester Williams is the only one that even tries. Hyder and Ziggy both out. I wish we had let him walk and saved the 15 mil. COuld have gotten 2 decent healthy lineman for that.
Quinn wouldn't have, anyway.
 

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I am not worried about QBs as much as RBs. We have one of the top Pass defenses in the league.

And yet Prescott, who hadn't had a 200-yard passing game since Week 15 last year, threw for 255 against us. I counted on Elliott getting his yards, but thought we could contain the passing game better yesterday.
 

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And yet Prescott, who hadn't had a 200-yard passing game since Week 15 last year, threw for 255 against us. I counted on Elliott getting his yards, but thought we could contain the passing game better yesterday.

255 is still not much these days. It is average (See below). It was Elliot that did the damage on 1 play. Also not taking Agnew off of Beasly until the 4th quarter was a coaching/matchup issue that should have been rectified early.

We are still 2nd in the league.

NFL Team Passing Defense Statistics - 2018

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Net Passing Yards Per Game Leaders
RK TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK YDSL RATE YDS/G
1 Jacksonville 127 77 60.6 657 5.8 42 3 1 10 76 81.3 164
2 Detroit 100 65 65.0 687 7.9 41 7 2 13 105 104.3 172
3 Washington 110 68 61.8 562 5.4 64 4 3 7 35 77.0 187
4 Baltimore 156 84 53.8 773 5.3 38 5 4 10 56 69.1 193
5 Seattle 134 84 62.7 817 6.5 43 7 7 9 60 77.2 204
6 Dallas 126 90 71.4 834 7.5 52 5 0 14 105 105.9 209
7 Green Bay 136 86 63.2 874 7.1 75 6 4 13 93 86.9 219
8 New England 140 88 62.9 905 6.8 61 8 4 6 44 89.9 226
9 NY Giants 132 77 58.3 915 7.2 64 4 2 5 33 84.4 229
10 Chicago 137 88 64.2 922 7.5 75 8 8 18 109 82.1 231
11 Arizona 123 88 71.5 943 8.1 57 3 2 10 58 97.0 236
12 Tennessee 144 96 66.7 971 7.2 75 6 3 12 72 93.0 243
13 Carolina 103 71 68.9 740 7.7 49 4 5 8 54 84.4 247
14 NY Jets 150 96 64.0 989 7.2 67 5 6 10 87 79.7 247
15 LA Rams 147 100 68.0 990 7.1 45 5 4 8 51 88.3 248
16 Denver 105 73 69.5 788 8.2 66 5 2 9 75 102.2 263
17 Buffalo 160 111 69.4 1052 6.9 43 8 2 10 58 100.3 263
18 Oakland 133 76 57.1 1053 8.2 74 8 3 5 38 94.5 263
19 Indianapolis 153 108 70.6 1072 7.6 38 5 3 17 93 95.4 268
20 Philadelphia 160 103 64.4 1086 7.3 75 7 3 11 75 92.7 272
21 LA Chargers 133 85 63.9 1103 8.7 82 10 5 8 50 100.9 276
22 San Francisco 166 103 62.0 1105 7.0 67 11 1 8 50 102.4 276
23 Minnesota 131 86 65.6 1110 9.2 70 8 3 11 93 105.9 278
24 Cleveland 165 101 61.2 1113 7.2 67 7 7 12 71 79.5 278
25 Atlanta 170 120 70.6 1136 7.1 51 9 3 8 64 100.6 284
26 Miami 153 95 62.1 1139 7.7 66 5 9 6 34 72.2 285
27 Houston 152 106 69.7 1152 8.1 66 11 1 11 77 115.3 288
28 Cincinnati 171 115 67.3 1214 7.4 49 9 3 10 50 99.2 304
29 Pittsburgh 160 96 60.0 1219 8.1 71 12 4 13 78 100.4 305
30 New Orleans 134 100 74.6 1244 9.6 75 11 1 9 48 128.7 311
31 Tampa Bay 157 121 77.1 1432 9.4 75 13 1 8 48 130.5 358
32 Kansas City 141 93 66.0 1088 8.0 46 8 1 6 39 106.3 363
 

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255 is still not much these days. It is average (See below). It was Elliot that did the damage on 1 play. Also not taking Agnew off of Beasly until the 4th quarter was a coaching/matchup issue that should have been rectified early.

We are still 2nd in the league.

