College Football Playoff Rankings Discussion

[navamind]

FCS week!!!

Don't you hate on the long storied rivalry that is Alabama-Eastern Illinois!

 

[963BUSC]

I personally think ND is better and would win in a rematch, but as long as they have the same record Miami should be ahead.

All true, currently ND wins the eye test, but you can't go against the H2H.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

aren't you a tad better at QB which is really important?

Team offense is better

2024 (13 games)
Passing: 61.7%, 129yds per game 12TD 13 INT
Rushing: 157 rushing yds per game, 18TD’s

2025 (10 games)
Passing: 60.5% 195ypg 7 TD 6 INT
Rushing: 223ypg, 28 TD’s

Team Defense is similar per game
2024: 19.9ppg 216yds pass, 91 yds run
2025: 20.9ppg, 202yds pass, 96 yds run

We will also need to hope we are just being cautious with our injuries as we have some guys out who are kind of good.

Our stud RB Haynes is out for the year
OL and LT out for the year
S Rod Moore out

6 starting freshman on offense
3-4 on defense

You guys should win..

 

[dtgold88]

Team offense is better

2024 (13 games)
Passing: 61.7%, 129yds per game 12TD 13 INT
Rushing: 157 rushing yds per game, 18TD’s

2025 (10 games)
Passing: 60.5% 195ypg 7 TD 6 INT
Rushing: 223ypg, 28 TD’s

Team Defense is similar per game
2024: 19.9ppg 216yds pass, 91 yds run
2025: 20.9ppg, 202yds pass, 96 yds run

Our stud RB Haynes is out for the year
OL and LT out for the year
S Rod Moore out

6 starting freshman on offense
3-4 on defense

You guys should win..

we definitely should win but I'd be willing to bet a lot we wont be favored by nearly as much as last season (20+ if memory serves?).

 

[fightinfunbags]

Why is Miami behind ND again?

Because SMU and Louisville are deemed bad losses. The ACC should really only be a one bid conference anyway.

 

[dtgold88]

Because SMU and Louisville are deemed bad losses. The ACC should really only be a one bid conference anyway.

Not sure how many bids ACC should get (don't necessarily disagree only 1 seems right) but it's funny how fans will go back and forth on what matters - big wins or bad losses - depending on their argument. Not saying that's what you are doing here as I agree with you.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Not sure how many bids ACC should get (don't necessarily disagree only 1 seems right) but it's funny how fans will go back and forth on what matters - big wins or bad losses - depending on their argument. Not saying that's what you are doing here as I agree with you.

Part of that is because the committee over the entire time of the playoffs has gone back and forth every year.

They need set qualifications that everyone knows about, and honestly, should also release a pre-season ranking and do this more than just the last third of the season.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Not sure how many bids ACC should get (don't necessarily disagree only 1 seems right) but it's funny how fans will go back and forth on what matters - big wins or bad losses - depending on their argument. Not saying that's what you are doing here as I agree with you.

I thought the committee representative on tv Tuesday night explained it best. Currently Miami and Notre Dame are viewed by the committee in different tiers. If Miami does enough to get in the same tier with ND they left open the possibility Miami could leap frog ND because of that head to head.

You talked about who you beat vs who you lost to but a dynamic you haven’t mentioned is the timing of losses. Early losses seem to be more easily forgiven than later losses. Notre Dame hasn’t lost since September 13th. I would imagine when the committee looks at ND they see two factors in those early losses - a freshmen ND QB making start 1 and 2 of his career and improving since that time coupled with games 1 and 2 of a new defensive coordinator replacing 6-7 starters on that side of the ball which has also been much improved in that time.

I think the best argument for ND is this - have you watched them? If you’ve watched them you’ve seen a team on a steady arc of improvement who is currently playing like a top 5 team in the country. They definitely belong in a 12 team playoff if they finish 10-2

 

[dtgold88]

Part of that is because the committee over the entire time of the playoffs has gone back and forth every year.

They need set qualifications that everyone knows about, and honestly, should also release a pre-season ranking and do this more than just the last third of the season.

It seems the committee values CCG wins and just overall record quite a bit.

Preseason ranking? What would that be based on for them with no data points?

 

[dtgold88]

I thought the committee representative on tv Tuesday night explained it best. Currently Miami and Notre Dame are viewed by the committee in different tiers. If Miami does enough to get in the same tier with ND they left open the possibility Miami could leap frog ND because of that head to head.

You talked about who you beat vs who you lost to but a dynamic you haven’t mentioned is the timing of losses. Early losses seem to be more easily forgiven than later losses. Notre Dame hasn’t lost since September 13th. I would imagine when the committee looks at ND they see two factors in those early losses - a freshmen ND QB making start 1 and 2 of his career and improving since that time coupled with games 1 and 2 of a new defensive coordinator replacing 6-7 starters on that side of the ball which has also been much improved in that time.

I think the best argument for ND is this - have you watched them? If you’ve watched them you’ve seen a team on a steady arc of improvement who is currently playing like a top 5 team in the country. They definitely belong in a 12 team playoff if they finish 10-2

Losing early compared to late seems to be no different than when all we had was AP/coaches polling. ND might very well be a top 5 team but what I see is a team who since losing those 2 games has played 1 team with a pulse and their tough games were early (and they lost).

Agree no more losses they should be in the CFP.

 

[idseer]

Why is Miami behind ND again?

because today nd would beat miami by at least 10. and the voters agree.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Losing early compared to late seems to be no different than when all we had was AP/coaches polling. ND might very well be a top 5 team but what I see is a team who since losing those 2 games has played 1 team with a pulse and their tough games were early (and they lost).

Agree no more losses they should be in the CFP.

That’s one more team with a pulse than Oregon has played all season until tomorrow.

 

[dtgold88]

That’s one more team with a pulse than Oregon has played all season until tomorrow.

k....but I'd say 2. Indiana and Iowa.

 

[fightinfunbags]

k....but I'd say 2. Indiana and Iowa.

My fault. I should have said beaten. Indiana is legit. Iowa is still Iowa

 

[dtgold88]

My fault. I should have said beaten. Indiana is legit. Iowa is still Iowa

I'd say Iowa legit....very least might bore the opponent to death.

 

[Ron G]

So, Alabama's loss to Florida State is looking worse and worse.

 

[Ron G]

I personally think ND is better and would win in a rematch, but as long as they have the same record Miami should be ahead.

Miami's same record is true as long as you count the win against Bethune-Cookman as important. In my opinion playing FCS teams is a coward's way out to avoid a potential loss.

 

[963BUSC]

because today nd would beat miami by at least 10. and the voters agree.

The game was played though and ND didn't

 

[ThomasTomasz]

It seems the committee values CCG wins and just overall record quite a bit.

Preseason ranking? What would that be based on for them with no data points?

At some point, I think we’re going to see the conferences do away with conference championship games, and instead rely on the old BigXII way that they had to do when they didn’t have a “full” conference.

While there are no data points for the season, I think the committee could put together a composite list based on a variety of factors. If not a pre-season list, they could do rankings after Week 1

 

[Ron G]

The game was played though and ND didn't

That is true, but Florida State was left out because of the injured QB. The decision was based (unfairly to be sure) on what were the best teams at that moment in time. If Lane Kiffin left Ole Miss today, the same logic would knock them out.