KC the stats

[skinsdad62]

Cousins has made 12 starts in his career; some talent evaluators believe that it can take twice as many (or more) starts to figure out a quarterback's true identity. If Gruden sticks with Cousins, by season’s end, he'll have 25 starts on his resume. He’ll also be a free agent. At that point, an informed decision on his future can be made.

the above is what we should give him

1 Tom Brady, QB NE 96 133 72.2 1,112 8.36 52 9 0 6 119.6 371
2 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 77 116 66.4 946 8.16 45 5 2 4 98.6 315
3 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 67 89 75.3 912 10.25 59 4 2 5 113.1 304
4 Philip Rivers, QB SD 76 102 74.5 890 8.73 40 5 4 10 100.5 297
5 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 78 127 61.4 882 6.95 48 5 3 7 85.5 294
6 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 61 92 66.3 866 9.41 80 8 1 2 121.0 289
7 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 82 126 65.1 863 6.85 50 4 4 2 82.2 288
8 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 61 97 62.9 833 8.59 52 8 2 12 109.2 278
9 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 82 128 64.1 814 6.36 36 5 5 6 78.7 271
10 Carson Palmer, QB ARI 56 88 63.6 803 9.13 55 9 2 1 117.8 268
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Eli Manning, QB NYG 70 108 64.8 764 7.07 67 4 0 3 97.9 255
12 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 81 127 63.8 755 5.95 45 5 3 8 83.3 252
13 Andrew Luck, QB IND 65 116 56.0 753 6.49 48 5 7 5 65.0 251
14 Derek Carr, QB OAK 57 90 63.3 726 8.07 68 5 1 1 102.4 242
15 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 74 107 69.2 715 6.68 35 3 4 4 81.3 238
16 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 58 78 74.4 714 9.15 51 7 3 8 116.1 238
17 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB NYJ 72 116 62.1 706 6.09 43 6 5 2 78.4 235
18 Blake Bortles, QB JAX 57 106 53.8 698 6.59 59 5 3 7 78.3 233
19 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 71 101 70.3 692 6.85 32 4 2 12 94.2 231
20 Cam Newton, QB CAR 56 99 56.6 685 6.92 55 5 2 5 86.5 228

right now he sits at about avg over 3 weeks

he is close to luck and carr and is ahead of wilson and newton

i feel aside from the bad game thursday he is doing ok for us

 

[j_y19]

Cousins has made 12 starts in his career; some talent evaluators believe that it can take twice as many (or more) starts to figure out a quarterback's true identity. If Gruden sticks with Cousins, by season’s end, he'll have 25 starts on his resume. He’ll also be a free agent. At that point, an informed decision on his future can be made.

the above is what we should give him

1 Tom Brady, QB NE 96 133 72.2 1,112 8.36 52 9 0 6 119.6 371
2 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 77 116 66.4 946 8.16 45 5 2 4 98.6 315
3 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 67 89 75.3 912 10.25 59 4 2 5 113.1 304
4 Philip Rivers, QB SD 76 102 74.5 890 8.73 40 5 4 10 100.5 297
5 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 78 127 61.4 882 6.95 48 5 3 7 85.5 294
6 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 61 92 66.3 866 9.41 80 8 1 2 121.0 289
7 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 82 126 65.1 863 6.85 50 4 4 2 82.2 288
8 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 61 97 62.9 833 8.59 52 8 2 12 109.2 278
9 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 82 128 64.1 814 6.36 36 5 5 6 78.7 271
10 Carson Palmer, QB ARI 56 88 63.6 803 9.13 55 9 2 1 117.8 268
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Eli Manning, QB NYG 70 108 64.8 764 7.07 67 4 0 3 97.9 255
12 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 81 127 63.8 755 5.95 45 5 3 8 83.3 252
13 Andrew Luck, QB IND 65 116 56.0 753 6.49 48 5 7 5 65.0 251
14 Derek Carr, QB OAK 57 90 63.3 726 8.07 68 5 1 1 102.4 242
15 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 74 107 69.2 715 6.68 35 3 4 4 81.3 238
16 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 58 78 74.4 714 9.15 51 7 3 8 116.1 238
17 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB NYJ 72 116 62.1 706 6.09 43 6 5 2 78.4 235
18 Blake Bortles, QB JAX 57 106 53.8 698 6.59 59 5 3 7 78.3 233
19 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 71 101 70.3 692 6.85 32 4 2 12 94.2 231
20 Cam Newton, QB CAR 56 99 56.6 685 6.92 55 5 2 5 86.5 228

right now he sits at about avg over 3 weeks

he is close to luck and carr and is ahead of wilson and newton

i feel aside from the bad game thursday he is doing ok for us

Dad, all I can say is ouch. This hurt my eyes!

