Cruz/Cantwell Legislation Discussion

[cooljack]

If this bill passes and becomes law, I expect the B10 and SEC to part with the NCAA. Money drives every market in this country.

 

[wazzu31]

Salary Cap and pooling media rights among Conferences are both Communism.

No. Freaking. Thank. You.

Sports is much closer to communism than anything resembling a free market

 

[ThomasTomasz]

yeah, but i would argue that most big boy programs have the same goals. they want to maximize revenue. Programs with lesser prestige receiving equal payouts does not achieve that.

and again, it's reasonable to forecast that no one would be pushing anyone out but we are in an era of college athletics where the future is impossible to forecast. The Pac-10 no longer exists. The ACC went from having 7-9 members for its first 50 years eofxistence to being at a bloated 17 where at least half the schools are unhappy and want out.

No one is arguing that they are going to be sharing revenue with mid-majors and the most likely candidate to be left out of a superleague. but, under your initial argument they will be sharing revenue with Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, Vandy, South Carolina, Purdue- schools that don't provide material value to media revenue.

You need to play those schools each year though. I don’t think the super team, big boy programs want to beat up on themselves.

It’s the other programs not in their conference getting those payouts that’s the issue. While I’m sure that the smaller G6 conferences would love their share of SEC/B1G money, it’s never going to happen. Those conferences will pull out, and really, I think the entire sport suffers at that point.

We do need a cap or some sort of contract situation. I do like how NIL has evened the playing field, even as a UGA fan. We lost Jared Curtis to Vanderbilt of all places. 8 years ago, there is no way that happens, and Curtis sits behind other 5* QBs and waits on his chance to start. It’s nice for him and others to go bet on themselves to play immediately at smaller schools, and then come up to a bigger program in a couple years. We’ve gotten some really great football in the American Conference since NIL has officially started.

Someone also mentioned what would happen to the non-revenue sports. Would these athletic programs just take football, basketball and maybe baseball, and leave the rest behind?

 

[GatorTheo]

Salary Cap and pooling media rights among Conferences are both Communism.

No. Freaking. Thank. You.

I guess we need to decide what 'college' sports are. Are they competitive events for entertainment or are they cutthroat businesses who will screw over anyone for more money?

 

[Calhoun]

Someone also mentioned what would happen to the non-revenue sports. Would these athletic programs just take football, basketball and maybe baseball, and leave the rest behind?

When you say "leave the rest behind," do you mean abandon non-revenue sports, or leave the non-revenue sports with the NCAA?

 

[ThomasTomasz]

When you say "leave the rest behind," do you mean abandon non-revenue sports, or leave the non-revenue sports with the NCAA?

Seems like they are the same thing. Abandoning them would leave them still at the “schools.”

Breaking off from the NCAA would also cease for this to be “college sports” anymore, and if so, is this another league in its entirety? Or do they still follow the same kind of age requirements they have now?

There are a lot of questions to be answered if they go their own way.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[GatorTheo]

Do schools get any tax breaks because they are 'college' teams?

 

[Calhoun]

Seems like they are the same thing. Abandoning them would leave them still at the “schools.”

Breaking off from the NCAA would also cease for this to be “college sports” anymore, and if so, is this another league in its entirety? Or do they still follow the same kind of age requirements they have now?

There are a lot of questions to be answered if they go their own way.

Why would the NCAA allow a league to pull their money making sports from the Association, then provide care and feeding for their non-revenue sports? That's akin to an unfaithful wife expecting her husband to take care of her kids from a previous relationship when she shacks up with her new beau.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

 

[Justin Tyme]

cutthroat businesses who will screw over anyone for more money?

They have proven this many times over the decades

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

 

[GatorTheo]

They have proven this many times over the decades

Will we eventually eliminate the 'student' angle and just have them be employees? How does the money work there? Do the colleges make anything extra because the players are 'students'?

 

[Hotel Security]

What a surprise that the SEC/Big Ten are against this. I went to a Big Ten school but it's basically fact that these two conferences are the enemy of college sports. All they've done is try to ruin football, they're trying to ruin March Madness, and of course they're against attempts to fix some things. The people running these conferences don't even seem to like sports.