I'm starting to question the NET rankings

[rmilia1]

The movement per game seems to vary drastically . Trans move up 10 spots for losing a close game to a top team while others stay the same when doing the same . Results seem to impact some teams rankings very little while impacting others significantly more .

Example of the latter

Last Monday Iowa St was ranked 15th in NET. During the past week they lost a Q2 home game by 8 and a Q1 road game by 3

Last Monday Iowa was 27 in NET. During the past week they lost a Q1 home game by 1 and won a Q2 home game by 6

Today Iowa St sits 15 ( same as last week ), Iowa sits 30 ( 3 spots lower )

There are a plethora of examples of this type of movement and very little of it seems to make sense

 

[mr.hockey4242]

NET definitely has massive flaws.

Teams like NC State, Auburn, Nebraska all have solid NETs while being bad and/or beating nobody.

It seems like the top 15 can’t move no
Matter how often they lose.

Wisconsin usually goes up following losses

 

[rmilia1]

NET definitely has massive flaws.

Teams like NC State, Auburn, Nebraska all have solid NETs while being bad and/or beating nobody.

It seems like the top 15 can’t move no
Matter how often they lose.

Wisconsin usually goes up following losses

I understand each game is valued less this late in the season but losing teive in a week and not falling at all is crazy especially when neither loss was to a great team . 2 games is still 8% of a typical trans schedule do I'm not sure how that has no impact

 

[ericd7633]

It'll be interesting to see how the committee uses it for seeding/selection. Based off of their seed reveal, I don't think it will be the sole determining factor. It's still going to come down to who you beat and where you beat them. I also don't like that it doesn't seem to penalize teams for poor ooc schedules.

 

[Deep Creek]

It'll be interesting to see how the committee uses it for seeding/selection. Based off of their seed reveal, I don't think it will be the sole determining factor. It's still going to come down to who you beat and where you beat them. I also don't like that it doesn't seem to penalize teams for poor ooc schedules.

Hope you are right. This may be the year when more non P5 conferences get more additional bids than normal. There is some real crap this year in many of the P5 conferences once you get past about 1-5. JMO

 

[UCFhonors]

I'm seeing huge discrepancies too. We lose to the best team in the nation in a close one, Houston, and drop like a rock. Others move up with a loss to a Q1.

Then we destroy a very good SMU by 50 and shoot up 6 spots.

All the while, uf has don't anything and they just continue to climb or don't move down with losses.

They need to take out the margin of victory / efficiency out of it until they make those calculations very transparent.

 

[UCFhonors]

Hope you are right. This may be the year when more non P5 conferences get more additional bids than normal. There is some real crap this year in many of the P5 conferences once you get past about 1-5. JMO

P5 is made up term for cfb. Go take a lap.

#UCFacts

 

[ericd7633]

Hope you are right. This may be the year when more non P5 conferences get more additional bids than normal. There is some real crap this year in many of the P5 conferences once you get past about 1-5. JMO

In order for that to happen, it's going to take teams like Gonzaga, Buffalo, Wofford, Nevada and potentially Belmont to lose in their conference tournaments. All of those teams, outside of Belmont(who has a chance) are going to get in regardless. If they all win their conference tournaments, there aren't really any other teams that have a legitimate chance to be an at large team.

 

[rmilia1]

In order for that to happen, it's going to take teams like Gonzaga, Buffalo, Wofford, Nevada and potentially Belmont to lose in their conference tournaments. All of those teams, outside of Belmont(who has a chance) are going to get in regardless. If they all win their conference tournaments, there aren't really any other teams that have a legitimate chance to be an at large team.

No Furman ??

 

[tomcat1]

The movement per game seems to vary drastically . Trans move up 10 spots for losing a close game to a top team while others stay the same when doing the same . Results seem to impact some teams rankings very little while impacting others significantly more .

Example of the latter

Last Monday Iowa St was ranked 15th in NET. During the past week they lost a Q2 home game by 8 and a Q1 road game by 3

Last Monday Iowa was 27 in NET. During the past week they lost a Q1 home game by 1 and won a Q2 home game by 6

Today Iowa St sits 15 ( same as last week ), Iowa sits 30 ( 3 spots lower )

There are a plethora of examples of this type of movement and very little of it seems to make sense

I still like the RPI rankings much better than the NET rankings even though the committee who will make the selections doesn't agree with me.

 

[rmilia1]

I still like the RPI rankings much better than the NET rankings even though the committee who will make the selections doesn't agree with me.

I like how NET is designed to work . I'm just really curious as to how it's actually working. So many of the results seem to impact different teams way differently than others

 

[tomcat1]

I like how NET is designed to work . I'm just really curious as to how it's actually working. So many of the results seem to impact different teams way differently than others

Maybe the NET rankings will really get tested when all of these conference tournaments begin all over the nation with games on neutral courts.

 

[ericd7633]

No Furman ??

It's gonna be tough for them to get there IMO. They gotta get to the finals of the So. Con tournament. They are actually in a better spot finishing 4th and getting Wofford in the Semi's. They gotta beat Wofford to get in. Will 23-7 get them in? I'm going to guess probably not. Teams that are right on the cusp, in the mid major leagues tend to get overlooked/passed by bubble teams from larger conferences as their conference tournaments get going.

 

[SteelersPride]

The question is what about UCf

 

[osubuckeye89]

Nebraska is 45th in the NET

They are 4-11 since the year turned (15-13 overall)

Their best win all year is against Indiana.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

The movement per game seems to vary drastically . Trans move up 10 spots for losing a close game to a top team while others stay the same when doing the same . Results seem to impact some teams rankings very little while impacting others significantly more .

Example of the latter

Last Monday Iowa St was ranked 15th in NET. During the past week they lost a Q2 home game by 8 and a Q1 road game by 3

Last Monday Iowa was 27 in NET. During the past week they lost a Q1 home game by 1 and won a Q2 home game by 6

Today Iowa St sits 15 ( same as last week ), Iowa sits 30 ( 3 spots lower )

There are a plethora of examples of this type of movement and very little of it seems to make sense

I don't know NETs algorithm at all but this specific example could possibly be explained away with the teams behind Iowa state having bad weeks and teams behind Iowa having good weeks. I don't know if that's the case, but it's possible.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Just dropped 4 NET spots for losing at Nova by 6 in a 1 possession game in the final minute

Wofford now in front of us

Lmao

 

[ericd7633]

Just dropped 4 NET spots for losing at Nova by 6 in a 1 possession game in the final minute

Wofford now in front of us

Lmao

Penn State is one spot behind St John's. Lmao

 

[rmilia1]

Penn St can win out . Go 15-16 and be in the too 40 lol