Crazy contracts

[ELYEAH82]

Who get the next crazy contract? My guess is if the Devils deal does make it there will be several to follow until the CBA is up, so I want to know who gets the next monster deal. Any thoughts? Sid gets a 30 year deal with the last 10 being league min. That would only make him 54 when the deal ends.

 

[scottflyers88]

doughty.

 

[ELYEAH82]

Shea Weber and maybe Parise

 

[pixburgher66]

what i think really needs to be stopped with all of these is the length, obviously, because the trend is growing and guys are getting huge deals. these deals basically makes it impossible to trade many of the players getting them, and that is just dangerous. teams are going to bury themselves with horrible contracts (i'm looking at you chicago), and even if it's NOT circumventing the cap (like DiPietro for example), there comes a point where it makes a GM look foolish. i think there should be something like a 10 year limit on these, and even 10 years is LONG. 17 years is an entire career for most guys, it's just ridiculous.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Tyler Myers

32 years, $160 million, and all you can eat wings on Thursdays in the Summer between 5-7pm EST.

 

[puckhead]

doughty.

good pick.
Stamkos is RFA next summer, too.

 

[ELYEAH82]

I agree these deals are ridiculous but if they are allowed then it is only going to get worse. Every year it goes a step beyond the last so assuming this, a 25 year deal is right around the corner.

 

[banditshcky11]

Damn the 2 I thought were stated already... Doughty and Stamkos, the only other player I can think of that could deal would be Tavares since locking a player down for life seems to be the only way the Isles can keep anyone :P But seriously that would be a great move for Snow since it should help to start to attract some more talent.

 

[anderwho2513]

I'd bet Parise and Seabrook, as those are the guys who have shown they can play at a high level with teams who need to circumvent the cap to keep them. Maybe Doughty. Maybe Bergeron. If Semin doesn't bolt for Russia, he'd be another guy. Pretty much all the other RFAs are cheap enough or play on teams with enough cap space to avoid the frontloaded deal, and almost all the UFAs (outside of the ones mentioned)are too old to get the 10+ year contracts.

 

[Darkstone42]

I'm going to say no more. I know that's kind of going out on a limb, but this particular contract's absurdity may have been a ploy to get the league to stop these things, and if it wasn't it's inherent ridiculousness might (and should) scare teams away from giving out these kinds of contracts.

 

[pixburgher66]

darkstone, i agree, especially with the recent reports that they KNEW it was going to be rejected. just weird.

 

[IPostedWhat]

darkstone, i agree, especially with the recent reports that they KNEW it was going to be rejected. just weird.

 

[Darkstone42]

darkstone, i agree, especially with the recent reports that they KNEW it was going to be rejected. just weird.

I just can't imagine what made them think they were a good idea in the first place. Sure, it brings the team's cap hit down in the now, but it also drives up prices on mid-level guys, gets high-end talent demanding more money and job security at the same time, and handcuffs the team financially. A GM should, in my opinion, never offer a contract longer than 7 years, and those should only go to young core players. Then you can get guys locked up long-term (ish) while simultaneously giving you flexibility going forward, since the contract doesn't last forever and is very trade-able.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

I have a very laissez faire approach to this. If the GMs want to take that big of a risk, let them. It's not the league's job to keep the GMs from fucking themselves. The salary cap makes it tough to build a consistent contender, so teams have to get creative. When Detroit signed Franzen and Zetterberg, that pretty much ensured that they could keep the core together for another few seasons, but also could potentially hog tie them down the road.

The Kovalchuk deal was ridiculous, and I do think that they should make a rule that no deal signed before a player is 35 can carry them past the age of 40. But who cares? Why do you guys want to put a stop to these deals so bad? There have only been about a dozen of them out of 600 odd players, and already Dipietro's has been shown to be a complete disaster. Lecavelier hasn't been the same since his concussion, that could be another massive albatross, and Franzen and Zetterberg have both had health problems in the past. This is a fad, and it will not last. The GM's should have the option to give lifetime deals, and I believe the risk will keep it from ballooning out of control (provided they change the rules a tad... we can't sign guys to the age of 90 so they have 750k cap hits now).

 

[pixburgher66]

I just can't imagine what made them think they were a good idea in the first place. Sure, it brings the team's cap hit down in the now, but it also drives up prices on mid-level guys, gets high-end talent demanding more money and job security at the same time, and handcuffs the team financially. A GM should, in my opinion, never offer a contract longer than 7 years, and those should only go to young core players. Then you can get guys locked up long-term (ish) while simultaneously giving you flexibility going forward, since the contract doesn't last forever and is very trade-able.

the affect it has on the market is where it is it's most volatile. this deal, along with others, is giving the upperhand to the players, which is something which should never happen. agents will eat these up, point them out and try to get GMs to budge. it's just not good, and there was nothing better than the NHL finally stepping up.

 

[ELYEAH82]

If the league doesnt stop this, it will be the same type of deals till the CBA is up. If a guy who never scored 100 can get this type of cash then several others deserve the same or more.

 

[TOX1]

Tyler Myers

32 years, $160 million, and all you can eat wings on Thursdays in the Summer between 5-7pm EST.

At the Anchor Bar no doubt!