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18 out of 30, right between the Royals and Pirates lol

Some of you see the big numbers at the top of this list and say "good, those are huge overpays", when in fact that's literally the market. We just choose not to shop in that market.

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1. LA Dodgers $351,500,000. Diaz 3/69, Rojas 1/5.5, Tucker 4/240, Phillips 1/6.5, K Hernandez 1/4.5, Muncy 3/26
2. Toronto $323,000,000. Cease 7/189, Ponce 3/30, Tyler Rogers 3/37, Lee 1/1, Okamoto 4/60, J Sanchez 1/6 (approx)
3. NY Mets $273,250,000. Dev. Williams 3/51, Polanco 3/42, Weaver 2/22, Lovelady 1/1, Bichette 3/126, Roberts 1/20, Giolito 1/1.75, Peralta 1/8, Melendez 1/1.5
4. Baltimore $239,675,000. Olonso 5/155. Helsley 2/28, Elfin 1/10, Baz 1/4 (approx), Taveras 1/2, Kittredge 1/10 (approx) Ward 1/12.175, Bassitt 1/18.5
5. Chicago Cubs $235,000,000. Imanaga 1/22, Maton 2/14.5, Thielbar 1/4.5, Harvey 1/6, Milner 1/3.75, Webb 1/1.5, Austin 1/1.25, Cabrera 1/4, Bregman 5/175, Miller 1/2.5
6. Philadelphia $227,000,000. Schwarber 5/150, Keller 2/22, Garcia 1/10. Realmuto 3/45
7. Boston $202,000,000 Contreras 2/29, Gray 1/31, Oviedo 1/3 (approx), Crawford 1/2, Ra Suarez 5/130, Kiner-Faleta 1/6, Durbin 1/1
8. NY Yankees $197,250,000. Grissom 1/22, Rosario 1/2.5, Yarbourough 1/2.5, Blackburn 1/2, Weathers 1/1.75 (approx), Bellinger 5/162.5, Goldschmidt 1/4
9. Detroit $182,000,000. Torres 1/22, Finnegan 2/14, K Jensen 1/11, D Anderson 1/7, Valdez 3/115, Verlander 1/13
10. Oakland $180,200,000 McNeil 1/12, Leiter 1/3, Soderstrom 7/86, J Wilson 7/70. Ibanez 1/1.2, Barlow 1/2, Civale 1/6
11. Atlanta $119,100,000. Rob Suarez 3/45, Kim 1/20, Iglesias 1/16, Yaz 2/23, Payamps 1/2.25, Dubon 1/6.1, Kinley1/4.25, Mateo 1/1, Heim 1/1.5
12. Cleveland $113,000,000. Armstrong 1/5.5, Holderman 1/1.5, Rameriz 4/106
13. Seattle $106,550,000. Naylor 5/92.5, Refsnyder 1/6.25, Knizer 1/1, Ferrer 1/1, Donovan 1/5.8
14. San Diego $100,800,000. King 3/75, Song 4/15, Andujar 1/4, Castellanos 1/0.8, Canning 1/4.25 (approx), Marquez 1/1.75
15. Chicago WS $98,400,000. Murakami 2/34, Kay 2/12, Newcombe 1/4.5, Hill 1/0.9, Dominguez 2/20, Hays 1/6, Hicks 2/16, Fedde 1/5
16. Arizona $87,575,000. Kelly 2/40, Soroka 1/7.5, McCann 1/2.75, Arenado 2/11, Clark 1/1.55, C Santana 1/2, Sewald 1/1.5, Gallen 1/22.025
17. Kansas City $78.100,000. Thomas 1/5, Strahm 1/4.5, Garcia 5/57.5, Pasquitano 2/11.1
18. San Francisco $67,900,000. Houser 2/22, Foley 1/2, Hentges 1/1.4, Mahle 1/10, Bader 2/20.5, Arreaz 1/12
19. Pittsburgh $66,000,000. O'Hearn 2/29.5, Soto 1/8, Lowe 1/11.5, Urquidy 1/5, Ozuna 1/12
20. Texas $61,225,000. D Jansen 2/14.5, Martin 1/4, Alexander 1/1.125, Nimmo 5/30.5, Junis 1/4, Gore 1/6 (approx), Montgomery 1/1.25
21. Houston $54,000,000 Imai 3/54
22. Cincinnati $50,800,000. Pagan 2/20, Ferguson1/4.5, Bleday 1/1.4, P Johnson 1/6.5, Burke 1/3.4 (approx), E Saurez 1/15
23. Tampa Bay $44,500,000. Matz 2/15, Mullin 1/7, Fraley 1/3, Lux 1/6.5 (approx), Martinez 1/13
24. Colorado $38,150 Lorenzen 1/9, McCarthy 1/5.25, W Castro 2/12.8, Quintana 1/6, Sugano 1/5.1
25. Milwaukee $28,250,000. Woodruff 1/22, Baddoo 1/1, Sanchez 1/1.75, Rengifo 1/3.5
26. LA Angeles Angels $22,850,000. Pomeranz 1/4, Yates 1/5, Manoah 1/1.95, Romano 1/2, Grissom 1/.75, J Lowe 1/3 (approx), Moncada 1/4, Suter 1/1.25
27. Minnesota $22.250,000. Bell 1/7, Catarini 2/14, Banda 1.25 (approx)
28. Florida $21,500,000. Fairbanks 1/13, Morel 1/2, Ruiz 1/1, Paddack 1/4, J King 1/1.5
29. St Louis $17,000,000. May 1/12.5, Pozo 1/1, Stanek 1/3.5
30. Washington $7,750,000. Griffin 1/5.5, Mikolas 1/2.25
 

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12th overall at $224M. Not cheap.
 

