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It's time for the NFL to contract the Browns & Raiders from the league

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Lions pretty good for a few years, but before that was 1991 since they won a playoff game and before that the 1950s.

You don't strike me as someone who can be rational and is also going to ignore facts but I'll try anyway.....Easy to explain how Berry is smart and so much better. The Browns were a disaster when Berry took over. No playoffs in nearly 20 years and no playoff wins in 25. Made it his first year with a win AND made it again a few years later. How about you name all the players on that 2023 team brought in by Dorsey who played a pivotal role. Don't include Chubb as he was out week 1.

FYI, he traded Baker and didn't just let him go. So well thought of at time all he could get for him was a 5th rounder.

Checkmate.
The Lions deserve to be contracted for wasting the careers of Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson.
 

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He definitely took a step and a half back, I won't lie. But still, I'd give him a little more time before I'd cut bait...
I'm not a fan of the new offensive coordinator they got after his first year. He has regressed. I'm not sure it's Stroud that is the problem at this point.

Bring back the system he had in his rookie year, he will flourish again AND address that O-Line. They got rid of almost all of his offensive line.
 

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no way....still time to deal him before the season. Maybe right the wrong of losing Watson and get him back in a move?

I'll see myself out.
Remember my Taiwanese friend I told you about? He said the Chiefs should make a deal for Watson...

Y'know, I've never punched him before, but I was tempted... :heh:
 

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forgot to ask, @Safety if Dorsey such a good GM why can't he get a job where he can make decisions that matter?

I guess maybe the Lions let him pick the Keurig flavors in the kitchen?
 

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forgot to ask, @Safety if Dorsey such a good GM why can't he get a job where he can make decisions that matter?

I guess maybe the Lions let him pick the Keurig flavors in the kitchen?
He definitely sucked for us. Came in with decent accolades at the time, but it didn't take long for him to essentially **** the bed...
 

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Remember my Taiwanese friend I told you about? He said the Chiefs should make a deal for Watson...

Y'know, I've never punched him before, but I was tempted... :heh:
Kind of like The Purge.

We should be given a Hall Pass to be able to throat punch the galactically stupid.
 

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Remember my Taiwanese friend I told you about? He said the Chiefs should make a deal for Watson...

Y'know, I've never punched him before, but I was tempted... :heh:
He's right...Mahomes coming off injury and even healthy was regressing some. watson about to be the next Darnold. Fleece the Browns and send him here before we figure things out?
 

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He's right...Mahomes coming off injury and even healthy was regressing some. watson about to be the next Darnold. Fleece the Browns and send him here before we figure things out?
You're lucky you're outta arm's reach...

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He definitely sucked for us. Came in with decent accolades at the time, but it didn't take long for him to essentially **** the bed...
had to be a reason kicked him to the curb and I assume was because they liked Veach a lot better.....never mind Dorsey is all about Dorsey.

Couldn't admit he was wrong about Chad Thomas and kept him over Ogbah and Nassib. Also wanted to double down on his Kitchens mistake and let him coach another season. among many other mistakes.
 

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had to be a reason kicked him to the curb and I assume was because they liked Veach a lot better.....never mind Dorsey is all about Dorsey.

Couldn't admit he was wrong about Chad Thomas and kept him over Ogbah and Nassib. Also wanted to double down on his Kitchens mistake and let him coach another season. among many other mistakes.
Veach is definitely better at selecting talent, that's obvious. Another trick imho is he also knows when to let dude's go if it's a salary, talent, or chemistry problem. Dorsey, needless to say, didn't have a real nose for any of that...
 

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Kind of like The Purge.

We should be given a Hall Pass to be able to throat punch the galactically stupid.
I feel your pain, though. Got a friend I used to post with on the CBS boards who'd be a Texans fan if he wasn't already rooting for the Chiefs. Funny part is his wife's a Cowboys fan. Needless to say they don't quite mesh during the season...

Course I guess I can't say anything. My wife's a Packers fan ... :lol:

Cheesehead and title towels included...
 

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I feel your pain, though. Got a friend I used to post with on the CBS boards who'd be a Texans fan if he wasn't already rooting for the Chiefs. Funny part is his wife's a Cowboys fan. Needless to say they don't quite mesh during the season...

Course I guess I can't say anything. My wife's a Packers fan ... :lol:

Cheesehead and title towels included...
That's some evil punishment there!

What did you do in your past life to deserve that?
 

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Veach is definitely better at selecting talent, that's obvious. Another trick imho is he also knows when to let dude's go if it's a salary, talent, or chemistry problem. Dorsey, needless to say, didn't have a real nose for any of that...
Exactly!! For Dorsey it was also more about were they his guys. There's a reason many fans do like him as he thinks like a fan sometimes going for name over fit like he did with the OBJ trade.
 
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