Handicapping Haniger's Landing Spots at the Trade Deadline

[PolarVortex]

First, let me throw a disclaimer out there. I don't know what the chances are that Haniger will get traded. But, just let me say this: the immediate future of the Mariner outfield is Kyle Leis, Julio Rodriguez, and Jarad Kelenic. I don't know where that leaves 30-year-old Mitch. Certainly not at DH where he might command a $14-216 million salary. I don't want to see him go but, I'm not the guy evaluating dollars in the Mariner finance office.

So should he be traded, where do I think his best landing spots are?
1. Giants. We've seen their farm team talent in spring training. They have a sore need in their outfield. As a contending team, one more power bat may be all they need to propell them deep in the playoffs.
2. White Sox. Long-term injuries to two of their three starting outfielders has left them shorthanded in a year when they have a good shot at winning the AL /Central.
3. Tampa Bay. They need him to hold off the Yankees and Red Sox, and, offensively, their outfield is under-producing.
4. Red Sox. This is a seriously contending team and they have Danny Santana and his .,169 batting average as their mostly everyday CFer.
5. Milwaukee. Probably don'yt have the assets to compete with the big dogs, but they have a need, and they are a strong contender.

And do not know what is going to happen with Mitch. But Dipoto loves to trade and shock. I think there is about a 60% chance he will be traded. He is a solid contributor but he seemingly is not seen by upper management as being part of our future.

 

[NWinAZ]

First, let me throw a disclaimer out there. I don't know what the chances are that Haniger will get traded. But, just let me say this: the immediate future of the Mariner outfield is Kyle Leis, Julio Rodriguez, and Jarad Kelenic. I don't know where that leaves 30-year-old Mitch. Certainly not at DH where he might command a $14-216 million salary. I don't want to see him go but, I'm not the guy evaluating dollars in the Mariner finance office.

So should he be traded, where do I think his best landing spots are?
1. Giants. We've seen their farm team talent in spring training. They have a sore need in their outfield. As a contending team, one more power bat may be all they need to propell them deep in the playoffs.
2. White Sox. Long-term injuries to two of their three starting outfielders has left them shorthanded in a year when they have a good shot at winning the AL /Central.
3. Tampa Bay. They need him to hold off the Yankees and Red Sox, and, offensively, their outfield is under-producing.
4. Red Sox. This is a seriously contending team and they have Danny Santana and his .,169 batting average as their mostly everyday CFer.
5. Milwaukee. Probably don'yt have the assets to compete with the big dogs, but they have a need, and they are a strong contender.

And do not know what is going to happen with Mitch. But Dipoto loves to trade and shock. I think there is about a 60% chance he will be traded. He is a solid contributor but he seemingly is not seen by upper management as being part of our future.

First off, nice job. I started to do this the other day then quickly realized that I don't know other teams rosters and farms systems as well as I once did and didn't want to look them up.

Second, I like the guy but think it s time to cash him in. If we can make a Cano or Nola type deal for him, we would be looking pretty. I fear we may make a Paxton deal and that scares me.

I like what Tampa has to offer, not sure they are willing to offer it though. I agree Giants sound like #1 need for Haniger services and he being a Cali boy would probably love the move back. Not sure if they have enough to offer. Red Sox always have players to offer and he would kill it there.

I have no clue, but nice post.

 

[Podunkparte]

Use him as bait. If there are nibbles, keep him. If there are bites and maybe even a bidding war, get as big a fish as possible.

Love the guy, but he just isn't a fit for what we hope to do soon unless the return just isn't there.

Hopefully Jerry has the self control to demand a high bar and not waver just to make a deal.

 

[SeattleCoug]

I still really dont know how to handle this situation. Im pretty positive the return is not going to be much and the last month he has not been very good. Only a 90 WRC+ and .675 OPS since June 1.

At this point I still dont know if trading him is the right call. We can say that Kelenic, Lewis and Jrod are the future but 2/3 have proven nothing at the majors yet and other while looking solid hasnt been able to stay healthy. I still think the goal needs to be competing for a playoff spot in 2022 and I think with Haniger on the team, that's an easier thing to do.

Just because you dont trade him this summer doesnt mean you can't trade him in the winter or next year. I'd just prefer not to trade just for the sake of trading or based on what our OF could be.

 

[MarinersBestFan]

Fingers crossed they escort him into a padded room to perform his pre-trade physical.
Would hate to see the deal squashed because of a deep paper cut or ink from a faulty pen gets in his eye or he slips on a bandaid wrapper and falls into the examiners table in an awkward way and pulls a hammy ( you get my point ).

