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Could Earl Return?

Discussion in 'Seattle Seahawks' started by Seahawks_3, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. seattlefan75

    seattlefan75 Well-Known Member

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    Well I was referring to more as an overall team getting better, yeah in the little time Jimmy G has played he has been average and also lets be humble we did lose to a 49er team that had a 3rd string QB
     



  2. Judge Fudge

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    I doubt he will. He probably wants to be on a contender. Not one who if they makes big splashes, they might be one.

    Dallas, Pittsburgh, New England or Cleveland are my bets. Cleveland is their a few peices from being a threat but they got the cap to spend
     
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    Where In your Opinion

    Edge Rusher
    CB
    S
    OLB (could be combined with Edge)
    WR
    OL( can't have enough healthy OL)
    TE

    are needs IMO
     
  4. MrSnuggles2k2

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    OL/DE 1a and 1b
    OLB - replace KJ Wright (this should have been vander esch last year)
    FS- replace Thomas
    CB- bring some competition for griffin
    TE- if Dissley wont be back on time (or at all)
    WR- sure, we could use more WRs but I doubt we take one with only 4 picks
     
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    I think that if we go Edge ( and get a decent one) 1st. It will take heat, double team, off of Clark.

    Thus more production
     
  6. seattlefan75

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    I think the key thing is getting that winning mentality we will never go back to the super bowl unless we beat the rams and winning the NFC West. What I really liked this season was that we had some quality wins against green bay, Carolina, Dallas, and two very close games that could have gone either way against the Rams. Frank Clark said they wanted to beat Dallas and were very very excited to hyped to play LA a 3rd time around. I liked how they aren't at all intimidated by them.

    I think we should spend a lot of our resources on defense and be a top 3 or 5 unit again
     
  7. MrSnuggles2k2

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    clearly goff folds like a cheap suit if he gets a little bit of pressure on him.

    im torn between going pass rush or OL in the first. either way I dont want a trade down, im tired of losing out on superior talent for quantity.
     
  8. jerseyhawksfan79

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    Our o-line should improve more under Solari again next season. Invest on another edge rusher.
     
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    i totally agree with this post. I also believe that the Inside play on the Dline will also improve. Most of those guys are young and will only get better. I don't think they need to use a high pick on a DT or Oline. DE/CB/S are needs also WR needs a big guy ( 6 foot 2+, 220+ pounds with 4.45-4.5 no slower than 4.5 speed.) But this team might also need a OLB depending on what happens in FA with the guys on the roster now.

    Vannett is a solid TE for how this team plays ( they don't use them much other than blocking ) and Dissly if he returns. Fingers crossed on Dissly

    FA will tell us a lot. If the Hawks lose Both Sweezy and Flucker in FA then yeah they need a Guard. Jones played well before he got hurt and looks like he will be a good one but he is a tackle.
     
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    If we are building this offense around russell and expect penny to be effective, we need a better OL. penny isnt a tough inside runner, he needs a good OL. resting on our laurels would be a HUGE mistake if you ask me.
     
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    Going 1 draft with out picking a oline is not resting on your laurels when you only have 4 picks. Let your improved Oline COACHING do it's job, there are 10 Olineman on the team right now. Also Right now with 4 picks, that they Might be able to turn into 5, there are much greater needs as far as talent goes or lack there of. A in the box safety is a HUGE need, DE is a HUGE need, Outside LB is a HUGE need and so is CB. The Hawks are also pretty thin at WR. You got Baldwin and Lockett and no one else really and no young guys to groom other than Moore and right now he is hit or miss. Hawks are better off at the Oline right now but that could change with FA movement but right now they don't need any and i trust Solari could turn UDFA into quality Olineman something Cable couldn't do with HIGH draft picks. Also i am sure they could find some Olineman in FA that other teams let walk. I trust Solari way WAY more than i EVER trusted Cable.

    wait they do have a young WR on the team that if you can't see his number you would swear it was Baldwin on the field by how he plays and moves but i forgot what his name was.
     
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  12. MrSnuggles2k2

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    i believe in solari, but again, if we are going to protect our $30 million QB and let our first round RB develop, we NEED quality OL and by all accounts there will be several very good ones when we pick.

    im done with playing scrubs.

    look at the lines solari has coached, the niners OL under harbaugh was the best in the league by far and it was full of 1st round talent. sure we can have a middle of the road OL with scrubs, but forget that lets get one highly talented guy at least. thats all i want.
     
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  13. jerseyhawksfan79

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    The FO will probably trade back for additional picks and FA should net at least one major need but I don't think they'll go spending crazy with Russ's contract extension on the horizon. Which is why I think o-line doesn't need to be addressed this draft. Fist pick should go to edge rusher and second pick to a WR. Of course that could change after FA.
     
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    Seattle had the top rated running game and Russ actually had time to throw which probably confused the hell out of him since he isn't used to it. What I saw was the opposing QB with too much time to pass. Too me, this is more important then o-line this year.
     
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    We had the top running game, and it got shut down completely by a good defense in the playoffs.

    i dont think OL should ever go unaddressed in any draft honestly. WR can be ignored, we have young guys that havent had enough time to prove themselves.

    OL and DE should be our top priorities.
     
  16. jerseyhawksfan79

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    Our running game got shut down cause the play calling was horrid and all they did was run the ball. Could have been different game if the play calling was way different and let Russ do his thing.

    Normally I agree drafting o-linemen but since the FO has very few picks to work with, the team needs to address the bigger concerns and one of them actually isn't the o-line. Can't believe I actually said that.
     
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    absolutely correct Jerseyhawksfan79, They took the ball out of the best player on the teams hands and tried to force the run game against a team that stacked up and sold out to stop the run. We saw it all year long in games where they were just over doing it with the run game. Also the Hawks lost to the Cowboys because the Defense allowed them to score 14 points in the 4th Quarter with a lack of pressure on Dak and the 3-4 redzone conversions for TD didn't help. If not for KJ's INT the Cowboys might have ended up 4-4 in the redzone.

    The Hawks offense wasn't all that bad in the Dallas game other than 90% of the runs lol but that D couldn't stop anyone in the 4th quarter. Need a better pass rush or average QB's ( Like Dak ) will destroy this team. The Hawks just kept trying to pound the damn ball and it just wasn't working and were to hard headed to go with what WAS work and that was Wilson.

    Dallas Had a worse Pass D than they did a Rush D which was ranked 4th in the NFL and they should have attacked that more. But no, instead they just rammed their heads into a stout Run D over and over and over again. the Hawks OVER committed to the run last season.
     
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    When a teams passing stats are 6th in Yards per attempt and 27th in Yards per game and the QB is 3rd in the NFL in QB rating that tells you right there they were not using the passing game as much as they should have. They totally hamstrung the effectiveness of this team by over doing it in the run game. I would have rather seen the running game around 5th and the passing game around 12-15th.
     
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    I think everyone here has it backwards it is the defense that we need to fix and use resources on. They were 16th in the league in pass defense, 13th in the league in rush defense, and 16th in the league in total defense.

    We need to get this defense back in the top 5 and not even touch the offense. We were #1 in the league in rushing and russ look efficient passing and had a cleaner pocket. I have said for 3 years the only thing the hawks need to do is get the run game back to top 5 status and we will be good while everyone was screaming about how old the defense was. I am saying right now if we can get our defense back to top 5 we are back on super bowl watch
     
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    everyones got it backwards? only a few think we need to fix the offense/offensive line. We do need to fix the piss poor one sided play calling on offense though. Hawks need in no order a in the box Safety, CB, OLB, DE before they even think about Offensive side of the ball.
     
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