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Going into week 11, the oddsmakers have given the Rams a 0.9% chance of making the playoffs.

So not too soon to start playing armchair GM, as I've seen many threads here do.

First up - our guys. We are actually in pretty good shape there. Of the starters, only Saffold, Dunbar, and Stewart are UFA.

Currently we have 46 players under contract at $122 million. So little if any cap space, again.

We'll see if Bradford takes a restructure - currently he's scheduled to make $17 million. No way he makes that on the open market so I think he will quietly restructure to give us some room.

Finnegan and Wells are the other guys that you immediately have to wonder if are worth their current contracts. Long is making a lot of money, but seems worth it, as does Laurinitis.

Finnegan is making $10 million - but if we cut him we take a $6 million hit, meaning we only recoup $4 million this year. Wells is playing better, but if we cut him we get the full value back, $4.5 million, with no dead money this year.

I think the smart thing to do is to resign our own guys when possible, and look to restructure Bradford and Finnegan. That would give us some cap room. If Bradford insist on $17 million, probably time to give him his walking papers.

Dunbar should be easy to sign. Stewart personally I like, but the deepest area in FA is Safety - there's 7 or 8 quality starters becoming UFA next year: Bird, Bethea, Whitner, Clarke and Pollard are the best. The market should be depressed with a glut of quality starters.

If Bradford is booted, then we get $10 million cap back (and have $7 million dead money that year). There is almost NO ONE at QB coming up - the only viable starter is Jay Cutler. He's OK, but has a lot of negatives as well. And he'd cost more than we'd have available without other cuts.

We'd pretty much have to go QB in the draft, and that's the hardest position to draft successfully. Even 1st round picks only hit half the time. There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding on draft success on this board - as a rule if you are in the top half of the first round, you are a 'hit' about 75% of the time. That means someone who starts in the league for 5 or more years. Back half of the first round to first half of the 2nd - 50% chance of a hit. After that it goes down - fast. By the middle of the draft (4th round) you are looking at 20%. QB chances are lower.

Looking around the rest of FA there's a few interesting names - but no money to go get them. We won't be signing much there. And overall the quality at our places of need (except S) are low, and they are high priced. CB has an interesting collection of names as well. Want a splash at RB? 29 year old (by then) Maurice Jones Drew is probably your only hope there.

What will make it interesting is there are several teams in really bad cap shape going into 2014. The Cowboys are $25 million over the cap. The Saints are $18 or so. The Steelers about $15. And the Seahawks are about $1 million over the cap, with some interesting names in the free agency list (Golden Tate for one).

Looks like there won't be too much movement and we'll continue to improve through the draft.

Which sounds good to me. :D
 

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Ok... follow me here. Finnegan is cut and Wells is cut. that gives us 8.5 million to go after someone like say Jarius Byrd or Bernard Pollard and still have money to sign a DT like Alan Branch.

Then you use the 10 million we get back from letting Bradford walk to make sure Dunbar stays and then maybe make a run at someone to play RT like Michael Oher or Tyson Clabo and add some depth in the secondary like Aqib Talib or Rashean Mathis.

Bottom line is I do not think Bradford is going to restructure and he will walk. I also do not think Finnegan will restructure. The Rams will go into 2014 with a rookie QB...
 

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Bradford will restructure. I promise. he knows he'll get no where near that much on the open market because of his injuries and sketchy play at times. If we were talking about Brady or Manning then we would pay him whatever he asked for.
 

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Bradford will restructure. I promise. he knows he'll get no where near that much on the open market because of his injuries and sketchy play at times.

So do you think he won't get more money than Cutler? I would be willing to bet that there is a team out there (Jacksonville?? Tampa??) that would pay him more than the $10 million per year that I feel is the MAX we should pay him in 2014.
 

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I don't think there are any teams that will pay him 17 million a year. Which is what he is due. But he'll take 10.
 

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Someone will be willing to pay him more than 10 but less than 17.....If I am Snead, I stand firm on restructuring to $10 million.
 

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Bradford can't possibly think he is going to get 17 mil from the Rams based on his play the last few seasons and now the fresh ACL injury. Hell he needs to take a pay cut down to 6 million IMHO, but that won't happen. I'd rather Finnegan restructure to stay and play the nickle position/safety.
 

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Finnegan has been absolutely awful this season, and now is done for the year. He would have to take a sizable cut to stay if it was my call. Dahl and Wells would be in similar circumstances.
 

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I'm actually liking Wells now - he's played several good games, and he's getting paid let a vet, not overpaid like a free agent star.