His early season power surge is falling off and that is all that he really offers a suiting team. His batting avg will never turn heads nor will his defensive prowess or speed on the basepaths. 100% correct as him NOT in the Ms future plans.

I think he goes to SF or BOS as you stated. Bostons smaller yard suits him better as does the short Monster wall in LF he can yank all pitches to left as he currently does anyway and set the league record for long singles in 2022.

 

[wazzu31]

I still really dont know how to handle this situation. Im pretty positive the return is not going to be much and the last month he has not been very good. Only a 90 WRC+ and .675 OPS since June 1.

At this point I still dont know if trading him is the right call. We can say that Kelenic, Lewis and Jrod are the future but 2/3 have proven nothing at the majors yet and other while looking solid hasnt been able to stay healthy. I still think the goal needs to be competing for a playoff spot in 2022 and I think with Haniger on the team, that's an easier thing to do.

Just because you dont trade him this summer doesnt mean you can't trade him in the winter or next year. I'd just prefer not to trade just for the sake of trading or based on what our OF could be.

The issue IMO is they need to decide if they are going to trade him ASAP. I don’t think his value is anywhere near the same in the off season because he isn’t some perennial all star that the Yankees, Dodgers or Red Sox salivate over. At the trade deadline you have surprise teams like the Rays or Giants.

 

[NWinAZ]

I hate waiting for offseason trades if a midseason trade is there. More competition with others being traded plus free agency competing. Waiting til next midseason also reduces the return since he would be a free agent in a few months after that.

I am not saying trade him, but if you keep him you better extend him now. I hate going into free agency years for guys that have value. It rarely works in our favor.

I think his powers have gone down because he is pulling off of outside pitches and just rolling them to the left side so pitchers are pitching him outside. If he gets back to going the other way, he will get better pitches to drive.

I am the first to agree, and have said constantly, that our 3 prospective OF's are far from guarantees but we aren't there yet so I am okay that we take a chance on dealing him for the right deal. I still say sign a legit OF in the offseason because youth isn't always ready when you want it to be.

 

[NWinAZ]

I think his powers have gone down because he is pulling off of outside pitches and just rolling them to the left side so pitchers are pitching him outside. If he gets back to going the other way, he will get better pitches to drive.

I hate to say I told you so, but...

Single to right side late in game on an outside pitch. Home Run in 8th.

 

[Podunkparte]

I hate to say I told you so, but...

Single to right side late in game on an outside pitch. Home Run in 8th.

I think Quintana having to pitch to him there had a lot to do with it too. That pitch was still supposed to be low and away, but bases loaded 2-0 and from a lefty, it leaked over the middle.

If they could have gone to a RHP, who knows? Worked out this time and he didn't miss the mistake.

 

[NWinAZ]

I think Quintana having to pitch to him there had a lot to do with it too. That pitch was still supposed to be low and away, but bases loaded 2-0 and from a lefty, it leaked over the middle.

If they could have gone to a RHP, who knows? Worked out this time and he didn't miss the mistake.

I know you are trying to disprove me for your own reasons, but you are wrong. The reason it worked was not because of a mistake pitch because Haniger has had a lot of mistake pitches to hit lately and has either taken them or just missed them. The reason it worked was because going the other way changed his balance. He didn't reach in the 7th when he went the other way he stayed balance and went with pitch. In 8th with the homer, he was balanced once again making him able to drive this ball. Hitting is about the little things. I do appreciate you taking out the time to try and correct me though.

 

[black francis]

Do you Mariners fans think Trammell will pan out?

He'll obviously have to either move to 1b, DH or become the 4th OF

 

[Podunkparte]

I know you are trying to disprove me for your own reasons, but you are wrong. The reason it worked was not because of a mistake pitch because Haniger has had a lot of mistake pitches to hit lately and has either taken them or just missed them. The reason it worked was because going the other way changed his balance. He didn't reach in the 7th when he went the other way he stayed balance and went with pitch. In 8th with the homer, he was balanced once again making him able to drive this ball. Hitting is about the little things. I do appreciate you taking out the time to try and correct me though.

Huh, the butthurt is strong. Not sure what "my own reasons" are, but I was just offering my opinion.

Going forward I'll try to remember that everything you say is 100% right and no one else's input has merit. Should make for a fun discussion board!

 

[SeattleCoug]

Do you Mariners fans think Trammell will pan out?

