Let's talk Harrison Barnes

[clyde_carbon]

What does bringing in Kerr, specifically, do to Barnes' development? Thoughts on his future?

 

[msgkings322]

Since no one has any idea what to expect from Kerr, how he's going to run things, etc there's no possible way to answer the first question.

As to the second, my guess is he will be packaged in a trade to upgrade something, probably with D Lee.

 

[_so_money_]

Kerr has stated very clearly he is all about ball movement and spacing, and he's also said he absolutely hates, hates, hates isos. It's no guarantee, but those things sound great for Barnes' game. Whether he'd use Barnes at the stretch-4 position, we don't know, but Draymond Green has largely taken over that role when required anyway.

 

[TobyTyler]

What does bringing in Kerr, specifically, do to Barnes' development? Thoughts on his future?

Not a clue. I don't know what Kerr's philosophy is or what he has planned for Barnes. Way too early for this discussion.

 

[sjballer03]

As long as it's not always Barnes + 4 bench players on the floor, I'm okay with whatever Kerr does with him.

 

[koblix]

If you need an autograph from HB

Harrison Barnes of Golden State Warriors implements free-autograph policy for offseason - ESPN

Golden State Warriors forward Harrison Barnes promises to fill his offseason with staying in shape, playing video games and signing autographs.

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Warriors forward Harrison Barnes has implemented an autograph policy for the offseason.
Barnes announced on his Facebook page on Friday that he is implementing an autograph policy that will allow his fans to get his signature, free of charge, in the offseason.

"Since I get so many requests for autographs, I bought a P.O. Box for all of you to send items for me to sign," Barnes wrote.

"I'm really excited to sign for everyone who's ever asked me for an autograph. I appreciate all the messages and replies I get on social media. This is my thank you to all of you and a token of my appreciation for not only supporting me as a player but as a person as well."

Barnes wrote that in order for fans to qualify for an autograph, they must write a handwritten letter explaining why they want an item signed and send a photo of them holding the item.

Fans, who are permitted only one autograph per person, also must include a self-addressed, stamped envelope for Barnes to return the item.

"My time is limited because of daily workouts, 'Games of Thrones,' 'House of Cards,' and video games," Barnes wrote. "Items will be sent back as soon as possible."

 

[clyde_carbon]

"There will definitely be triangle elements. With the rule changes and this roster, I think it’s important to run and get shots early. I think it would be crazy to take screen-and-roll away from Steph Curry, and there’s not a lot of screen-and-roll in the triangle. We’re not going to be looking at the90s Chicago Bulls. I really want to take advantage of the passing abilities of (Andrew) Bogut and (David) Lee. I really want to utilize everybody skills in playing with tempo, flow and rhythm.”

That’s going to take a top-notch assistant coaching staff, right?: “Yeah, I’ve given it a lot of thought. Bob has a lot of ideas, as well. We’re going to take our time and collaborate on that. I know that’s maybe the key for this whole thing for me. I’ve got to make sure I’ve got the best staff I can possibly hire. I’ve got a lot of names and ideas, but Bob and I are going to put our heads together and make sure we do it right.”

Steve Kerr: ?I?m joining a company on the rise? - Golden State Warriors

 

[clyde_carbon]

As long as it's not always Barnes + 4 bench players on the floor, I'm okay with whatever Kerr does with him.

Agreed.

 

[CitySushi]

Kerr has said that his main principles will be ball movement and also weakside movement. If this is true, HB could have a monster break out year. I know we were all excited for improvement this past year, but HB many times was put in a terrible position.

HB's strong suits are his athleticism and his ability to finish at the basket. He's not an isolation player. If Kerr is able to implement a movement based system, HB could be a beast. Coming off the weakside, flashing to the middle, and getting HB in situations where his defender has to rush at him instead of him facing up would all lead towards his strengths.

 

[Yoshi]

Since no one has any idea what to expect from Kerr, how he's going to run things, etc there's no possible way to answer the first question.

