Changes to the Game

[MilkSpiller22]

I think tying the penalties to draft picks is the way to go (on top of a “tax”, of course).

For example, if you exceed the first benchmark, your first pick is dropped 15 spots in the next draft. If you do it a second year, your first 2 picks are dropped 20 spots. If you exceed the 2nd benchmark, then you lose your first pick entirely and the 2nd pick is dropped 15 spots instead. Something like that.

As for smaller market teams having trouble attracting the big names, I don’t know there is a way to fix that. A big name in LA or NY will have many more marketing opportunities than a big name in Cleveland or Tampa or Minneapolis. There is no way to get around that.

baseball is the only sport where you cant trade draft spots... not saying you made any reference to that... just needed to preface that to make the point about why i dont think draft picks is a good enough penalty/equalizer... elite teams are not going to care about how late a pick is... especially in baseball where there is so much variance in player success, where the the spot they were taken is almost irrelevant...

if you want to do the draft thing, then teams would need to forfeit their pick at the very least...

 

[dtgold88]

I think tying the penalties to draft picks is the way to go (on top of a “tax”, of course).

For example, if you exceed the first benchmark, your first pick is dropped 15 spots in the next draft. If you do it a second year, your first 2 picks are dropped 20 spots. If you exceed the 2nd benchmark, then you lose your first pick entirely and the 2nd pick is dropped 15 spots instead. Something like that.

As for smaller market teams having trouble attracting the big names, I don’t know there is a way to fix that. A big name in LA or NY will have many more marketing opportunities than a big name in Cleveland or Tampa or Minneapolis. There is no way to get around that.

This is definitely true but I'm confident IF our owner would spend and show he wanted to win FAs would come here. Different time but didn't have trouble getting guys we wanted under previous ownership.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

This is definitely true but I'm confident IF our owner would spend and show he wanted to win FAs would come here. Different time but didn't have trouble getting guys we wanted under previous ownership.

you would have to wait until cleveland becomes a WS contender... not just a MAYBE win the division team and get bounced in the first round... then players will want to come...

 

[calsnowskier]

baseball is the only sport where you cant trade draft spots... not saying you made any reference to that... just needed to preface that to make the point about why i dont think draft picks is a good enough penalty/equalizer... elite teams are not going to care about how late a pick is... especially in baseball where there is so much variance in player success, where the the spot they were taken is almost irrelevant...

if you want to do the draft thing, then teams would need to forfeit their pick at the very least...

All good points.

One reason why I have been playing with the idea of abandoning the draft entirely in favor of just a signing pool instead. Each team would get a pool amount based on their performance from the previous season. ALL non-affiliated amateurs would need to be signed through this pool (some minimum would be exempt for each player, of course). HS kids, college kids, Latin kids, Asians coming over…. All would be part of this class.

 

[dtgold88]

you would have to wait until cleveland becomes a WS contender... not just a MAYBE win the division team and get bounced in the first round... then players will want to come...

sure....but thinking if we can be a legit playoff team nearly every season spending so little if the owner decided to try we could be a legit title team or even among the favorites.

Will say might be easier to bring in high priced FAs if Tito were still here as I suspect players really like playing for him....nothing against Vogt as he's been great so far.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

All good points.

One reason why I have been playing with the idea of abandoning the draft entirely in favor of just a signing pool instead. Each team would get a pool amount based on their performance from the previous season. ALL non-affiliated amateurs would need to be signed through this pool (some minimum would be exempt for each player, of course). HS kids, college kids, Latin kids, Asians coming over…. All would be part of this class.

nothing wrong with the draft... and i do think that by shrinking the Minor leagues, it makes the draft more important...

problem really is the analysis on players... they care more about the 5 tools than the one or two tools that matter most...

but the draft does need to include international players... i still dont understand why it never was... it makes no sense... the weirder thing about it, international signing bonus isnt even that much...