He'll obviously have to either move to 1b, DH or become the 4th OF

4th OF at best. He’s just over his skis right now. I think he’s gonna see minimal playing time until they wanna call kelenic back up

 

[SeattleCoug]

I hate waiting for offseason trades if a midseason trade is there. More competition with others being traded plus free agency competing. Waiting til next midseason also reduces the return since he would be a free agent in a few months after that.

I am not saying trade him, but if you keep him you better extend him now. I hate going into free agency years for guys that have value. It rarely works in our favor.

I think his powers have gone down because he is pulling off of outside pitches and just rolling them to the left side so pitchers are pitching him outside. If he gets back to going the other way, he will get better pitches to drive.

I am the first to agree, and have said constantly, that our 3 prospective OF's are far from guarantees but we aren't there yet so I am okay that we take a chance on dealing him for the right deal. I still say sign a legit OF in the offseason because youth isn't always ready when you want it to be.

Yeah my only thing is I don’t want to trade him just for the sake of trading him. If the return outweighs what he can provide the next 1.5 years so be it

 

[ulmax]

this is why..the giants want haniger..4th..in hrs..in RF

RF	ATL	82	297	72	84	19	1	24	52	49	85	17	6	.283	.394	.596	.990
1 JoeyGallo RF	TEX	84	276	53	66	6	0	24	52	72	108	6	0	.239	.402	.522	.923
3 AaronJudge RF	NYY	83	308	50	88	13	0	21	47	44	88	1	0	.286	.376	.532	.908
4 MitchHaniger RF	SEA	84	332	57	85	16	1	20	52	23	87	0	0	.256	.309	.491	.800

8 BryceHarper RF	PHI	67	244	47	69	14	0	15	34	35	69	7	0	.283	.380	.525	.905

11 MikeYastrzemski RF	SF	70	252	44	58	20	2	12	34	32	63	1	0	.230	.332	.468	.800

tied for 15th.. at mlb..in hrs..dont worrie about his ave..right now

15 MitchHaniger RF	SEA	84	332	57	85	16	1	20	52	23	87	0	0	.256	.309	.491	.800

just so..it is clear...what the mariners would be giving up.....and..what..a team..would be gitting

 

[ulmax]

it would really take the wind...out of the sales of the mariners...to trade haniger....unless..it was clear...next year..that they would not be going to the pkayoffs...and haniger,,did not have a..... new deal..with the mariners......then trading him ..would be ok

but...even if they trade him......... now...or then.....they would try....to re-sign him..when he became a free agent.....

WHY??.....LOOK ABOVE....THAT...IS WHY

30th in rbis..at mlb.................................................................................................................................xxxxx

30 MitchHaniger RF	SEA	85	332	57	85	16	1	20	52	23	87	0	0	.256	.309	.491	.800

 

[ulmax]

38th in hits

38 MitchHaniger RF	SEA	85	333	57	85	16	1	20	52	23	87	0	0	.255	.309	.489	.798

15th..in runs

15 MitchHaniger RF	SEA	85	332	57	85	16	1	20	52	23	87	0	0	.256	.309	.491	.800

 

[ulmax]

.2 years on his contract..dont hit for HRS..but has a good ave...3rd best..in mlb

3 AdamFrazier 2B	PIT	88	343	53	112	26	4	4	29	33	41	5	4	.327	.394	.461	.855

9 J.P.Crawford SS	SEA	89	323	45	90	22	0	5	31	31	59	3	3	.279	.342	.393	.735

12 TrevorStory SS	COL	76	281	42	71	18	2	11	42	29	69	17	4	.253	.327	.448	.775

if you are looking for a trade..this..is it
prob with
either

1 DonovanWalton SS	TAC	20	82	8	25	6	0	1	17	5	11	0	2	.305	.368	.415	.783

plus plus plus

 

[ulmax]

22 JuanThen P	EVE	2	2	6.25	9	9	0	0	0	0	36.0	39	26	25	5	1	16	35	1.53	.273

your guess is as good as mine on who else

 

[ulmax]

suggested

15 AdamHill P	ARK	2	1	4.19	9	9	0	0	0	0	38.2	33	18	18	4	5	22	44	1.42	.226

6 StevenMoyers P	ARK	1	1	2.12	6	2	0	0	0	0	17.0	12	4	4	0	1	4	13	0.94	.203

or

7 IanMcKinney P	ARK	3	0	2.18	6	6	1	0	0	0	33.0	21	8	8	2	1	15	50	1.09	.179

3 PennMurfee P	ARK	5	2	4.13	10	10	1	1	0	0	52.1	50	27	24	9	5	20	62	1.34	.25