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More so than the first 3 rounds of the draft, the Giants seem to either hit big in this round or whiff badly. In the past ten years, it seems to be more whiffing. But looking further back, the Giants have grabbed Logan Webb (2014), Brandon Crawford (2008), Russ Ortiz (1995) and Rob Deer (1978) in this round.
2015 – Mac Marshall – This pitcher looked more like a late round pick than a 4th rounder just about from the start. He did have some good production in the AZL (2.57 ERA but a troubling 1.429 WHIP) but went downhill from there. He posted a 5.12 ERA and 1.923 WHIP combined in 2015 and 2016 with Salem-Keizer. The Giants did briefly pitch him in Augusta in 2016 and was only slightly better (4.60 ERA, 1.787 WHIP). His 2017 season was almost completely wiped out from injury, pitching 1.2 innings with the AZL squad. He was sent to San Jose when healthy in 2018 and was knocked around to the tune of 5.43 and 1.544. He missed a lot of 2019 due to injury as well but was effective as a reliever in the AZL and San Jose (1.93 ERA, 1.357 WHIP in 14 IP total). Then came the 2020 shut down. He was put in Richmond to start 2021 and was shelled (10.13, 2.500 in 16 IP) before getting let go.
2016 – Matt Krook – One of just two players on this list who’ve made it to the big leagues, Krook has been parts of 4 organizations now, 2 of which have briefly thrown him in big league games. Like Marshall before him, Krook threw decently in the AZL (1.59, 1.412) for his debut season before getting shelled in Salem-Keizer (6.17, 1.943). He was skipped straight to San Jose despite those awful numbers and started 17 games (with another 8 relief appearances), going 5.12 and 1.544 in ERA and WHIP, respectively. He was then packaged with another 3 players in a trade with Tampa for Evan Longoria. They used him as mainly a reliever/spot starter with their AA team both in 2018 and 2019. He posted an ERA in the mid 4s and WHIP between 1.446 and 1.560 those two years. After the 2020 layoff, the Yankees drafted him in the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft and made him a full time starter. He threw well in 201, posting a combined 2.89 ERA and 1.189 WHIP between AA (7 starts) and AAA (14 starts). He then spent the next two years in AAA with the Yankees. He posted okay numbers (4.09 ERA, 1.392 WHIP) in 2022 as a starter but looked really good in relief in 2023 (1.32 ERA, 1.059 WHIP in 34 IP) and got his first big league taste with the Yankees (4 games, 4 IP, 11 ER, 8 H, 6 BB, 3 K). The Orioles purchased his contract from the Yankees just before 2024 spring training and he has been okay this year in AAA as a reliever (3.92 ERA, 1.397 WHIP in 43.2 IP) but got torched in 1 appearance with Baltimore (1 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K).
2017 – Garrett Cave – Yet another pitcher who did not work out well with the Giants (a very common theme in this round), he actually had a fairly brief career in professional baseball. He was knocked around as a reliever in 2017 with Salem-Keizer (5.85 ERA, 1.550 WHIP), as a starter in 2018 with Augusta (5.20 ERA, 1.543 WHIP) and as mainly reliever in 2019 with San Jose (4.95 ERA, 1.900 WHIP). He didn’t throw a professional pitch after 2019.
2018 – Blake Rivera – Like Marshall, Rivera was a pick from a community college. Unlike Marshall (and the others in between them), he went straight to Salem-Keizer and got shelled in 8 starts there (6.16 ERA, 1.632 WHIP). He moved up to Augusta for 2019, where, dealing with injuries, he managed to start 15 games and post a decent 3.95 ERA with a mediocre 1.342 WHIP. When the minor leagues resumed in 2021, he was assigned to Eugene but only got in 4 starts there (with 5 rehab appearances in the ACL) and again did poorly (6.43 ERA, 1.857 WHIP). Despite some rather poor numbers and nagging injury issues, he got moved up to Richmond in 2022 and did well in relief (2.70 ERA, 1.136 WHIP) but also missed time with injuries. The Giants, oddly, decided to hold him back in Richmond for 2023 (I guess they only promote him when he does badly) and he went back to poor results, again as a reliever (4.93 ERA, 1.818 WHIP). He has spent all of 2024 on the IL with Richmond.
