Four Redskins make the Pro Bowl

[Breed]

And in that same article it was also mentioned that 3-5 days into training camp it was rather questionable to make such determinations on a rookie player. Most also expected a guy in his second year to look more comfortable at the position than a rookie. At the time it was questioned if Washington had been too quick to make the move to putting Scherff at OG. Now for the most part it has worked out for the team. As having what looks to be an all pro level RG next to an average OT might serve better than having a different setup. But I guess this question really gets answered over the next year or two. Because I think we can all safely say that barring a major injury, Scherff will be here for the long haul. Moses.... I still think if they had a better option, he would be a backup.

I can't call it and truth be told. I coiuld care less that Scherff was drafted as high as he was and he plays guard. I do know guards very rarely have been drafted as high as Scherff. I can only think of two. Hannah and Jim Parker. If Scherff can be be included in any conversation that includes those two when talking about great NFL guards. He will indeed have been the selection.

But.................I also thought he was the initial pick to put the Skins on track to be a physical, punch you in the mouth team. We're not a tough team, not from a physicality standpoint. We have a couple players imo, Twill, I'd include Scherff, Garcon, Kelley, and that's probably it. Our defense is, well, embarrassing. That's all I can say about them.

 

[Breed]

How many teams average a rushing TD each game?

Close to a third of the league with 10 teams.

I'd venture that no team in the NFL has fucked off points like the Skins have. And about 14 teams have scored more TDs thyan the Skins have. No team has more FG att though and only 3 have more FGs made. Yay FGs!

 

[Breed]

Quick Google search confirms that he started OTA's and the first week of camp at Tackle and the move was made because he was better suited at guard because MM was vastly improved and improving under the tutelage of BC.

Word. And wasn't the talk coming from Redskins Park that they were switching Scherff to tackle after drafting him?

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

As I said before I'm vvery happy that Scherff is playing well, I'd much rather see that they win a silly argument. However again as I keep saying the discussion about Scherff/Williams is ongoing, it's too early to pronounce victory. And by saying "Dad was right" you are acknowledging that Scherff was a better pick than Williams, which was exactly what he has done with the post that I quoted. It's too early to make that declaration, that's all I'm saying.

I'm thrilled he's as good as we had hoped. Why can't we just all be happy about that without all the bickering?

 

[Skin'EmAll]

lol at this thread, It's great Scherff made the pro bowl, some redskins are actually getting respect.
His play made us forget that we passed on a more important need in Leonard Williams.
Its also fair to keep in mind Matt Jones appears to be more suited for zone than power and the entire league
didn't feel Kelly was worth being drafted. While Kelly looks good, I'm sure a more talented back would have more production.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I don't know about that, OL and DL were equal needs 2 years ago. I just think getting a potential dominant DL is harded to do than a Pro Bowl guard.

 

[Stymietee]

Word. And wasn't the talk coming from Redskins Park that they were switching Scherff to tackle after drafting him?

Yup!

 

[Skin'EmAll]

I don't know about that, OL and DL were equal needs 2 years ago. I just think getting a potential dominant DL is harded to do than a Pro Bowl guard.

totally agree, I also agree its nice to see young talent be recognized by the league.
If Richardson didn't have so many character issues, i think he would have been worth a trade shot this off-season. Leonard Williams has def taken over for him.

 

[deanpet21]

I don't know about that, OL and DL were equal needs 2 years ago. I just think getting a potential dominant DL is harded to do than a Pro Bowl guard.

Exactly, that was the whole argument on the Scherff vs Williams debate. Its so hard to find dominat 3-4 De vs RG.

 

[Sharkinva]

Exactly, that was the whole argument on the Scherff vs Williams debate. Its so hard to find dominat 3-4 De vs RG.

I dont know about that. The Texan have two Dominant DE's, same could be said for quite a few teams actually. Just because we have ignored BOTH lines for the better part of 14 years, does not mean you pass up on what you consider the better player for the more sexy pick. And if Williams were hands down considered the better player.... dont you think he would have been gone or some one would have traded up for him before we passed on him??

 

[gkekoa]

Exactly, that was the whole argument on the Scherff vs Williams debate. Its so hard to find dominat 3-4 De vs RG.

If Williams ever becomes dominant, let us know.

 

[Breed]

I dont know about that. The Texan have two Dominant DE's, same could be said for quite a few teams actually. Just because we have ignored BOTH lines for the better part of 14 years, does not mean you pass up on what you consider the better player for the more sexy pick. And if Williams were hands down considered the better player.... dont you think he would have been gone or some one would have traded up for him before we passed on him??

