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Comparing Mariner Starting pitchers to the rest of the league

PolarVortex

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ERA
Logan Gilbert - 6th
Marco - 22nd
Flexen - 25th
Robbie Fassero - 29th

WHIP
Logan Gilbert - 13th
Marco - 27th
Flexen - 28th
Robbie Fassero - 29th

BAA
Logan - 6th
Robbie Fassero - 21st
Marco - 24th
Flexen - 27th

K
Robbie Fassero - 5th
Logan - 10th
Flexen - 19th
Marco - not in top 30

BB
Robbie Fassero - 2nd
Flexen - 11th
Logan - 21st
Marco - 22nd

HR allowed
Robbie Fassero - 2nd
Marco - 5th
Flexen - 10th
Logan - 47th
 

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At a glance those stats align with my thoughts:

1. Our pitching staff is adequate / on par as a whole unit in comparison to the middle tier of MLB clubs.
Could it be better ... yes. Ray is a huge disappointment that sadly I think his numbers do not improve much all season.
Sure he is going to have a few solid starts. I sure as hell hope so that out of 30 starts he throws 4-5 really good games.

2. Mariners simply do not score enough runs. We have a drop off the cliff once we roll to the bottom 1/3rd of our line up.
MONEY is the only quick fix for this. And spending it wisely. Kelenic - nor Haniger nor Lewis will help this club over the hump and into the playoff promise land. Everyone else top 6 spots in the line up likely hold serve. I see a slight drop off in both France and Crawfords numbers at some point. Nothing too serious though. Winkler may wake up and increase his avg by maybe .030 - but that is no certainty. He is not an all star - yea he got the t-shirt, but it was a fluke dream vacation. As for his HR ability ? hahahaha He has warning track power at best. If he hits 12 bombs I
will be very surprised.

3. Servais simply does not know how to hit and run or bunt to advance guys over or safety squeeze bunt in a run from 3rd in a critical situation.
So many games have been lost due to his lack of creating a situation to get a run across the plate in a critical situation.

4. our bullpen is up and down. No consistency at all. But going with the hot hand seems to be working the past week or 2. That is a risky game to play all season long.
 

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Doing #2 and #3 above would help our pitching staff greatly achieve better stat numbers.

Every nite they take the ball they are fed to the wolves knowing any single run they give up is a run the M's offense likely will have a hard time getting back for them.

That creates pressure situations that take a toll on the pitcher over the course of a 5-6 inning outing or a relief appearance knowing they are down a run or 2 late in the game.

Seems like every early lead we do get lately is squandered away within 1-2 innings.
 

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the mariners are a better rotation than last yeaar..

ray
gilbert
gonzales
flexen
kerby

Nick Margevicius 50...he is at tacoma...and working...that alone..is a good thing....on his good days hes..good...so we will see...
he is a proto left handed 5th starter....so..we will see...
if he can get up and do that........just for eye ball..we will put him up in there to see what it looks like

ray...................LH
gilbert
gonzales..LH
flexen
Margevicius...LH.....he can be better than anderson..from pitt
kerby

Matt Brash
Taylor Dollard 41
Levi Stoudt 21
Emerson Hancock 33
Roenis Elías 55
 
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Penn Murfee 56..could start if needed..
aqua sox
BryceMiller
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EVE311.8898000048.02911101315670.92.170
IsaiahCampbell
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EVE101.3564000020.01033209190.95.147

moving right along...afore from dsl..

JuanMercedes
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EVE333.8665110032.2251614428401.01.205
PrelanderBerroa
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EVE123.2055000019.214870115281.47.203
0-2...3.99 era

AdamMacko
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EVE023.9988000038.13318174420601.38.234
11
JimmyKingsbury
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EVE105.401100005.064300021.20.273

hes not start yet..but i know he can.........ok hes 1 start at aqua

miller and cambell will be ready soon
 

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ERA
Logan Gilbert - 6th
Marco - 22nd
Flexen - 25th
Robbie Fassero - 29th

WHIP
Logan Gilbert - 13th
Marco - 27th
Flexen - 28th
Robbie Fassero - 29th

BAA
Logan - 6th
Robbie Fassero - 21st
Marco - 24th
Flexen - 27th

K
Robbie Fassero - 5th
Logan - 10th
Flexen - 19th
Marco - not in top 30

BB
Robbie Fassero - 2nd
Flexen - 11th
Logan - 21st
Marco - 22nd

HR allowed
Robbie Fassero - 2nd
Marco - 5th
Flexen - 10th
Logan - 47th
Hey PolarVortex- Thank you for researching and posting that data on where our pitchers stand in the League in those areas. Really interesting to see it in "black and white"- Thanks again. :thumb: :suds:
 

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they have more potential starters..at aqua...but if..they dont make it as starters...they will be bull pen..

agreed on polarvorts stats...........



..hey like it says...


.im a rocket booster....lololo

and with both..we can..see the full scope...
 
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i realy hate..these

BB
Robbie Fassero - 2nd
Flexen - 11th
Logan - 21st
Marco - 22nd


HR allowed
Robbie Fassero - 2nd

this is not good...but they do happen..

on that..robbie could have..saved..4 runs agaist astros....maybe..
 

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hate is not a solution...

ignoring the prob..is not a soultion either

hard work...can..doit..and make it..

its not the solutioon every time...but it can get you through rough times..
 
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