2019 – Tyler Fitzgerald – I think you all know who the other guy who made the big leagues is. Fitzgerald has been mainly a solid hitter throughout his minor league career. He played for 3 teams in his debut season, AZL Giants Black (.944 OPS in 13 PAs), Salem-Keizer (.813 OPS in 118 PAs) and August (.639 OPS in 83 PAs). Unlike how the Giants handled other similar draft picks after the 2020 pandemic, Fitzgerald was assigned only one level up from 2019, playing with Eugene in 2021. Whereas he played exclusively shortstop in 2019, he spent almost equal time at 2nd base, shortstop and 3rd base with Eugene, while posting a .837 OPS in 432 PAs. Moved up to Richmond for 2022, he played mainly shortstop, with some 2nd and 3rd base mixed in, while posting a .734 OPS in 519 PAs. Now that may not sound so great, but it is Richmond but the Giants decided to start him there again in 2023. He tore the cover off the ball in 19 games (.999 OPS) and finally got that promotion to AAA. He hit well there (.857 OPS in 466 PAs) and got the call to SF, getting in 10 games and posting a .734 OPS again. We all know how 2024 has gone and he looks like he could be a solid regular on the team.
2020 – RJ Dabovich – Back to a pitcher for this round, Dabovich’s biggest problem is staying healthy. He got to start 2021 with Eugene and dominated (1.42 ERA, 0.632 WHIP) in 11 relief appearances so he was moved up to Richmond, where he stuttered a bit (4.12 ERA but 1.017 WHIP). However, he came back strong in Richmond in 2022 (2.70 ERA, 0.900 WHIP in 22 games) and got moved up to Sacramento (4.38 ERA, 1.459 WHIP in 23 games). This is where it has gone bad for him. In both 2023 and 2024, he has appeared in 4 games with the RiverCats and has posted a combined ERA of 14.14 and a WHIP of 3.000. However, his biggest problem is that both time he has gone down due to injury early in the season and not been able to return. The 2025 season will be a pivotal one for him.
2021 – Eric Silva – As least it can be said of this pitcher that the Giants got a big leaguer because of him. The only high schooler drafted in this round in the past 10 years, Silva got into 2 games with the ACL Giants Orange in 2021 (1 IP, 4 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 2 Ks). He then spent 2022 in San Jose’s rotation, delivering poor results (5.88 ERA, 1.354 WHIP) in 22 starts. He moved to Eugene for 2023, starting 18 games and making 10 relief appearances, where his numbers were just as bad (5.92 ERA, 1.539 WHIP) and even got him briefly demoted to the ACL (2 starts, 5.1 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 13 Ks). The Giants still chose to move him up, now as a full time reliever, to Richmond for 2024. When he was shipped to the Tigers for Mark Canha, he was sporting a 5.01 ERA and 1.161 WHIP. He has since posted a 5.60 ERA and 1.245 WHIP with their AA affiliate.
2022 – Spencer Miles – The last pitcher drafted in this round, maybe the Giants have realized that pitchers in this round really don’t work. He got into 5 games in 2022 (3 in the ACL, 2 with SJ) and struck out 12 in 7.1 IP. Most of his dominance came in the ACL. He missed all of 2023 due to injury and most of 2024 as well. He briefly threw the ACL squad this year (7.1 IP in 5 games) but got shut down. So far, he has thrown 14.2 IP as professional, striking out 22 but giving up 15 hits, only 2 walks and 4 earned runs. There is still potential to tap but he, like Dabovich and Rivera, is dealing with significant injury issues.
2023 – Maui Ahuna – In the first 4 rounds of the 2023 draft, the Giants took 3 middle infielders. This was such an FZ draft. Ahuna didn’t play any professional baseball in 2023 and only got in 34 games this year due to injuries. He started with San Jose, got placed on the IL, spent 11 games in the ACL on rehab assignment (1.063 in 42 PAs purely as a DH). He got activated at SJ but play only 23 games before going back on the IL for the rest of the year. His .636 OPS wasn’t very impressive. His injury gave 2nd round pick Martin a chance to play in low A ball.
2024 – Dakota Jordan – The first outfielder the Giants drafted in the 4th round since 2006, Jordan got into only 2 games with San Jose before an injury of his own. He went 0 for 7 with 2 Ks, 1 run scored, 1 RBI and 1 stolen base. It will be interesting what the possible 1st round pick will do in 2025.