I think as long as he plays at this level he's earning his paycheck. I wanted his head back when we were averaging 55 yards a game running through the first 4 contests. Now that we are putting up 150+ regularly, I'm fine with him. :)
 

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Bottom line is I do not think Bradford is going to restructure and he will walk.
I also do not think Finnegan will restructure. The Rams will go into 2014 with a
rookie QB...


Who likes the idea of drafting a rookie QB, bringing in another Game Managing QB, and have Clemens ALL compete for the QB spot?

I DO I DO! Hell I would take Josh McCown from the Bears next year with Clemens and Taj Boyd? It seems we are ok with a solid D and some RB bowling balls. Hell get another bowling ball too.

How much money would that free up?
 

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So do you think he won't get more money than Cutler? I would be willing to bet
that there is a team out there (Jacksonville?? Tampa??) that would pay him more
than the $10 million per year that I feel is the MAX we should pay him in 2014.


See with Jax having an early pick, I think they draft another QB. With Tampa winning, they may not have that luxury so they could sign Bradford. But watch out for teams like Chicago or Arizona to sign Bradford, especially AZ. But if Sam goes to Chicago, he will be eaten alive. You think our fans are hard on him? LOL
 

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I would cut Finnegan in a heartbeat. If you cut him right after the Superbowl, you will avoid his $3 mil roster bonus for 2014 & just take a $3 mil cap hit for the rest of his signing bonus. And that could be spread out over two seasons, thus saving you $8.5 mil for 2014.

I imagine that Bradford would be willing to sign a new contract that drops his yearly average cap hit around the $10 mil range, thus saving the Rams about $7 mil in cap space next season. I really don't see him getting "big QB money" if he were to be cut, there are too many questions surrounding him. He won't be a target for Arizona with Palmer in the fold & playing well. The Cardinals have more pressing needs before they go and spend $10+ mil a season on a QB that still has question marks around him. Been there, done that. But I could see a team like Chicago or Minnesota going after Bradford. I just don't see any team giving him more money than Cutler.
 

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Yes his salary is the biggest issue at this point. He really hasn't been injury prone as this last injury could of happened to anyone. However, if we just dump him we eat 10mil which just wont do. We can't trade him because no team will want to pay his salary. They'll probably extend his contract and spread out the money. If he's not willing to play ball then we'll have to deal with him and his salary next year, then we dump him if he doesn't play like a top 5 QB.
Next year is do or die time for Bradford. Period
 

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Who is the 4th DB since Finnegan is on IR?
 

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Brandon McGee and Quinton Pointer are the next two in line Jermaine!
 

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I would cut Finnegan in a heartbeat. If you cut him right after the Superbowl, you will avoid his $3 mil roster bonus for 2014 & just take a $3 mil cap hit for the rest of his signing bonus. And that could be spread out over two seasons, thus saving you $8.5 mil for 2014...
If correct, and I thought you were, I would take the same line. There is a discrepancy in the reported details of Finnegan's contract. Many sites report just report his $6M salary, $3M bonus, and $10M cap figure, (due to the prorated signing bonus), without commenting on whether his 2014 roster bonus is fully guaranteed. Originally it was only guaranteed for injury. Spotrac reports: "2014: $6 million base is non-guaranteed; $3 million roster bonus guaranteed for injury only on signing (becomes fully guaranteed five days after the Super Bowl XLVII)". That Super Bowl was last year and would mean that the bonus is now guaranteed - but it could be a typo.

Cortland Finnegan Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & Transactions

ProFootballTalk reported within the last 24 hours: "...his contract calls for him to make $6 million in base salary with a $3 million roster bonus due five days after the Super Bowl. The salary isn’t guaranteed, which could lead to a change for Finnegan’s contract and/or employment status...". Finnegan certainly isn't due that bonus in February. If he were it would count towards this year's cap. The indication is that it would guarantee the $3M roster bonus next season.

Cortland Finnegan has orbital fracture, needs surgery | ProFootballTalk

If the bonus isn't yet guaranteed the smart move is to cut him before it does become guaranteed. There were a lot of good CBs in free agency last year and they all signed for around $5M a year. Keeping Finnegan at $9M would make little sense. He'll need to clear IR before he becomes eligible.
If the bonus has become guaranteed and he's due no further money until September it would make no sense to make a decision on whether he's worth another $6M until he performs in pre-season next year. Even at $6M I don't think he'd be value, but it would cost nothing to wait and see.
I guess we'll find out what the situation is sometime after the Super Bowl.
 
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