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18 out of 30, right between the Royals and Pirates lol

Some of you see the big numbers at the top of this list and say "good, those are huge overpays", when in fact that's literally the market. We just choose not to shop in that market.
$60 million a year for Tucker. Crazy schnizzle. Is he really worth $42 million a year more than Josh Naylor? Is he worth twice as much as Schwarber or Olonso? Is he worth five times as much as Arreaz or 6 times as much as Bader?

I agree with you - this is the market. It's just that the market, in general, is really f.ucked up right now. I don't know if it is the Dodgers and Mets that are making it that way, but it is really f.ucked up.
 

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Lack of cap and floor is making it this way. It'll be resolved after the 2027 lockout ends.
 

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12th overall at $224M. Not cheap.
That is the difficulty in looking solely at one offseason's worth of spending to determine how cheap a team is. Not all teams are going to need to spend top 5 or 10 money to be competitive. Now that doesn't mean I'm saying the Giants are a competitive team but just measuring by offseason spending, and not taking into account the overall salary of the team is a bit shortsighted.

That being said, the Giants being the 12th overall team by total salary isn't necessarily a good look either. Maybe not cheap, but are the Giants in the 12th largest MLB market? Is that money being used effectively to buy the 12th best, or better, team in the MLB? Not sure that it is. Giants seem to have the 15th or 16th best roster (just spitballing here. Maybe they have the 12th best roster) but the 2026 season will bear out whether that is true or not.
 

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That is the difficulty in looking solely at one offseason's worth of spending to determine how cheap a team is.
Not all teams are going to need to spend top 5 or 10 money to be competitive. Now that doesn't mean I'm saying the Giants are a competitive team but just measuring by offseason spending, and not taking into account the overall salary of the team is a bit shortsighted.
This is true. And, by my own admission, this lists partially fails in reporting all off-season spending because the list does not include payraises to arbitration eligible players (players in their 3rd-6th years) unless they signed a multi-year contract. That would have been too much to keep up with.
That being said, the Giants being the 12th overall team by total salary isn't necessarily a good look either. Maybe not cheap, but are the Giants in the 12th largest MLB market? Is that money being used effectively to buy the 12th best, or better, team in the MLB? Not sure that it is. Giants seem to have the 15th or 16th best roster (just spitballing here. Maybe they have the 12th best roster) but the 2026 season will bear out whether that is true or not.
 

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This is true. And, by my own admission, this lists partially fails in reporting all off-season spending because the list does not include payraises to arbitration eligible players (players in their 3rd-6th years) unless they signed a multi-year contract. That would have been too much to keep up with.
Not trying to critique your list. That is a lot of work and pretty impressive. Simply pointing out that one shouldn’t get depressed about the direction of one’s team simply by the position of the team on this list. Kudos to you for putting this list together!
 

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Lack of cap and floor is making it this way. It'll be resolved after the 2027 lockout ends.
Maybe this will be the year that it actually happens, but I won't believe until I see it. They have been talking about a cap every time a Collective Bargaining Agreement expires and a new one is being negotiated.
 

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That is the difficulty in looking solely at one offseason's worth of spending to determine how cheap a team is. Not all teams are going to need to spend top 5 or 10 money to be competitive. Now that doesn't mean I'm saying the Giants are a competitive team but just measuring by offseason spending, and not taking into account the overall salary of the team is a bit shortsighted.

That being said, the Giants being the 12th overall team by total salary isn't necessarily a good look either. Maybe not cheap, but are the Giants in the 12th largest MLB market? Is that money being used effectively to buy the 12th best, or better, team in the MLB? Not sure that it is. Giants seem to have the 15th or 16th best roster (just spitballing here. Maybe they have the 12th best roster) but the 2026 season will bear out whether that is true or not.
Agreed. If they make the WC, they are appropriately spending and effective in managing the org. If they don't, one could argue they are OVERspending for the product produced. 12th best team = playoffs.
 

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Maybe this will be the year that it actually happens, but I won't believe until I see it. They have been talking about a cap every time a Collective Bargaining Agreement expires and a new one is being negotiated.
Agreed, but the winds have shifted on this and the public will side with the owners I believe. We shall see but I think we'll get it done. Might cost us next year tho.
 

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Agreed, but the winds have shifted on this and the public will side with the owners I believe. We shall see but I think we'll get it done. Might cost us next year tho.
Could be one of the reasons the Giants aren't doing much...why sign guys when you might just have no games next year. Figure it out for whatever the rules are after.
 

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Could be one of the reasons the Giants aren't doing much...why sign guys when you might just have no games next year. Figure it out for whatever the rules are after.
I think you’re right here. I also think they want to build slow and beat the dodgers when their core has aged. Obviously sucks for Chappy and Webb (and others), but that’s what I think.
 
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