2015 – Mac Marshall – This pitcher looked more like a late round pick than a 4th rounder just about from the start. He did have some good production in the AZL (2.57 ERA but a troubling 1.429 WHIP) but went downhill from there. He posted a 5.12 ERA and 1.923 WHIP combined in 2015 and 2016 with Salem-Keizer. The Giants did briefly pitch him in Augusta in 2016 and was only slightly better (4.60 ERA, 1.787 WHIP). His 2017 season was almost completely wiped out from injury, pitching 1.2 innings with the AZL squad. He was sent to San Jose when healthy in 2018 and was knocked around to the tune of 5.43 and 1.544. He missed a lot of 2019 due to injury as well but was effective as a reliever in the AZL and San Jose (1.93 ERA, 1.357 WHIP in 14 IP total). Then came the 2020 shut down. He was put in Richmond to start 2021 and was shelled (10.13, 2.500 in 16 IP) before getting let go.
2016 – Matt Krook – One of just two players on this list who’ve made it to the big leagues, Krook has been parts of 4 organizations now, 2 of which have briefly thrown him in big league games. Like Marshall before him, Krook threw decently in the AZL (1.59, 1.412) for his debut season before getting shelled in Salem-Keizer (6.17, 1.943). He was skipped straight to San Jose despite those awful numbers and started 17 games (with another 8 relief appearances), going 5.12 and 1.544 in ERA and WHIP, respectively. He was then packaged with another 3 players in a trade with Tampa for Evan Longoria. They used him as mainly a reliever/spot starter with their AA team both in 2018 and 2019. He posted an ERA in the mid 4s and WHIP between 1.446 and 1.560 those two years. After the 2020 layoff, the Yankees drafted him in the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft and made him a full time starter. He threw well in 201, posting a combined 2.89 ERA and 1.189 WHIP between AA (7 starts) and AAA (14 starts). He then spent the next two years in AAA with the Yankees. He posted okay numbers (4.09 ERA, 1.392 WHIP) in 2022 as a starter but looked really good in relief in 2023 (1.32 ERA, 1.059 WHIP in 34 IP) and got his first big league taste with the Yankees (4 games, 4 IP, 11 ER, 8 H, 6 BB, 3 K). The Orioles purchased his contract from the Yankees just before 2024 spring training and he has been okay this year in AAA as a reliever (3.92 ERA, 1.397 WHIP in 43.2 IP) but got torched in 1 appearance with Baltimore (1 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K).
2017 – Garrett Cave – Yet another pitcher who did not work out well with the Giants (a very common theme in this round), he actually had a fairly brief career in professional baseball. He was knocked around as a reliever in 2017 with Salem-Keizer (5.85 ERA, 1.550 WHIP), as a starter in 2018 with Augusta (5.20 ERA, 1.543 WHIP) and as mainly reliever in 2019 with San Jose (4.95 ERA, 1.900 WHIP). He didn’t throw a professional pitch after 2019.
2018 – Blake Rivera – Like Marshall, Rivera was a pick from a community college. Unlike Marshall (and the others in between them), he went straight to Salem-Keizer and got shelled in 8 starts there (6.16 ERA, 1.632 WHIP). He moved up to Augusta for 2019, where, dealing with injuries, he managed to start 15 games and post a decent 3.95 ERA with a mediocre 1.342 WHIP. When the minor leagues resumed in 2021, he was assigned to Eugene but only got in 4 starts there (with 5 rehab appearances in the ACL) and again did poorly (6.43 ERA, 1.857 WHIP). Despite some rather poor numbers and nagging injury issues, he got moved up to Richmond in 2022 and did well in relief (2.70 ERA, 1.136 WHIP) but also missed time with injuries. The Giants, oddly, decided to hold him back in Richmond for 2023 (I guess they only promote him when he does badly) and he went back to poor results, again as a reliever (4.93 ERA, 1.818 WHIP). He has spent all of 2024 on the IL with Richmond.
