Does anyone want to do a strategy draft???

[SmokingMonkey]

OK, you talked me into it. I'll do this, but I get to have the first pick!

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Exactly. The QB-first "strategy" with the earliest pick will win. No need to do a whole draft.

why??? the rest of their picks might be affected by that pick... especially if done with the first pick, to not get a top 12 RB or top 10 WR may be detrimental... Even knowing the stats there is so many possible ways to go!!!


Again, it seems like nobody wants to do this, but it should be very interesting... at very least it should help you in this coming seasons draft, more so than any mock draft would!!!

 

[wilwhite]

I honestly believe there are as many, or more, championships won from savy work after the draft as there are those won from the draft.

I suspect the contrary is true just as often, with people losing faith in their original analysis and hamstringing their team.

Case in point: with the same twelve owners in both leagues, FOUR guys had suicide teams that outscored their MBBRL A teams (and another was within a handful of points).

In fact, Ram's suicide squad outscored ELEVEN of the MBBRL A teams.

Which is amazing - not only did each suicide team lose about 20 points on the season from K/DST bye weeks, they didn't have a flex.

(Treff has always made his teams better during the season, but that's not true of all of us.)

 

[wilwhite]

why??? the rest of their picks might be affected by that pick... especially if done with the first pick, to not get a top 12 RB or top 10 WR may be detrimental... Even knowing the stats there is so many possible ways to go!!!

Nope. The Peyton Manning value is prohibitive. He was 170 pts better than every QB but Brees. You just can't make that ground up at the other positions.

Here - you tell me your 10 strategies and I'll tell you the teams they'd end up with and who wins.

Would be different for other years, though. Nobody skewed the stats like that in 2012, so that's harder to predict.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

OK, you talked me into it. I'll do this, but I get to have the first pick!

I am not sold that payton manning being picked first will win... But i am more than happy to give you the first pick if we can get people to do this...

But i am sure if we do get people to do this, the majority wont want to just give you first pick!!!

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Nope. The Peyton Manning value is prohibitive. He was 170 pts better than every QB but Brees. You just can't make that ground up at the other positions.

Here - you tell me your 10 strategies and I'll tell you the teams they'd end up with and who wins.

Well, hopefully it would be 12, and it would be 12 different strategies done in many different ways... thats why i would want to do the experiment with real people... Again, i think this would be much better than any mock draft!!!

 

[wilwhite]

You don't need real people, though. Obviously if you're going to take a WR, you'll take the remaining WR who had the most FF points last year.

And more than that, I don't think adhering blindly to a fixed-position-per-round strategy makes sense to a single poster here, never mind twelve.

 

[TREFF]

You gotta be seeing something that no one else can even sniff. I can't think of one single thing to be gained from this other than a temporary fantasy football fix. And honestly I can't even see getting that.

 

[leftypower]

I suspect the contrary is true just as often, with people losing faith in their original analysis and hamstringing their team.

Case in point: with the same twelve owners in both leagues, FOUR guys had suicide teams that outscored their MBBRL A teams (and another was within a handful of points).

In fact, Ram's suicide squad outscored ELEVEN of the MBBRL A teams.

Which is amazing - not only did each suicide team lose about 20 points on the season from K/DST bye weeks, they didn't have a flex.

(Treff has always made his teams better during the season, but that's not true of all of us.)

Probably true but that wouldn't be savvy work following the draft, it would be the opposite. ....

 

[MilkSpiller22]

You gotta be seeing something that no one else can even sniff. I can't think of one single thing to be gained from this other than a temporary fantasy football fix. And honestly I can't even see getting that.

Maybe that, and probably me not explaining well what I want to do...


But again, I think this experiment does a bunch of things

1. helps you know who had the better season- there will be many surprises... there has always been a debate about taking WR from bad offenses, did they deserve to be drafted over some #3s or 4 on a good offense??? it should help understand that trend...

2. It should help create your 2014 rankings...

3. It will help you form your best strategy for draft day...




Honestly I see this experiment to be better than any mock draft you can do, since there is no prognostication its all about WHAT Has happened already!!!

If nobody wants to do it that's fine, but I don't think you guys understand the benefits of this!!!

 

[TKOSpikes]

I understand totally. It's just irrelevant. Last year's numbers have nothing to do with what might happen this year. And as far as effecting my rankings, it would not make me look at anyone any differently than I do now. Cecil Shorts could have had 2000 receiving yards last year and I still wouldn't draft him this year.

 

[TKOSpikes]

A positional draft strategy just doesn't work. As most have said, you must ride the waves of each draft as they come. I could promise myself to go WR/WR but someone left McCoy get to me at the 6th pick, so I am switching my strategy....as the rounds get lower, the waves get higher.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

A positional draft strategy just doesn't work. As most have said, you must ride the waves of each draft as they come. I could promise myself to go WR/WR but someone left McCoy get to me at the 6th pick, so I am switching my strategy....as the rounds get lower, the waves get higher.

TKO, I am sure it is my fault, but I don't think you understand what I am trying to say and what this experiment does...

Do you think even with knowing the stats that you could draft a winning team or at least a top half team??? Is there any advantage in where you draft?? I understand, that this is an ideal draft, but that doesn't mean it is easy!!! Does drafting Peyton manning automatically give you the win???


I have no idea... And if it did, then isn't that a good reason to draft manning first in real drafts???

 

[TKOSpikes]

I have no idea... And if it did, then isn't that a good reason to draft manning first in real drafts???

But that's the point... how often do things remain in fantasy football? Sure tiers might stay the same, but I don't see Peyton having 55 TD passes this year. I do understand what you're getting at, I'm just saying doing it wouldn't sway me one way or the other, because it was last year and that has absolutely nothing to do with this year.

Every year is different and just because something is right in 2013, doesn't make it so in 2014. I remember a stat from two years ago (I think), where there were 3 WR that were in the top 24 each year during a consecutive three year stretch... 3. (I think it was White, Colston and Harvin, but I could be mistaken). I'd be willing to bet that the percentage hasn't changed a whole lot.

Therefore just because we "should" have taken Antonio Brown ahead of Jordy Nelson last year, doesn't mean I'm drafting that way this year.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

But that's the point... how often do things remain in fantasy football? Sure tiers might stay the same, but I don't see Peyton having 55 TD passes this year. I do understand what you're getting at, I'm just saying doing it wouldn't sway me one way or the other, because it was last year and that has absolutely nothing to do with this year.

Every year is different and just because something is right in 2013, doesn't make it so in 2014. I remember a stat from two years ago (I think), where there were 3 WR that were in the top 24 each year during a consecutive three year stretch... 3. (I think it was White, Colston and Harvin, but I could be mistaken). I'd be willing to bet that the percentage hasn't changed a whole lot.

Therefore just because we "should" have taken Antonio Brown ahead of Jordy Nelson last year, doesn't mean I'm drafting that way this year.

I understand that, and that's not the purpose for this at all...

 

[TKOSpikes]

Well then yes, I'm at a loss, and don't know what you're trying to say.