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both have an ops+ of 138, KB is much more consistent year to year in that stat.

Who you take?
 

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Harper right now simply because Bryant can't seem to remain healthy and on the field
 

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I'm becoming wary of Harper's future, but he is actually a bit younger than Bryant and put up an OPS+ of nearly 200 when he was 22....have to go with Bryce.
 

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I'm becoming wary of Harper's future, but he is actually a bit younger than Bryant and put up an OPS+ of nearly 200 when he was 22....have to go with Bryce.
He is a few months younger, dunce
 

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Harper right now simply because Bryant can't seem to remain healthy and on the field
He played 151 games in 2015 when he came up after the 9th game of the season.
He played 155 in 2016.
He played 151 in 2017.

He’s had no extended DL stints until this very one.

What color is the sky in your world?
 

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Bryant hasn't had an offensive season like Harper's 2015 and probably never will, but Harper hasn't come close either.

Bryant has 3.7 more WAR than Harper since the beginning of 2015 (in 10 fewer games than Harper). He was also a 6+ WAR player in his first three full seasons and finished in the top 10 three times (led NL position players in 2016). Harper's had one season in the top 10 in WAR when he led the NL with 10.0 WAR in 2015.

I'd say Harper has the higher offensive ceiling, but I also think Bryant will improve on his first few seasons. I lean towards Kris because he plays a tougher position than Bryce.
 

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Uhhh because that’s 1 extra season?

Are you retarded?
Repeating your unsubstantiated statement isn’t an argument.

Now that they’ve had multiple years in mlb and have the same ops+, and we all know their multi year stats, what is the SELF EVIDENT TRUTH that makes harper’s extra year in the league such an obvious plus?
 

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Repeating your unsubstantiated statement isn’t an argument.

Now that they’ve had multiple years in mlb and have the same ops+, and we all know their multi year stats, what is the SELF EVIDENT TRUTH that makes harper’s extra year in the league such an obvious plus?

What are you talking about?

I quoted your “few months” nonsense

Why are you posting ops+

Thanks for clarifying you do in fact have a cognitive disability.
 

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What are you talking about?

I quoted your “few months” nonsense

Why are you posting ops+

Thanks for clarifying you do in fact have a cognitive disability.
You said one more season “DEF MATTERS”

Substantiate that claim since each has had 3+ years and we know their stats.
 

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Bryant hasn't had an offensive season like Harper's 2015 and probably never will, but Harper hasn't come close either.

Bryant has 3.7 more WAR than Harper since the beginning of 2015 (in 10 fewer games than Harper). He was also a 6+ WAR player in his first three full seasons and finished in the top 10 three times (led NL position players in 2016). Harper's had one season in the top 10 in WAR when he led the NL with 10.0 WAR in 2015.

I'd say Harper has the higher offensive ceiling, but I also think Bryant will improve on his first few seasons. I lean towards Kris because he plays a tougher position than Bryce.
Harper has been up and down a lot, but he would have likely been high in the NL in WAR and possibly would have been the MVP last season if not for the sorta freaky injury hitting the bag...although I think even I would know better than to hit the bag flush like that in full stride just after it had rained.

Wow, I just noticed that Harper's advanced defensive stats are atrocious this year...like, Adam Dunn bad.
Is he not running well this season? Maybe his knee is still hosed somehow???
 

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Hence the qualifier "a bit", you insufferable twit!
That’s not what you meant, you lying rhino pizzle. You meant he was a significant amount younger, or else it wouldn’t be worth mentioning. I hate liars
 

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That’s not what you meant, you lying rhino pizzle. You meant he was a significant amount younger, or else it wouldn’t be worth mentioning. I hate liars
I mentioned that Harper was younger because it would be natural to assume he was older than Bryant with so many more ML seasons...but, Harper was in the majors at 19 while Bryant didn't get called up until he was 23. Harper actually had his near 200 OPS+ season when he was 22, younger than Bryant just making the majors (although Kris was quite good at 23, nowhere near 200 OPS+ though).
I wish I knew what the fuck was up with Harper...it really shouldn't be heard to pick him over Bryant given his peaks, but the valleys in between have been too low.

BTW, you are clearly the dumbest AND most obnoxious fuck in this site, and I strongly encourage you to go screw yourself in the ass for all eternity.
 

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Harper has been up and down a lot, but he would have likely been high in the NL in WAR and possibly would have been the MVP last season if not for the sorta freaky injury hitting the bag...although I think even I would know better than to hit the bag flush like that in full stride just after it had rained.

Wow, I just noticed that Harper's advanced defensive stats are atrocious this year...like, Adam Dunn bad.
Is he not running well this season? Maybe his knee is still hosed somehow???

not sure. they do raise an eyebrow, though they're still not very large sample sizes.
 

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You said one more season “DEF MATTERS”

Substantiate that claim since each has had 3+ years and we know their stats.

Dude I’m not sure what you are not grasping about this

It’s about who would you take “going forward”

Someone said Harper is younger

You said “by a few months”(incorrect)

I said “by a full baseball season”

It’s really fucking simple.

Get help.
 
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