2019 – Tyler Fitzgerald – I think you all know who the other guy who made the big leagues is. Fitzgerald has been mainly a solid hitter throughout his minor league career. He played for 3 teams in his debut season, AZL Giants Black (.944 OPS in 13 PAs), Salem-Keizer (.813 OPS in 118 PAs) and August (.639 OPS in 83 PAs). Unlike how the Giants handled other similar draft picks after the 2020 pandemic, Fitzgerald was assigned only one level up from 2019, playing with Eugene in 2021. Whereas he played exclusively shortstop in 2019, he spent almost equal time at 2nd base, shortstop and 3rd base with Eugene, while posting a .837 OPS in 432 PAs. Moved up to Richmond for 2022, he played mainly shortstop, with some 2nd and 3rd base mixed in, while posting a .734 OPS in 519 PAs. Now that may not sound so great, but it is Richmond but the Giants decided to start him there again in 2023. He tore the cover off the ball in 19 games (.999 OPS) and finally got that promotion to AAA. He hit well there (.857 OPS in 466 PAs) and got the call to SF, getting in 10 games and posting a .734 OPS again. We all know how 2024 has gone and he looks like he could be a solid regular on the team.
2020 – RJ Dabovich – Back to a pitcher for this round, Dabovich’s biggest problem is staying healthy. He got to start 2021 with Eugene and dominated (1.42 ERA, 0.632 WHIP) in 11 relief appearances so he was moved up to Richmond, where he stuttered a bit (4.12 ERA but 1.017 WHIP). However, he came back strong in Richmond in 2022 (2.70 ERA, 0.900 WHIP in 22 games) and got moved up to Sacramento (4.38 ERA, 1.459 WHIP in 23 games). This is where it has gone bad for him. In both 2023 and 2024, he has appeared in 4 games with the RiverCats and has posted a combined ERA of 14.14 and a WHIP of 3.000. However, his biggest problem is that both time he has gone down due to injury early in the season and not been able to return. The 2025 season will be a pivotal one for him.
2021 – Eric Silva – As least it can be said of this pitcher that the Giants got a big leaguer because of him. The only high schooler drafted in this round in the past 10 years, Silva got into 2 games with the ACL Giants Orange in 2021 (1 IP, 4 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 2 Ks). He then spent 2022 in San Jose’s rotation, delivering poor results (5.88 ERA, 1.354 WHIP) in 22 starts. He moved to Eugene for 2023, starting 18 games and making 10 relief appearances, where his numbers were just as bad (5.92 ERA, 1.539 WHIP) and even got him briefly demoted to the ACL (2 starts, 5.1 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 13 Ks). The Giants still chose to move him up, now as a full time reliever, to Richmond for 2024. When he was shipped to the Tigers for Mark Canha, he was sporting a 5.01 ERA and 1.161 WHIP. He has since posted a 5.60 ERA and 1.245 WHIP with their AA affiliate.
2022 – Spencer Miles – The last pitcher drafted in this round, maybe the Giants have realized that pitchers in this round really don’t work. He got into 5 games in 2022 (3 in the ACL, 2 with SJ) and struck out 12 in 7.1 IP. Most of his dominance came in the ACL. He missed all of 2023 due to injury and most of 2024 as well. He briefly threw the ACL squad this year (7.1 IP in 5 games) but got shut down. So far, he has thrown 14.2 IP as professional, striking out 22 but giving up 15 hits, only 2 walks and 4 earned runs. There is still potential to tap but he, like Dabovich and Rivera, is dealing with significant injury issues.
2023 – Maui Ahuna – In the first 4 rounds of the 2023 draft, the Giants took 3 middle infielders. This was such an FZ draft. Ahuna didn’t play any professional baseball in 2023 and only got in 34 games this year due to injuries. He started with San Jose, got placed on the IL, spent 11 games in the ACL on rehab assignment (1.063 in 42 PAs purely as a DH). He got activated at SJ but play only 23 games before going back on the IL for the rest of the year. His .636 OPS wasn’t very impressive. His injury gave 2nd round pick Martin a chance to play in low A ball.
2024 – Dakota Jordan – The first outfielder the Giants drafted in the 4th round since 2006, Jordan got into only 2 games with San Jose before an injury of his own. He went 0 for 7 with 2 Ks, 1 run scored, 1 RBI and 1 stolen base. It will be interesting what the possible 1st round pick will do in 2025.
