DeShaun Watson

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

View attachment 276652

Those "hurdles" being "21+ sexual assault cases"...

 

[jarntt]

Those "hurdles" being "21+ sexual assault cases"...

"How can we frame Wentz for this"

 

[jarntt]

It is beyond shocking that any team would be so clueless and tone deaf as to trade for Watson right now. I can't imagine this trade goes through. How can a team even pick up the phone and entertain a discussion on trading for this guy right now? The protests and backlash will be huge. Are they even paying attention to what is going on in the World right now?

That being said, Watson to Philly (ignoring cap and what they would have to give up to get him) would be a game changer. Hurts is not an NFL QB. They go from the worst team in the division to the best with this move.

 

[jarntt]

Yikes... That's a scary price to pay for someone that might not even see the field in 2022 pending his 23+ active legal cases.

Cap Hits:
2021: $15.9m
2022: $40.4m
2023: $42.4m
POTENTIAL OUT: 2024 (dead cap of $5.4m)
2024: $37.4m
2025: $32m

Granted if he gets himself clear of the legal stuff, you're trading for a potential top 3 QB with 5 years remaining under contract at an average of $39m per season. High price to pay but he could easily turn around a franchise that needs a QB.

Those are his cap hits with Houston not with a new team. The signing bonus cap hit stays with Houston if traded. New team cap hits:
2021 $10.5M
2022 $35M

After this they can cut him with no dead money. His 2023 salary and bonus will become guaranteed in 3/22. If they keep him it's $$37M for 2023. Then they go year to year with no more guaranteed money: 2024 $32M, 2025 $32M

All very reasonable ignoring the fact that he is going to be suspended and basically a pariah...

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Those are his cap hits with Houston not with a new team. The signing bonus cap hit stays with Houston if traded. New team cap hits:
2021 $10.5M
2022 $35M

After this they can cut him with no dead money. His 2023 salary and bonus will become guaranteed in 3/22. If they keep him it's $$37M for 2023. Then they go year to year with no more guaranteed money: 2024 $32M, 2025 $32M

All very reasonable ignoring the fact that he is going to be suspended and basically a pariah...

Good to know... Still $35m is a black hole next year if his sexual assault cases causes him to get suspended.

 

[RobToxin]

 

[Manster7588]

In situations like this teams should be given cap relief. Teams can't watch playersc24/7. If players are suspended for off field legal issues (assult, murder), their salary while sitting shouldn't count against the cap. If players are suspended in cases the courts aren't looking into by all means then yes their salary will effect the cap.

 

[fastforward]

In situations like this teams should be given cap relief. Teams can't watch playersc24/7. If players are suspended for off field legal issues (assult, murder), their salary while sitting shouldn't count against the cap. If players are suspended in cases the courts aren't looking into by all means then yes their salary will effect the cap.

It's a nice idea but it would be too complicated to implement. It would require Mr. Goodell to evaluate each claim on a case-by-case basis and award percentages of cap relief. He's already accused of being biased. Besides, Player X with a $20M cap breaks a leg in July and misses the season, Player Y with a $20M cap is arrested in July and misses the season. What's the difference from a cap perspective?

I suppose teams could write clauses into contracts to void salary where players are unavailable because of legal issues. It would be messy if some teams did whilst others didn't.

 

[Manster7588]

It's a nice idea but it would be too complicated to implement. It would require Mr. Goodell to evaluate each claim on a case-by-case basis and award percentages of cap relief. He's already accused of being biased. Besides, Player X with a $20M cap breaks a leg in July and misses the season, Player Y with a $20M cap is arrested in July and misses the season. What's the difference from a cap perspective?

I suppose teams could write clauses into contracts to void salary where players are unavailable because of legal issues. It would be messy if some teams did whilst others didn't.

IMO player X has a physical issue, cap hit count, player has a felony issue hanging over his head cap excused.

Maybe just excuse possible felonies from cap hits.

I agree letting Roger decide is a horrible idea.

 

[Kevin12773]

In situations like this teams should be given cap relief. Teams can't watch playersc24/7. If players are suspended for off field legal issues (assult, murder), their salary while sitting shouldn't count against the cap. If players are suspended in cases the courts aren't looking into by all means then yes their salary will effect the cap.

Sean Taylor was murdered and his numbers didn’t come off the books. How fuckin stupid is that

 

[Judge Fudge]

I don't think he'll play this year.

If he did... we are looking at a Canadians/Logan Mailloux situation that creates three things:

A) A Black Eye for the league
B) Bad Press
C) Backlash of Epic proportions.

NFL Wants None of those things.

And for those who are wondering what the hell im talking about. Google it. I post the name below but thats all I'll do

Logan Mailloux

 

[mannyz]

I honestly can say I do not know very much about him. I have not watched many Texan games. How good is he?

 

[Manster7588]

Sean Taylor was murdered and his numbers didn’t come off the books. How fuckin stupid is that

It was stupid as stupid can be. If a player dies. His cap hit should be void.

 

[jarntt]

It was stupid as stupid can be. If a player dies. His cap hit should be void.

Don't give Eagles fans any crazy ideas...

 

[Manster7588]

Don't give Eagles fans any crazy ideas...

That was truly Phenomenal.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

If Eagles FO makes this trade than they'll never be able to do a full rebuild.

 

[Southieinnc]

In situations like this teams should be given cap relief. Teams can't watch playersc24/7. If players are suspended for off field legal issues (assult, murder), their salary while sitting shouldn't count against the cap. If players are suspended in cases the courts aren't looking into by all means then yes their salary will effect the cap.

Are you suggesting that teams be able to disassociate themselves from player conduct?

Try that in your field!

 

[Manster7588]

Are you suggesting that teams be able to disassociate themselves from player conduct?

Try that in your field!

I'm saying that when players are removed for crimes that they might face jail or prison time, they arevgiven cap relief.

Teams can't baby sit these guys 24/7.

 

[Pure Steel]

Don't give Eagles fans any crazy ideas...

Wentz would have been dead 3 years by now......

 

[Battlelyon]