As to the second, my guess is he will be packaged in a trade to upgrade something, probably with D Lee.

Agree with this to a certain extent. Can't really say what to expect given the fact that Lacob and co once again hire a coach without any prior NBA experience.

I know that there have been rumors floating around with the K Love situation, but in my mind I actually expect the warriors to not deal Barnes this offseason. If anything, a package of Lee/Thompson seems more likely considering Klays development into an all around player. I can see the Dubbs holding onto Barnes for this season and assessing him before any move takes place.

 

[southernfriedwarrior]

Agree with this to a certain extent. Can't really say what to expect given the fact that Lacob and co once again hire a coach without any prior NBA experience.

I know that there have been rumors floating around with the K Love situation, but in my mind I actually expect the warriors to not deal Barnes this offseason. If anything, a package of Lee/Thompson seems more likely considering Klays development into an all around player. I can see the Dubbs holding onto Barnes for this season and assessing him before any move takes place.

The Warriors would never give up Klay Thompson in favor of keeping Barnes in any trade if that's what you're saying. Thompson is legitimate top tier 2 guard, whereas Barnes is still struggling to find his way in the NBA in many respects. That may not entirely be his fault, but that's the current reality.

 

[Yoshi]

The Warriors would never give up Klay Thompson in favor of keeping Barnes in any trade if that's what you're saying. Thompson is legitimate top tier 2 guard, whereas Barnes is still struggling to find his way in the NBA in many respects. That may not entirely be his fault, but that's the current reality.

If you read my post on the other thread, you'd see that I'd prefer the Dubbs to trade Barnes and Lee and someone else or a pick and hold onto Klay. I know most of us would be in favor of that, but the only thing is that the "most of us" are not the Minnesota GM, who would probably want to start a package involving Klay Thompson.

I think Barnes thus far is limited in his offensive game. Granted, he took a backseat into the Warriors starting roster and to his development due to the lack of minutes since Iggy's arrival. However, for a 3 his shooting isn't the greatest and his ball handling needs works. I also don't think he's an iso player although time will tell.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

You guys should just trade Barnes to the Pistons!!

 

[southernfriedwarrior]

I know most of us would be in favor of that, but the only thing is that the "most of us" are not the Minnesota GM, who would probably want to start a package involving Klay Thompson. QUOTE]

Kevin Love is in the driver's seat, not Minnesota's GM, who has almost no leverage considering that Love will be a FA in one year. Love can basically veto any deal he doesn't like, by threatening not to resign with that team. What team is going to give up major assests to rent a player for one year? Minnesota may have to take what they can get, particularly if Love makes it clear that there are only a couple of teams he'll re-sign with.

 

[Yoshi]

I know most of us would be in favor of that, but the only thing is that the "most of us" are not the Minnesota GM, who would probably want to start a package involving Klay Thompson. QUOTE]

Kevin Love is in the driver's seat, not Minnesota's GM, who has almost no leverage considering that Love will be a FA in one year. Love can basically veto any deal he doesn't like, by threatening not to resign with that team. What team is going to give up major assests to rent a player for one year? Minnesota may have to take what they can get, particularly if Love makes it clear that there are only a couple of teams he'll re-sign with.

Umm if you're paying attention right now the Dubbs look to be sending Klay off which is what i stated when i did back then.

 

[southernfriedwarrior]

Unfortunately for the Warriors, neither Kevin Love or his agent seem to have any interest in using their leverage to help out any team acquiring him. With his help, Warriors might've been able to acquire him without giving up Klay. Since Love and his agent have encouraged a free market bidding contest his price has gone up. I won't get Kevin Love paid any better, but it will cost the team that acquires him max assets to pull off a trade, since they are in competition with multiple teams. If Love and his agent were smart they would've cooked up a deal with a team like Riley did with the big three in Miami. It will be interesting if it does happen to see if Love/Martin is really an improvement over Lee/Thompson. It's certainly the kind of splash they probably feel they need to make after firing a very successful coach in MJ.

