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Do you agree with the selection committee's make up?

Codaxx

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I always love the Condi Rice argument. Your qualified to make decisions that affect the United States and the world as Secretary of State, but you can't decide who the best 4 teams in the country are for College Football, because you have lady



Total straw man. She is just a fan. Her expertise is in other fields. Bill Belicheck isn't qualified to run an army. Gen Schwartzkopf isn't qualified to run the Pats.
 

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Yeah, maybe. That still doesn’t mean they are judging teams for the same things.

It's damn near impossible for them to fuck it up. And even if they do fuck it up it's going to be some 4th place team and they aren't really there for anything more than a free meal - even though they've won 50% of the NC's so far.
 

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Yes, keeping bias out of the equation is the worst idea ever. So you Condoleesa Rice was a authority on football? You think being an AD makes someone know college football better than an ex-NFL coach or a FCS coach?

You are making the assumption you are removing bias and it's a false assumption.

Maybe she was included as she was seen as an....unbiased judge?
 

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1 reason that I would like an expanded playoff with Byes. Bama didn't deserve to be in based on their play. I thought they were one of the best 4, based on the assumption they would be healthy when the playoffs rolled around. That turned out correct, but it was a pretty big assumption and disregarded some of the season. It is a bad precedent. Open this up and those kind of admissions don't really matter. Plus win and go home football beats the he'll out of bowls.

Why not do like a March madness bracket format?
I too hate this bowl crap,and the constant arguing over strength of schedule,etc...

1 and done for all.
 

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You are making the assumption you are removing bias and it's a false assumption.

Maybe she was included as she was seen as an....unbiased judge?

I didn't say she was bias. I said there is no reason to have any appearance of bias, when it can easily be avoided. Likely by more qualified people, I might add
 

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Why not do like a March madness bracket format?
I too hate this bowl crap,and the constant arguing over strength of schedule,etc...

1 and done for all.

It's clear that the players don't view the bowls as important as ESPN does. Lots of kids playing reduced roles to completely skipping bowls.
 

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Total straw man. She is just a fan. Her expertise is in other fields. Bill Belicheck isn't qualified to run an army. Gen Schwartzkopf isn't qualified to run the Pats.

Bullshit, she wasn't asked to coach Alabama to the National Championship...she had to pick the 4 best teams in the country. Something we have asked people that haven't played a lick of college ball to do for generations. Half the members on the committee right now have never played college ball and I consider most of them qualified too. I've never performed rotator cuff surgery, but I felt qualified to evaluate which doctor I was going to let do it based on their resumes...same principle applies.
 

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Well, yeah...but there are 130 FBS schools...located in 10 leagues.

The actual playoff would be between the 10 conf champs
The problem you will come across is sometimes the best team cannot make the CCG, see the SEC in 2017, the B1G in 2015 and 16.
 

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no, not a fan of that lipstick
 

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It would make sense to just let the committee be comprised of retired non-FBS coaches, includes NFL. Just avoid the topic of bias all together.

How many coaches could there possibly be with absolutely no ties to an FBS program and why are they more qualified than what we have now.

Why don't we just take 13 random people off the street.

Maybe we should just let IBM's Watson have a crack at it, the bitch plays chess at the master level, he could probably knock this out in a couple of seconds.
 

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How many coaches could there possibly be with absolutely no ties to an FBS program and why are they more qualified than what we have now.

Why don't we just take 13 random people off the street.

Maybe we should just let IBM's Watson have a crack at it, the bitch plays chess at the master level, he could probably knock this out in a couple of seconds.

Lots of coaches haven't coached in the P5. I didn't say they more qualified, simply qualified without any appearance of bias. I am not sure why that is offensive to Bama fans, but for some reason you guys seem to have an issue with it
 

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Bullshit, she wasn't asked to coach Alabama to the National Championship...she had to pick the 4 best teams in the country. Something we have asked people that haven't played a lick of college ball to do for generations. Half the members on the committee right now have never played college ball and I consider most of them qualified too. I've never performed rotator cuff surgery, but I felt qualified to evaluate which doctor I was going to let do it based on their resumes...same principle applies.

Damn, you are reaching. Most of the members have played football. Many have coached, most have AD experience. That is a quite different skill set, than a career academic and Secretary of State. I sure you can see the difference.
 

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Lots of coaches haven't coached in the P5. I didn't say they more qualified, simply qualified without any appearance of bias. I am not sure why that is offensive to Bama fans, but for some reason you guys seem to have an issue with it

My problem is I don't want qualified, I want more qualified. If that comes with the appearance of bias, so be it.

I do find it laughable that someone is making the argument that Alabama made the playoffs this year because of Steve Wieberg, Jeff Long and Bobby Johnson.
 

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My problem is I don't want qualified, I want more qualified. If that comes with the appearance of bias, so be it.

I do find it laughable that someone is making the argument that Alabama made the playoffs this year because of Steve Wieberg, Jeff Long and Bobby Johnson.

Some have brought it up, I didn't. I simply said why have the appearance of bias when you can avoid it. You could also simply give each of the P5 equal representatives, which would also squash any thoughts of bias
 

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Some have brought it up, I didn't. I simply said why have the appearance of bias when you can avoid it. You could also simply give each of the P5 equal representatives, which would also squash any thoughts of bias

I never made that argument either.

My only argument here is that each conference should get ONE representative. Have the conference commissioners nominate one person, so all the biases get cancelled out.
 

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My problem is I don't want qualified, I want more qualified. If that comes with the appearance of bias, so be it.

I do find it laughable that someone is making the argument that Alabama made the playoffs this year because of Steve Wieberg, Jeff Long and Bobby Johnson.

For the record, I am not in that camp. My ONLY argument here is that each conference should get ONE representative.

All the biases should get cancelled out.

The AP poll and the Coach's Poll have mirrored each other every season.
 

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The problem you will come across is sometimes the best team cannot make the CCG, see the SEC in 2017, the B1G in 2015 and 16.

I agree with that, especially since ADs make up the OCCs and SOS differs per conference.
 

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For the record, I am not in that camp. My ONLY argument here is that each conference should get ONE representative.

All the biases should get cancelled out.

The AP poll and the Coach's Poll have mirrored each other every season.

You started this post saying the SEC, ACC and Pac-12 were over represented. If you want to reexamine how that was bullshit, look at my first post in this thread.

As for your committee socialism, there is no way the P5 conferences will give equal representation to the G5 conferences, nor should they. If you didn't bring as much to the table you don't get as much to eat...this isn't a commune. There is a reason the P5 conferences get $270 million off the top from the playoffs and the G5's get $81 million.

Each conference does get a representative on the board of managers that overseas the CFP, that is about as equal as it's going to get.
 

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Or they can just have regular playoffs like every single pro and college sport other than D1 football does.

Problem solved.
 
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