Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by Blackshirts BLVD, Jan 2, 2019.
First? It's basketball.
I voted to expand based on a single belief...
If it doesn't expand it will be disbanded.
These conferences do not like being left out. They are
going to force expansion or they'll remove themselves from
This would be a myth thats already been disproven. Higher competition level increases the meaning of the pay offs.....Best 6 teams that qualify > Best 4 teams based on opinions off the field.....The current system is sit too close to the previous failed system and its showing ratings and revenue will continue to drop. While question marks regarding selection process continue to rise every year
The committee has repeatedly rewarded teams for failing to make their conference championship game and staying home for one week while other teams play. That's idiotic.
Auto bids work at the lower levels because they don't have conference championship games or divisions (for the most part). They just take the team that finished at the top of the league at the end of the season. You'd have to do something like that to make auto-bids work but once it was done you'd have a much better system than a bunch of people who don't know anything more than most on this board sitting in a room and voting on who gets in.
Personally I think 5-8 is the right range. But even if they decide to go toward 16 or 32 teams, I would be okay with that too. It will mean re-structuring the system. If other subdivisions can put together a fantastic bracket, so can FBS.
The only issue here is that college football loves its bowl games, especially its major ones, like say, the Rose Bowl.
I kind of prefer six to be honest. Give the top 2 seeds more time off to rest and place in the semi-finals. Statistically after 6, the quality of the schedule tends to decline.
I would like to see some things change first that would make the 4 team playoff better:
1. Make the committee vote public. Quit gaslighting us with this body of work/eye test bullshit.
1)a. make some component of the rankings analytics.
2.Let the CFP committee pick the refs not the bowl committees. Grade the refs and let the best ones ref the game.
3. Expand the playoff bowls to cover the Midwest and the Northeast.
4. Pick the bowl games that benefit both teams not just Alabama
Yes. And fuck all that talk about 8 teams Take that mother fucker right to 32 teams playing in seeded regional brackets. Fuck the bowls, they don't matter anymore anyway.
I need addresses of all dem "Aye" votes at 53%
I'm killing every one of dos stupid ass bitches.
I consider myself "pro-bowl", but all the games besides the National Championship teams, are purely for money distribution purposes. More and more players are seeing these games as meaningless and skip them, if they want to enter into the NFL draft.
Exactly. I love the bowl games, but if my team is playing in one and a couple of key players pass on it, I may not even watch.
At least with a playoff there is something to play for, and players would want to participate.
I absolutely despise the bowl system. There are only like a dozen bowls worth a shit. Why is there a Redbox Bowl? A Cheezit Bowl? The SERVPRO First Responder Bowl? It's completely ridiculous and no one gives a damn about any of them. There are bowls in dumb places like Idaho and Mobile, Alabama. No one wants to take a vacation to these places. Going to a bowl doesn't mean anything anymore, and you don't even have to have a winning record to go to one. There have been 5-7 teams going to bowls, how stupid is that?
Here's how you fix college football:
First, get rid of all the bowls but the Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Peach, Fiesta, Sun, Citrus, Liberty, Independence, and Holiday bowls. Those are all the bowls founded before 1980.
Second, make an 8 team playoff. The champion of each of the P5 conferences gets an automatic bid. The highest ranked G5 team gets an automatic bid. Then, there are two at-large bids for teams that didn't win a conference but are still considered very strong (weighted things are overall schedule, good losses, and good wins). Playoff teams do not participate in bowls. Seeding is determined by rank, with the higher ranked team getting home-field advantage. The championship rotates between the Rose, Sugar, Orange, and Cotton bowls, no ridiculous Santa Clara game.
Finally, the bowls are determined by rankings (no tie-ins), with the bowls taking the highest ranked teams NOT in the playoffs. So to be in a bowl, you probably have to be top 30, and probably around 8-4 at the worst. The Bowls would choose based in order of their founding, so the prestige of the bowl game would be equal to that. This year, the post season would have been something like (using the Coach's Poll, though I'd be fine with any rankings):
Washington at Bama
UCF at Clemson
Ohio State at Notre Dame
Georgia at Oklahoma
Rose: Michigan vs. Florida
Sugar: LSU vs. Penn State
Orange: Wazzu vs. Texas
Cotton: West Virginia vs. Kentucky
Peach: Syracuse vs. Mississippi State
Fiesta: Utah vs. Texas A&M
Sun: Fresno State vs. Northwestern
Citrus: Utah State vs. Boise State
Liberty: Army vs. Iowa State
Independence: NC State vs. Cincinatti
Holiday: Missouri vs. Appalachian State
I think all of those would be potentially interesting games. These are the top 30 teams in the country, so to make a bowl, you have to be in the top 1/4 of all FBS teams. These Bowl games would all mean something. This year, the playoffs still would have likely ended up with a Clemson-Bama championship, but it would acknowledge all of the teams with a reasonable argument, and I don't see how a team with an argument could get left out in this system.
The SEC Championship game means a ton. And it will not go away. Even if the other conferences do.
Neat. More people on favor of blowing up the entire spot in the guise of fixing it.
People just don't like change. Nobody is complaining now that there are too many teams.
It's not that people are diametrically opposed to change; it's more like: they are opposed to change just for the sake of change - especially if it is not an improvement on the current way things are done.
Only tshirt bandwagoner like you want less football.
And you’re scared of actual competition. You saw what UCF did to Big 12 champ the last time we played.
When was that?
Impossible to do, unless you hate basketball.
It's not a mater of if but a matter of when. I think it's pretty obvious now that they will expand probably to 8 teams.
Rating are down and two of the same teams have already played each other 4 times. This isn't working.
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