 

[Yoshi]

Unfortunately for the Warriors, neither Kevin Love or his agent seem to have any interest in using their leverage to help out any team acquiring him. With his help, Warriors might've been able to acquire him without giving up Klay. Since Love and his agent have encouraged a free market bidding contest his price has gone up. I won't get Kevin Love paid any better, but it will cost the team that acquires him max assets to pull off a trade, since they are in competition with multiple teams. If Love and his agent were smart they would've cooked up a deal with a team like Riley did with the big three in Miami. It will be interesting if it does happen to see if Love/Martin is really an improvement over Lee/Thompson. It's certainly the kind of splash they probably feel they need to make after firing a very successful coach in MJ.

Is the combo of Riley and Love better than Lee/Thompson? From a scoring perspective yes and perhaps rebounding as well. Where it hurts for the Warriors is on the defensive end and possibly a chemistry issue. Iggy is a first team defender but IMO Klay is the best defensive player on this team after Bogut. With a backcourt of Martin and Curry, the Dubbs will have nightmares trying to cover some of the elite PG's in the West.

Also, it doesn't baffle me that Love's agent would want to assist the dubbs - why would he? The agent's focus is to get the best deal for his client and with more suitors, the better the deal. Yes, it would be better for the W's to trade off Barnes instead of Klay, but with more suitors the more competitive your offer should be.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Is the combo of Riley and Love better than Lee/Thompson? From a scoring perspective yes and perhaps rebounding as well. Where it hurts for the Warriors is on the defensive end and possibly a chemistry issue. Iggy is a first team defender but IMO Klay is the best defensive player on this team after Bogut. With a backcourt of Martin and Curry, the Dubbs will have nightmares trying to cover some of the elite PG's in the West.

Also, it doesn't baffle me that Love's agent would want to assist the dubbs - why would he? The agent's focus is to get the best deal for his client and with more suitors, the better the deal. Yes, it would be better for the W's to trade off Barnes instead of Klay, but with more suitors the more competitive your offer should be.

Iggy moves to the 2 most likely helping the back court out defensively. Barnes would start at 3 who's becoming a solid defender himself and still young and improving. With a lineup of Curry, Iggy, Barnes, Love, and Bogut we should be fine defensively, even with Love's deficiencies on that end.

 

[tzill]

Iggy moves to the 2 most likely helping the back court out defensively. Barnes would start at 3 who's becoming a solid defender himself and still young and improving. With a lineup of Curry, Iggy, Barnes, Love, and Bogut we should be fine defensively, even with Love's deficiencies on that end.

I dunno...that depends upon Iggy being solid physically.

 

[Yoshi]

Iggy moves to the 2 most likely helping the back court out defensively. Barnes would start at 3 who's becoming a solid defender himself and still young and improving. With a lineup of Curry, Iggy, Barnes, Love, and Bogut we should be fine defensively, even with Love's deficiencies on that end.

Barnes struggled big time last year. Granted, he took a back seat and had a sophomore slump, but he's got a lot to work to do. He was good on defense at times, but had issues on defense as well. He could still improve in this league, but there's a reason why there's an impasse on this trade involving Klay and Love from certain members of the Warriors' front office and why I've stated in other posts that I'd rather trade HB over Klay.

I also think you're wrong in that we'll be "fine defensively". First off, you're talking about a center in Bogut who won't give you 82 games a year. Second, if Klay goes, who's gonna guard the opposing PG of the team because Curry can't. I also don't think Barnes can hang with the elite PG's of this league. Perhaps Iggy can but I don't know. When you have CP3, Westbrook, Parker, Conley, and Bledsoe to name a few, it helps to have a bonafied defender to at least limit their effectiveness. No question that if you trade Klay off, you're getting weaker defensively.