Gotta see what JJ looks like next year. I d0on't know about now, but there was talk his back injury could be career ending. He was contemplating retirement as well for a minute and admits he over-trained after the initial injury and came back too soon. J.J. Watt reveals the scariest injury of his career, has contemplated retirement He sounds like he's ready to go now.

And lets not crown Clowney just yet. I read he had the best game of his pro career last week, but I guess I'd take more notice if that game was against NE and not Jax. Plus his 5 sacks for the entire season up to this point can't really be classified as unleashing the dragon just yet.

And Williams was considered the better player, Shark. There was even talk he would go #1 and was the best player in the draft regardless of position. I know this becauseI found all that talk to be very odd. I mean he wasn't a scrub or anything, but he was never ever ever the player they made him out to be in the mocks and pre-draft talk. He was a good all around player in college plus he played both DT, his frosh year, and DE his soph year. He was never the great pass rusher mocks were making him out to be. In fact I think he was a little disappointing his soph year only garnering 8 sacks as a DE. While getting 6 sacks as a frosh playing DT. I thought he was better as a DT than a DE.

 

[gkekoa]

Again, those shows don't count. Every person sees things differently. Nobody on here, other than Dean, thought Williams was the bomb diggitty the talking heads made him out to be. He had a low motor and a ton of talent. That made him a good collegiate and a solid/good pro but nothing special.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Well obviously SM felt Scherff was the better player as both would have filled a need. But with Williams going on the very next pick it was clear that many had them rated very close.

Like I said I'm pleasantly surprised at this selection so soon. As posted the Pro Bowl is a populatiry contest with many of the players' votes being fairly uninformed. As telecasts rarely focus on Scherff the way they used to show Russ Grimm clearing a path I'm surprised so many noticed how good he is.

 

[skinsdad62]

look i love how people down grade the PB as a popularity contest . it means you are amongst the best at your position period

believe me if willaims made the PB dean would have had a orgasm quicker then a teen at a scarlett johanson **** flick

williams , at this point , isnt a dominant d/lineman , scherf is top 2 at his position

 

[Breed]

look i love how people down grade the PB as a popularity contest . it means you are amongst the best at your position period

believe me if willaims made the PB dean would have had a orgasm quicker then a teen at a scarlett johanson **** flick

williams , at this point , isnt a dominant d/lineman , scherf is top 2 at his position

The PB is a popularity contest, at least in part. There's no way to get around that. The Hall of Fame is as well. Its like that in every North American team sport. That doesn't mean all players voted into the PB are undeserving or unworthy, but it is what it is and we see it every year in every sport.

The biggest snubs I see far as the PB this year are Drew Brees, Joey Bosa and the guy I wish the Skins had targeted in FA last year, Damon Harrison.

And maybe Dean can have his orgasm after all as there's a couple articles out saying Williams should've been a pro bowler this year.

11 Players Snubbed In Pro Bowl Voting

2016 Pro Bowl selections, snubs for every team
New York Jets: The Jets' only worthy Pro Bowl candidate was defensive lineman Leonard Williams, but he may have been undermined by a technicality. Read more.

The most egreious and asinine shit I ever heard when it comes to not voting for someone for accolades of a pro bowl or hall of nature comes from baseball.

Not too far back. There was a well respected and established New York sportswriter who had a vote for MLB's Hall of Fame and said had he been around at the time or had it been up to him. He would've never voted the Dodgers Walter O'Malley into the HoF. Now not verbatim, but this is basically what he said. While he acknowledged that O'Malley was pretty much solely responsible for taking baseball from a east of the Rocky Mountains regional sport and turning it into America's most popular sporting pasttime ensuring that MLB would not only endure, but also grow and thrive well into the future. By moving the Dodgers from Brooklyn to LA. As well as convincing the owner of the Giants to leave NY for San Francisco. And being solely responsible once again for intergrating baseball. He wouldn't have voted O'Malley into the Hall of Fame with his reasoning being this. He took the Doodgers and left Brooklyn. That's it. Despite being the author of the two biggest moves in the history of major league baseball. With one of those moves rippling out well beyond the realm of baseball far as its cultural signifigance and history of our very country. This triflin mothafucker was too butthurt, bitchmade and selfish to look beyond his own feelings of fandom.

That's how fickle and irrational voting a player into the pro bowl or hall of fame can be and has been.