 

[martinez]

He's gotta raise that qb rating. This is sorted by yards , not as important. What sticks out is 3 tds 4 ints. Overall, to soon to judge with only 12 starts

 

[skinsdad62]

the point i was trying to make is the guy is a run of the mill starter at this point . that doesnt make him a bum and he has had about 1/2 the starts it takes to make a fair judgement

now people can see it as a lost cause early and they can be right and i will commend them on their keen eyesight but is it the right thing to do ?

there are a few standards i have that arent negotiable

one un named sources are questionable
two it take 3 years to get a feel for a draft pick
three you build the LOS then fill in the rest
four i support our qb until my guidelines are reached as well as draft picks
you build through the draft
a coach needs at least 3 years to work his program
people are accountable for their actions or lack of them

not everyone has those standards nor do they have to apply them but so you understand my frame of reference

 

[j_y19]

Here's the real point. He may turn out to be just what he is today. But what real alternative do we have? We are not going to be going to the playoffs this year. Why not be sure, just like we did with RG3, that this guy can't grow out of this. We should know by the end of this season. Going to Colt is not a real alternative. If KC turns out to be a bust, then Colt might mean one or two more wins at best case (probably not). Still not enough. And we all know that Colt isn't the answer as a starter. So why don't we have a little patience and be sure about what we really have before we throw him to the rest of the league?

 

[gkekoa]

^^^^WHAT HE SAID^^^^^^

 

[Stymietee]

Here's another metric:

NFL Total Quarterback Rating - ESPN.com - Go.com
espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/stats/expanded

 

[gkekoa]

Here's another metric:

NFL Total Quarterback Rating - ESPN.com - Go.com
espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/stats/expanded

Wow...I didn't expect to see him that high to be honest. With all the talk of doom and gloom, you would think he was in the bottom three in the league. Notice a few names below him, recent contract extensions in the mega millions, and no talk of replacing them...even though they have been starting in the league for years.

 

[j_y19]

Wow...I didn't expect to see him that high to be honest. With all the talk of doom and gloom, you would think he was in the bottom three in the league. Notice a few names below him, recent contract extensions in the mega millions, and no talk of replacing them...even though they have been starting in the league for years.

Not great, but not horrible. But he has to improve over the course of the season or we need to look elsewhere

 

[gkekoa]

Not great, but not horrible. But he has to improve over the course of the season or we need to look elsewhere

I don't think anybody believes differently than this except the ones that want to throw him out now.

 

[skinsdad62]

Here's another metric:

NFL Total Quarterback Rating - ESPN.com - Go.com
espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/stats/expanded

these stats say about the same thing i was saying . he is about avg . he is tied for 21 and is certainly in striking distance of 16 on the low end 14 on the high end

 

[Breed]

I don't want to bench of Cousins now nor do I believe that there needs to be a set limit placed on how long he should start. I think the situation is fluid.

One thing though that would lead me to pull the trigger quicker on benching Cousins would be if he continues to miss on what appeared to be to be sure TD plays. If he hits on the bomb to Jackson in the Miami game and the 2 plays to Reed in the Giants game. The Skins still might not win those games, but I think their odds of winning those games would've been upped considerably.

Plainly stated, he needs to start hitting on those plays, not missing on them.

 

[skinsdad62]

I don't want to bench of Cousins now nor do I believe that there needs to be a set limit placed on how long he should start. I think the situation is fluid.

One thing though that would lead me to pull the trigger quicker on benching Cousins would be if he continues to miss on what appeared to be to be sure TD plays. If he hits on the bomb to Jackson in the Miami game and the 2 plays to Reed in the Giants game. The Skins still might not win those games, but I think their odds of winning those games would've been upped considerably.

Plainly stated, he needs to start hitting on those plays, not missing on them.

agree that is more important then the INTs