If anyone would like to be sad:

[msgkings322]

Seiya Suzuki has a .407/.553/.926 slash line so far

 

[stanford the manford]

Seiya Suzuki has a .407/.553/.926 slash line so far

season's young, but damn i wanted some suzuki at the cove

 

[msgkings322]

season's young, but damn i wanted some suzuki at the cove

Me too, hence the sad thread

 

[calsnowskier]

So you guys would have been ok doing a 5/100 on an unproven commodity from Japan?


No 20/20 hindsight cheating. AT THE TIME, you would have been OK with that deal?

 

[stanford the manford]

So you guys would have been ok doing a 5/100 on an unproven commodity from Japan?


No 20/20 hindsight cheating. AT THE TIME, you would have been OK with that deal?

i'm not a deal guy, just would have like to seen suzuki here. he'd be huge with the japanese community and obviously a talent. is he worth the risk of long term $$/contract? maybe, maybe not. we've done worse

ooth ... warriors are destroying denver, so i'm kinda in the i don't really care camp

 

[msgkings322]

So you guys would have been ok doing a 5/100 on an unproven commodity from Japan?


No 20/20 hindsight cheating. AT THE TIME, you would have been OK with that deal?

No hindsight, yes I was fine with it, he's only 27, and $20 mil is not much. We're trying to beat the Dodgers here, we can't always cheap out.

 

[calsnowskier]

1) let’s see his numbers at the end of the season. (Spoiler: he won’t have a slash line of .407/.553/.926)

2) When his deal with the Cubs was announced, I AT THE TIME (no retcon’ing needed) said that was too rich of a deal and I was glad the Giants didn’t match/beat it. Paying him like an established star makes no sense. That leaves next to no room for the club to “win”.

 

[msgkings322]

1) let’s see his numbers at the end of the season. (Spoiler: he won’t have a slash line of .407/.553/.926)

2) When his deal with the Cubs was announced, I AT THE TIME (no retcon’ing needed) said that was too rich of a deal and I was glad the Giants didn’t match/beat it. Paying him like an established star makes no sense. That leaves next to no room for the club to “win”.

Obviously no one is saying that will be his line all year. I just felt strongly he was ready for primetime. The club WINS by having that production in the lineup, not every dollar has to be perfectly spent. $20 mil for age 27-32 of a sort of can't miss guy is a reasonable gamble. Again, we're trying to chase a superteam and we're not overspending.

 

[calsnowskier]

Obviously no one is saying that will be his line all year. I just felt strongly he was ready for primetime. The club WINS by having that production in the lineup, not every dollar has to be perfectly spent. $20 mil for age 27-32 of a sort of can't miss guy is a reasonable gamble. Again, we're trying to chase a superteam and we're not overspending.

Imagine our record now if we had actually signed him instead of skimping and letting the Cubs sign him.

You think we could dare to dream of, oh, I don’t know…

Maybe a 7-2 record?

That would just be crazy pie in the sky thinking, I know.

 

[msgkings322]

Imagine our record now if we had actually signed him instead of skimping and letting the Cubs sign him.

You think we could dare to dream of, oh, I don’t know…

Maybe a 7-2 record?

That would just be crazy pie in the sky thinking, I know.

LOL you're not gonna convince me I was wrong to want him because I wasn't

 

[calsnowskier]

LOL you're not gonna convince me I was wrong to want him because I wasn't

Who’s trying to convince anyone of Jack?

 

[pachyderm]

1) let’s see his numbers at the end of the season. (Spoiler: he won’t have a slash line of .407/.553/.926)

2) When his deal with the Cubs was announced, I AT THE TIME (no retcon’ing needed) said that was too rich of a deal and I was glad the Giants didn’t match/beat it. Paying him like an established star makes no sense. That leaves next to no room for the club to “win”.

calsnowskier = zaidi ?​

 

[calsnowskier]

calsnowskier = zaidi ?​

 

[tzill]

So you guys would have been ok doing a 5/100 on an unproven commodity from Japan?


No 20/20 hindsight cheating. AT THE TIME, you would have been OK with that deal?

woulda made me a little queasy, but yeah. I think I would have. However, I completely understand that FZ didn't want to. End of the day: I trust FZ.

Also, lets see how he's doing at the ASB when the league has a book on him.

 

[tzill]

Obviously no one is saying that will be his line all year. I just felt strongly he was ready for primetime. The club WINS by having that production in the lineup, not every dollar has to be perfectly spent. $20 mil for age 27-32 of a sort of can't miss guy is a reasonable gamble. Again, we're trying to chase a superteam and we're not overspending.

There's the rub. Was he "can't miss," "maybe miss," "likely to miss?"

Its why FZ gets paid large dollars. He's not going to be 100% right, but he's right A LOT. He passed on Gausman, for instance.

 

[msgkings322]

There's the rub. Was he "can't miss," "maybe miss," "likely to miss?"

Its why FZ gets paid large dollars. He's not going to be 100% right, but he's right A LOT. He passed on Gausman, for instance.

I stand by it. I had a feeling he was legit.

 

[tzill]

Who’s trying to convince anyone of Jack?

I'm with cal here, msg. Not to gang up, but your take at the time was to pay the money. That's noted and you may be right. I just don't know if getting him would have changed things a ton. Maybe. But, maybe not.

Also, powder is dry for the trade deadline.

 

[msgkings322]

I'm with cal here, msg. Not to gang up, but your take at the time was to pay the money. That's noted and you may be right. I just don't know if getting him would have changed things a ton. Maybe. But, maybe not.

Also, powder is dry for the trade deadline.

It wasn't that much money, the player's age was right, and it was a sure fill to a need. I get that FZ is the one who calls the shots and he obviously knows what's he's doing but I think of this as a miss.

 

[LHG]

I'm on the fence with this guy. The ask was a bit high, in my opinion, and there's been more than a few flops from Japan recently. I don't think he fit in the "can't miss" category but he seemed more a likely to hit prospect than we've seen the past couple of years.

 

[msgkings322]

woulda made me a little queasy, but yeah. I think I would have. However, I completely understand that FZ didn't want to. End of the day: I trust FZ.

Also, lets see how he's doing at the ASB when the league has a book on him.

Definitely possible this is fools gold with him but the early start shows he's at least ready for this and not a bust.