Understood. My point is, while it is average for the league, it is above average for Prescott and the Cowboys.

Really, two fairly long passes to Elliott made the final number look better. If we had an LB that could cover a back.....
 

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How many LBs are going to be able to stay with Elliot ? That was just a great call and Dak didn't blow the throw. Dallas at home desperately needed a W and it took a last second FG to win. I can't be too upset about yesterday's game. With the holes everyone here knows about, this team wasn't going to challenge for a title anyway.
 

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I think every Lions fan in Michigan and around the world called that final FG drive.

As usual, the Lions do just enough bad things to lose.
All the faith in the world in that situation for Staff.


Almost none once they kickoff with over a minute.
 

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255 is still not much these days. It is average (See below). It was Elliot that did the damage on 1 play. Also not taking Agnew off of Beasly until the 4th quarter was a coaching/matchup issue that should have been rectified early.

We are still 2nd in the league.

NFL Team Passing Defense Statistics - 2018

Statistics: Total | Downs | Passing | Rushing | Receiving | Returning | Kicking | Punting | Defense | Give/Take
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RK TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK YDSL RATE YDS/G
1 Jacksonville 127 77 60.6 657 5.8 42 3 1 10 76 81.3 164
2 Detroit 100 65 65.0 687 7.9 41 7 2 13 105 104.3 172
3 Washington 110 68 61.8 562 5.4 64 4 3 7 35 77.0 187
4 Baltimore 156 84 53.8 773 5.3 38 5 4 10 56 69.1 193
5 Seattle 134 84 62.7 817 6.5 43 7 7 9 60 77.2 204
6 Dallas 126 90 71.4 834 7.5 52 5 0 14 105 105.9 209
7 Green Bay 136 86 63.2 874 7.1 75 6 4 13 93 86.9 219
8 New England 140 88 62.9 905 6.8 61 8 4 6 44 89.9 226
9 NY Giants 132 77 58.3 915 7.2 64 4 2 5 33 84.4 229
10 Chicago 137 88 64.2 922 7.5 75 8 8 18 109 82.1 231
11 Arizona 123 88 71.5 943 8.1 57 3 2 10 58 97.0 236
12 Tennessee 144 96 66.7 971 7.2 75 6 3 12 72 93.0 243
13 Carolina 103 71 68.9 740 7.7 49 4 5 8 54 84.4 247
14 NY Jets 150 96 64.0 989 7.2 67 5 6 10 87 79.7 247
15 LA Rams 147 100 68.0 990 7.1 45 5 4 8 51 88.3 248
16 Denver 105 73 69.5 788 8.2 66 5 2 9 75 102.2 263
17 Buffalo 160 111 69.4 1052 6.9 43 8 2 10 58 100.3 263
18 Oakland 133 76 57.1 1053 8.2 74 8 3 5 38 94.5 263
19 Indianapolis 153 108 70.6 1072 7.6 38 5 3 17 93 95.4 268
20 Philadelphia 160 103 64.4 1086 7.3 75 7 3 11 75 92.7 272
21 LA Chargers 133 85 63.9 1103 8.7 82 10 5 8 50 100.9 276
22 San Francisco 166 103 62.0 1105 7.0 67 11 1 8 50 102.4 276
23 Minnesota 131 86 65.6 1110 9.2 70 8 3 11 93 105.9 278
24 Cleveland 165 101 61.2 1113 7.2 67 7 7 12 71 79.5 278
25 Atlanta 170 120 70.6 1136 7.1 51 9 3 8 64 100.6 284
26 Miami 153 95 62.1 1139 7.7 66 5 9 6 34 72.2 285
27 Houston 152 106 69.7 1152 8.1 66 11 1 11 77 115.3 288
28 Cincinnati 171 115 67.3 1214 7.4 49 9 3 10 50 99.2 304
29 Pittsburgh 160 96 60.0 1219 8.1 71 12 4 13 78 100.4 305
30 New Orleans 134 100 74.6 1244 9.6 75 11 1 9 48 128.7 311
31 Tampa Bay 157 121 77.1 1432 9.4 75 13 1 8 48 130.5 358
32 Kansas City 141 93 66.0 1088 8.0 46 8 1 6 39 106.3 363


Tied right in the middle of the pack in the only category that matters. 7 passing TDs allowed. Pass numbers are a little deceiving I think, why pass when you can run at will??? 4 things can happen when you pass, 3 are bad(Incomplete, Sack or INT).
 
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