FSU

[belcherboy]

They did but they struggled.

Gotcha! I guess talent alone won the game?

 

[Scapegoat]

Gotcha! I guess talent alone won the game?

I don't know what exactly won them the game but my point is the outcome should have never been in question.

 

[ckhokie]

Recruiting took a ‘dip’ to the #6 class last year. Prior to that they had #3,#3, and #4 rated classes.

It’s not talent, it’s not recruiting.

Taggart is a shitty coach. The film room broadcast and Bud Foster’s comments postgame were pretty telling - nothing was disguised, the play calls were obvious, the execution is that of a poorly coached team.

It’s nuts some posters are still trying to claim talent or recruiting as if FSU shouldn’t be expected to compete with Samford or Syracuse. Player development is on the staff.

 

[Across The Field]

Gah, you just had to use that dumpy bag of potatoes

 

[7Samurai13]

Gotcha! I guess talent alone won the game?

And luck. Samford was driving to tie/take the lead and they threw a pick six.

FSU didn’t lead at any point in the game until 4:03 left in the fourth.

 

[Scapegoat]

Gah, you just had to use that dumpy bag of potatoes

 

[Scapegoat]

And luck. Samford was driving to tie/take the lead and they threw a pick six.

FSU didn’t lead at any point in the game until 4:03 left in the fourth.

Even when they won they lost.

 

[7Samurai13]

Even when they won they lost.

People are crushing Michigan State for playing Utah State close who have gone out and dropped 60 and 73 in their next two games. If you don’t crush the mids or god forbid FCS you are going to take a hit.

 

[SJ76]

Ehh, Syracuse is definitely not good. Having trouble with Samford was really pathetic.

I guess they were not good while beating Clemson last year then..

They are not horrible. FSU is horrible

 

[7Samurai13]

I guess they were not good while beating Clemson last year then..

They are not horrible. FSU is horrible

Did you know that since beating Clemson, Syracuse were 1-6 against FBS opponents before the FSU game? They finished 4-8 last year. They caught lightning in a bottle against a lazy Clemson team that day.

 

[Scapegoat]

People are crushing Michigan State for playing Utah State close who have gone out and dropped 60 and 73 in their next two games. If you don’t crush the mids or god forbid FCS you are going to take a hit.

True

 

[belcherboy]

And luck. Samford was driving to tie/take the lead and they threw a pick six.

FSU didn’t lead at any point in the game until 4:03 left in the fourth.

If FSU played a really crappy game, and STILL won by double digits, wouldn't that be a text book example of "talent alone winning a game"? At least that has always been my definition of it.

 

[SJ76]

Did you know that since beating Clemson, Syracuse were 1-6 against FBS opponents before the FSU game? They finished 4-8 last year. They caught lightning in a bottle against a lazy Clemson team that day.

Oh it definitely happens but this team is not bad. I actually think they might surprise some people. Maybe I’m wrong maybe we were just that shitty

 

[7Samurai13]

If FSU played a really crappy game, and STILL won by double digits, wouldn't that be a text book example of "talent alone winning a game"? At least that has always been my definition of it.

I usually define it as winning in spite of a shitty coaching job. But tomayto tomahto

 

[Inquisitor95]

If their quarterback wasn’t injured, FSU is a top 10 team.
-4D20

Instead they'll need as much lube as they can get.
-WD40

 

[belcherboy]

I usually define it as winning in spite of a shitty coaching job. But tomayto tomahto

Yeah, I just remember watching games (unfortunately, many Michigan games) where they did most everything wrong, and still won the game. IMO, the win was only because the other team was so inferior to them.

I didn't watch the FSU vs Samford game, so I really don't know if that was the case.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

It's absolutely ludicrous how bad their offensive line is, that's step #1

Taggert is not looking good so far, but first they need an offensive line that is comparable to that of my Bills

 

[GoldRusher]

Fisher was as overrated as they come.

A national championship, a Heisman and a gozillion dollar contract says you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Duckboy33]

Recruiting took a ‘dip’ to the #6 class last year. Prior to that they had #3,#3, and #4 rated classes.

It’s not talent, it’s not recruiting.

Taggart is a shitty coach. The film room broadcast and Bud Foster’s comments postgame were pretty telling - nothing was disguised, the play calls were obvious, the execution is that of a poorly coached team.

It’s nuts some posters are still trying to claim talent or recruiting as if FSU shouldn’t be expected to compete with Samford or Syracuse. Player development is on the staff.

His play calling sucked at Oregon too. The only teams Oregon beat they just had a lot more talent than. The only reason people thought he was a good coach was because he was being compared to Helfrich who let the players do whatever they want.

 

[thunderc]

A national championship, a Heisman and a gozillion dollar contract says you have no clue what you are talking about.

Bullshit, I got eyes. I know what he was and is. Saw all I needed to know when he went out of his way to rub Winston in everyone’s noses. All coaches put up with things but he went out of his way to make it look like Winston was the victim while all the time they were violating laws. He’s a dumbass and they won’t ever win with him at A&m, it won’t happen.