How long will the 2026-27 lockout last?

[comet28]

Thought this was relevant after the Dodgers' latest championship.

 

[dtgold88]

Hopefully as long as it takes to fix the sport. If it's a year or 2 so be it.

 

[TheGoodMan19]

Armageddon. I think even the big money teams realize that this can't go on. A cap HAS to be accompanied by a Real salary floor. Pittsburgh and other coupon clipping teams are worse for the game than the Dodger or Mets.

 

[dtgold88]

Armageddon. I think even the big money teams realize that this can't go on. A cap HAS to be accompanied by a Real salary floor. Pittsburgh and other coupon clipping teams are worse for the game than the Dodger or Mets.

agree though have heard the union even fights against a floor. No idea why but guessing they have their reasons?

 

[TheGoodMan19]

agree though have heard the union even fights against a floor. No idea why but guessing they have their reasons?

The MLBPA has stated since the 60's that there should be no rules governing players earning power. Most players want to see the luxury tax and revenue sharing abolished. Historically, the Players Union has been one of the strongest unions in history, more than the Teamsters or Steelworkers. And they know the money has a trickle down effect. The salary for a superstar might be silly to some, but if they knew what defensive replacements and LOOGYs made, they would really crap.

 

[dtgold88]

The MLBPA has stated since the 60's that there should be no rules governing players earning power. Most players want to see the luxury tax and revenue sharing abolished. Historically, the Players Union has been one of the strongest unions in history, more than the Teamsters or Steelworkers. And they know the money has a trickle down effect. The salary for a superstar might be silly to some, but if they knew what defensive replacements and LOOGYs made, they would really crap.

I get it, but how would creating a floor (and getting cheap teams to spend more) hurt their earning power? Or are the opposed to a rule hurting or helping their earnings?

 

[TheGoodMan19]

I get it, but how would creating a floor (and getting cheap teams to spend more) hurt their earning power? Or are the opposed to a rule hurting or helping their earnings?

They want baseball to be like European football. Zero regulations on the earning potential of a player, good or bad. Given free reign, they would abolish the draft. Probably institute "transfer requests" like Soccer. One year trade me or we rip up the deal.

 

[Sportsguy9695]

Armageddon. I think even the big money teams realize that this can't go on. A cap HAS to be accompanied by a Real salary floor. Pittsburgh and other coupon clipping teams are worse for the game than the Dodger or Mets.

I agree there needs to be a salary. I would love to see teams like Pittsburgh and Marlins in the hunt year end year out like the dodgers and Yankees are and that’s coming from a Yankees fan

 

[TheGoodMan19]

I agree there needs to be a salary. I would love to see teams like Pittsburgh and Marlins in the hunt year end year out like the dodgers and Yankees are and that’s coming from a Yankees fan

I think Pittsburgh is a special case and the league should make Bob Nutting sell. He's not even trying and the fans hate him. Yeah, they have had bad lick. KeBryan Hayes and Oneil Cruz looked like building blocks but the fizzled. They have a #1 overall pick, Henry Davis, who looked like an epic bust. Their lineup isn't fit for the Carolina League. And they have the best pitcher in baseball. I know a lot of Pirates fans and the aren't that excited about Paul Skenes. Always the same response "when with the Pirates trade him?" Nutting is just taking the TV and revenue sharing cast and buying another yacht

 

[packerzrule]

The [insert big market team here] are ruining baseball.

 

[navamind]

small market teams are ruining baseball

 

[dtgold88]

small market teams are ruining baseball

if anything it's the rules for each that would be ruining baseball.

Or owners with no will to win (small or mid market).

 

[PolarVortex]

Thought this was relevant after the Dodgers' latest championship.

How much more money are franchises worth now compared to the last lockout that cost the MLB schedule some games? How much more are players making? How much larger are the team payrolls? Shee-et, boy, there isn't going to be lockout. Too much money at stake now. Not just for the owners, but the also for the higher profile players who have their own brand that have basically become corporations in their own right.

My guess is that the owners have already agreed on what they will concede/negotiate and are just calling the MLBPA bluff to see how united the union is.

 

[PolarVortex]

Thought this was relevant after the Dodgers' latest championship.

Would have made any difference if the Blue Jays, Phillies or Mets had won? Their payrolls aren't that much less than the Dodgers.

 

[PolarVortex]

I get it, but how would creating a floor (and getting cheap teams to spend more) hurt their earning power? Or are the opposed to a rule hurting or helping their earnings?

I can think of a couple, but they may be unrealistic:
By conceding to a floor, they may think they will ultimately have to also concede to a cap.

Endorsement deals aren't as lucrative to players signed to a small market team, so they may not want small market teams the opportunity to compete for their services. For example - if Bobby Witt Jr played in NY or LA, we would be seeing alot more of his face on TV commercials. Don't you think?

 

[PolarVortex]

small market teams are ruining baseball

Those franchises will ultiimately be sold to overseas investors as MLB expands beyond North America. The only thing stopping that expansion now is the restricted speed of air travel. But that will change. If commercial airplane companies harness the ability to double the average speed of commercial flights ffrom 550 MPH to 1100 MPH, franchises in KC, Cincy, Pitts, TB, etc, will be doomed.

 

[msgkings322]

Those franchises will ultiimately be sold to overseas investors as MLB expands beyond North America. The only thing stopping that expansion now is the restricted speed of air travel. But that will change. If commercial airplane companies harness the ability to double the average speed of commercial flights ffrom 550 MPH to 1100 MPH, franchises in KC, Cincy, Pitts, TB, etc, will be doomed.

Heck let's make it 2200MPH

 

[PolarVortex]

Heck let's make it 2200MPH

The next era of international travel is just around the corner, but, don't get ahead of yourself.

 

[msgkings322]

The next era of international travel is just around the corner, but, don't get ahead of yourself.

Ah screw it, let's shoot for 3000MPH

 

[PolarVortex]

Ah screw it, let's shoot for 3000MPH

You wanna put a franchise on the moon?