Game #13 New York Giants v New England Patriots Monday December 1, 2025 8:15 PM (ABC,ESPN)

[YankeeRebel]

I watched them all night … very impressed. Giants DL is no laffer … but Drake had to step up just a few times and allowed the line to block … I’ll never understand why fools thought calling Brady a ‘pocket-passer’ was an insult

Yeah I use to argue with people that would claim Brady was a "System QB". What OC would not design a system to the strengths of their QB, that was always a dumbass argument to me

 

[redseat]

Yeah I use to argue with people that would claim Brady was a "System QB". What OC would not design a system to the strengths of their QB, that was always a dumbass argument to me

an unemployed OC that's who!

 

[Yankee Traveler]

and NO points scored in the 2nd half by the Patriots... Offense play calling went to bed.. Pathetic

2nd half was playing not to lose rather than embarrassing the Giants.

 

[redseat]

2nd half was playing not to lose rather than embarrassing the Giants.

Yeah they took their foot off the peddle and it should have cost them. Any other team and it probably would have

 

[YankeeRebel]

Yeah they took their foot off the peddle and it should have cost them. Any other team and it probably would have

I think part of it was knowing they are headed into the bye week, having the game under wraps, not wanting to risk injury. And allowing bench guys some playing time.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Vrabel should lose this stupid moustache

 

[YankeeRebel]

Vrabel should lose this stupid moustache

Ohhh he made it clear that was coming off. He only did it for the My Cleats My Cause event

 

[redseat]

I think part of it was knowing they are headed into the bye week, having the game under wraps, not wanting to risk injury. And allowing bench guys some playing time.

Yeah don't want anyone to get hurt for sure!

 

[redseat]

Vrabel should lose this stupid moustache

It came off the second the clock his 0.00 I am sure... He did say that he was going to shave it off after game.

 

[Southieinnc]

Ggggg

Yeah I use to argue with people that would claim Brady was a "System QB". What OC would not design a system to the strengths of their QB, that was always a dumbass argument to me

Yah, what you really want is your QB to just randomly play the game.......

 

[Southieinnc]

That was one heck of of hit on Dart. QB’s are gonna pay the price trying to get that extra yard.

How's dart feeling this morning?

 

[redseat]

How's dart feeling this morning?

Don't think he remembers his own name

 

[Southieinnc]

Don't think he remembers his own name

He probably woke up in a different dimension......

 

[nefansince75]

Instead of being pissed at Ellis, the Giants should be pissed at Dart.

I reviewed this again. Dart is pursuing a first down. Ellis used the degree of force to prevent the first down. Any less effort by Elliss and Dart gets the first.

Adding to this... Ellis "could" look like a head hunter after the Gunner O hit, however, Ellis braced himself and led with his shoulder while Gunner turned himself toward the hit. Again, Ellis either stops the play or allows the opposition to succeed.

It's not on Elliss to keep the opposition safe. It's on him to used legal technics, which he did in both cases.

 

[redseat]

He probably woke up in a different dimension......

I have no doubt about that. I am pretty shocked the Giants still let him finish the game

 

[nefansince75]

How's dart feeling this morning?

Don't think he remembers his own name

He probably woke up in a different dimension......

I have no doubt about that. I am pretty shocked the Giants still let him finish the game

Dart was wayyyyy luckier than Gunner. Gunner was moving toward the blow and took the full hit. Dart was moving away from the hit so the force went into the momentum that carried him 10 feet, then he skidded and rolled.

It's like an egg toss. Gunner was like the stiff hand and his egg broke. Dart was the soft hand that eased in as his egg was harmlessly caught.

 

[BigKen]

I thought Gonzalez's hit on Fowler was pretty good. Never saw him coming and drilled him after making the catch.

Mapu's shot on TE Johnson was a text book classic hit that Johnson never saw coming and looked like he'd been hit by a truck and literally threw off the ball.

If the Patriots' defense didn't send out neon warning to the Bills, Ravens, Jets and Dolphins as well as the rest of the league, then nobody's watching.

 

[realityball]

Did y’all notice the tackling?

I mean stopped in their tracks, like the Gonzalez hit mentioned above …there were several last night

I thought it was obvious

 

[cheerupcharlie]

TikTok - Make Your Day

If this were real…. Maye would be my favorite player ever.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I watched them all night … very impressed. Giants DL is no laffer … but Drake had to step up just a few times and allowed the line to block … I’ll never understand why fools thought calling Brady a ‘pocket-passer’ was an insult

Yep, never understood that or that he was a system QB. Isn't that what every team wants, a QB that can operate in their system? Brady was a surgeon.

Without comparing Drake to the GOAT, he has a lot of the same qualities and untangibles. But Drake can run+++ I love having that option.