Discussion in 'NBA Basketball Forum' started by bksballer89, Jul 2, 2018.
Hi there, trojan! *waves hello*
Did NGS shut down? Haven't been over there in a long time.
Nope, it's still around, although it's down, at the moment ... some glitch.
It should get fixed pretty quickly once DL finds out about it, though.
I still post over there on MKTF. AFR, which Fog moved off the site, has, well, let's just say more and more of those folks are starting to spend more and more of their time over here.
Glad it's still up. Gonna have to visit over there again one of these days soon.
I really have nothing intelligent to add to a discussion about the NBA, I just saw the title of the thread, and I smiled the way I did when I initially heard the news, so I stopped in.
Thanks for sayin' hi ... I'm glad to see you.
I have a failsafe way to beat the Warriors
I would take your team in 6
So who/what did Boston trade away to land KG and Ray Allen, again? I can tell you that I definitely remember the Timberwolves getting taken to the cleaners in that KG trade, and everyone knew it from day 1. I'm not totally sure about the Ray Allen trade, but at least for the KG one, Boston's reward clearly outweighed the risk of what they traded to get him, and there was never any question about that. In the end, there's no quantifiable difference between signing free agents and trading away what amount to several bums no one remembers 3 years after the trade, especially when the trade was immediately considered heavily in their favor as soon as it went down.
Also, the Heat traded for Bosh. LeBron was the only player in his prime that they brought in as a free agent signing to form that super team. Lastly, none of those Heat teams, or Cleveland teams that LeBron built after leaving Miami, were anywhere near as stacked as the Warriors are currently. I'm not even a LeBron fan and was critical of the Miami move when it happened, but comparing that to what the Warriors are doing these days is ridiculous.
Boston traded KG for Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes, Their Ratliff and two future 1st round picks who ended up being Wayne Ellington and Jonny Flynn. It should be noted Steph and DeRozan we're taken right after Flynn. Jefferson average 20/10 in Minnesota before they traded him away for what ended up being nothing. Green had potential but ovbioobvi didn't figure it out until later in his career.
Boston traded Ray Allen for Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West and a 2008 2nd rounder. The key piece being Green who had just been selected 5th overall in the draft.
That's comparable compensation IMO. The Sonic's/OKC were set up for long term future success. The Timberwolves could have been if they didnt Timberwolve it.
Technically you're correct in that the Heat "traded" for LeBron and Bosh. But the decision was held on July 8, 2010 and then they were both "traded" to the Heat. The Raptors received two future 1st rounders and the Cavs received two 1st rounders(2013, 2016) and two 2nd rounders. No players were involved.
Also I only said the Warriors built their super team mostly through draft and trades. I mean they won 73 games before Durant got there.
Miami is the original super team IMO, not Boston and was constructed mostly through free agency. I mean seriously look at the roster. That was my point. Also the Warriors were fortunate Steph was a on a team friendly deal, along with the huge jump in salary cap, to even make signing Durant a possibilty. So there was some luck involved, but they built this through the draft. Miami most certainly did not.
Yea I agree with your reasoning - and I have Klay better than Harden in my book because Klay is good on both ends of the court whereas Harden couldn't careless about defending.
So we were arguing for nothing???
Yea, I mean I agree with his reasoning on why most would pick Klay - but I just don't agree that it's CLEAR Harden is better.
This has been responded to multiple times. Lebron/Wade/Bosh colluded during the Olympics to join the same team to chase championships. Starting the trend of superstars working together to remove competition. Celtics spent years acquiring assets and then cashed them in for players still under contract.
lol well for the record Miami got LBJ in a sign & trade.
And comparing the heatles teaming up to the Warriors teaming up isn't ridiculous. It's CHECKMATE.
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Cousins was surprised he didn’t get any offers well maybe you shouldn’t have declined a 2 yr $40M offer from the Pelicans. After that offer was made and Cousins declined it the Pelicans took that offer off the table. Cousins plan from the start was to ride the W’s while injured to get a ring, his plan worked out lolzz
It's been a long time but didn't the TuneSquad beat the Monstars?
And the Warriors drafted 3 studs and won a ring and attracted another stud to their already winning team. So not like those others.
And for decades, everyone wanted to play for the Lakers, so in the event off 2 similar contract offers, the Lakers won out. Now, everyone is making generational money in a single year, so the $$ is like 4th or 5th on the list of deciding factors. Playing for winner, with friends, in a nice area, and in a good system are all at least comparable to the $$.
The Dubs can offer all of those (including the $$). Why WOULDN’T the stars chose GS right now?
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