Blair Walsh kicks like a scared little B*tch!!

[blstoker]

But he wasn't worth the money to keep in Seattle

Well, to be fair Hausch is being paid much less by Buffalo than it was expected that Seattle would have had to pay to keep him. It’s really easy to say after the fact that he would’ve been worth the $4 million per, but it’s not like Hausch didn’t give plenty of reasons last year why they didn’t want to pay that much.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well, to be fair Hausch is being paid much less by Buffalo than it was expected that Seattle would have had to pay to keep him. It’s really easy to say after the fact that he would’ve been worth the $4 million per, but it’s not like Hausch didn’t give plenty of reasons last year why they didn’t want to pay that much.

You pay kickers that are generally in the top 5 top dollars cause they're the ones that are clutch. I was all for giving him the 4 mil a year cause great kickers are difficult to come by. Yes he had a down year but so was the rest of the team.

 

[seattlefan75]

you cant blame everything on the kicker there are so many things to address with this team I would be a lot of money if he we had a better kicker we would be doing better as a team. We have no rushing offense, our defense whom sucks all the cap space and has 9 pro bowlers is barely ranked top 10 in the league and I believe we are breaking records in penalties we are actually kinda lucky we are still in the playoff race

 

[dude82]

You pay kickers that are generally in the top 5 top dollars cause they're the ones that are clutch. I was all for giving him the 4 mil a year cause great kickers are difficult to come by. Yes he had a down year but so was the rest of the team.

You might have been all for it, but I got the sense that a lot of people were not. Kickers in general seem to be the football equivalent to relief pitchers in terms of how often they're replaced from year-to-year and how effective they can be from year-to-year. Hauschka had an objectively terrible year last year and he was asking for a certain amount of money at the time that I'm sure the Hawks were unwilling to pay to a guy who had had such a bad year and a price that they were convinced he wouldn't come down from.

I think that if the Hawks had chosen to stick with Hauschka and given him the contract he was asking for at the time, and he continued to stink like he stunk last year, it would have prevented the Seahawks from doing some of the things they've been able to do during the season because the cap would have been a lot tighter and it would have been harder to justify cutting him and taking on that much dead money on top of having to pay more to replace him. Hauschka is so far proving last year to be a fluke, but I don't think, at the time, the Seahawks could have taken that chance based on what they saw last year.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

You might have been all for it, but I got the sense that a lot of people were not. Kickers in general seem to be the football equivalent to relief pitchers in terms of how often they're replaced from year-to-year and how effective they can be from year-to-year. Hauschka had an objectively terrible year last year and he was asking for a certain amount of money at the time that I'm sure the Hawks were unwilling to pay to a guy who had had such a bad year and a price that they were convinced he wouldn't come down from.

I think that if the Hawks had chosen to stick with Hauschka and given him the contract he was asking for at the time, and he continued to stink like he stunk last year, it would have prevented the Seahawks from doing some of the things they've been able to do during the season because the cap would have been a lot tighter and it would have been harder to justify cutting him and taking on that much dead money on top of having to pay more to replace him. Hauschka is so far proving last year to be a fluke, but I don't think, at the time, the Seahawks could have taken that chance based on what they saw last year.

Instead of giving Lacy the money the FO could have offered Haush a 1yr prove it deal at 4 mil. If he sucked this year then they could move on.

 

[dude82]

Instead of giving Lacy the money the FO could have offered Haush a 1yr prove it deal at 4 mil. If he sucked this year then they could move on.

They might've if they were confident that Rawls (or someone else) could take that job and literally run with it. That uncertainty caused them to go out and get a veteran who they thought could at least hold the fort down while they waited for Rawls or Prosise or whoever to take over. I can't blame them for wanting to reinforce a position that has seen its share of bad play and/or bad injury luck. It just hasn't worked out the way they'd hoped it would.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

They might've if they were confident that Rawls (or someone else) could take that job and literally run with it. That uncertainty caused them to go out and get a veteran who they thought could at least hold the fort down while they waited for Rawls or Prosise or whoever to take over. I can't blame them for wanting to reinforce a position that has seen its share of bad play and/or bad injury luck. It just hasn't worked out the way they'd hoped it would.

I agree the run game needed help but that position is an easier fix then trying to fix the FG game cause of one down year.

 

[blstoker]

I agree the run game needed help but that position is an easier fix then trying to fix the FG game cause of one down year.

Well, to be fair - it was 3 down(ish) years.....

2014 - 83.8% field goals (including 6 missed from 40+)
2015 - 4 missed PATs
2016 - 7 missed PATs, 2 missed FG under 30 and missed 2 game on the line attempts.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well, to be fair - it was 3 down(ish) years.....

2014 - 83.8% field goals (including 6 missed from 40+)
2015 - 4 missed PATs
2016 - 7 missed PATs, 2 missed FG under 30 and missed 2 game on the line attempts.

Exactly, don't get this " we should of resigned Hausch" he has been trending down. Course I thought the Seahawks would go with a rookie kicker with a big leg, rather then recycle a vet. Next year bet they do.

 

[blstoker]

Exactly, don't get this " we should of resigned Hausch" he has been trending down. Course I thought the Seahawks would go with a rookie kicker with a big leg, rather then recycle a vet. Next year bet they do.

Yeah, I don't see Walsh coming back next year, unless he somehow completely turns it around and hits some really big kicks and can show he's got at least 55 yard range.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Well, to be fair - it was 3 down(ish) years.....

2014 - 83.8% field goals (including 6 missed from 40+)
2015 - 4 missed PATs
2016 - 7 missed PATs, 2 missed FG under 30 and missed 2 game on the line attempts.

2014. 83%
2015. 93%
2016. 89%

or

2014. 74%
2015. 87%
2016. 75%

Who do you prefer?

 

[blstoker]

2014. 83%
2015. 93%
2016. 89%

or

2014. 74%
2015. 87%
2016. 75%

Who do you prefer?

$4 million Cap

or

$800,000 cap

Sometimes, it really isn't about who you prefer to have.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

$4 million Cap

or

$800,000 cap

Sometimes, it really isn't about who you prefer to have.

4 mil cap for 1 yr prove it deal over money spent on Lacy

 

[HaroldSeattle]

4 mil cap for 1 yr prove it deal over money spent on Lacy

Seahawks needed to try to add to injury prone RB corp, they added a vet and drafted a RB ( Carson). Had to be done and just because it didn't work out does not mean it was a bad idea. Sometimes the football gods lay a curse on you.

 

[blstoker]

4 mil cap for 1 yr prove it deal over money spent on Lacy

Meh. It isn't that cut and dry, and since Lacy is 1 of 3 healthy backs on the roster right now - it's not really that bad a signing (even if he isn't reaching his 800 yard rushing bonus).

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Seahawks needed to try to add to injury prone RB corp, they added a vet and drafted a RB ( Carson). Had to be done and just because it didn't work out does not mean it was a bad idea. Sometimes the football gods lay a curse on you.

But you don't add a fat slow RB. GB knew to cut bait and Seattle should have stayed away. The football Gods are kicking the hell out of this team.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Meh. It isn't that cut and dry, and since Lacy is 1 of 3 healthy backs on the roster right now - it's not really that bad a signing (even if he isn't reaching his 800 yard rushing bonus).

I guess I see it a different way.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

But you don't add a fat slow RB. GB knew to cut bait and Seattle should have stayed away. The football Gods are kicking the hell out of this team.

Yes he always had a weigh problem, but yet he still had a couple 1000 yards seasons and he’s only 27. Personally felt it was a decent gamble.

 

[blstoker]

I guess I see it a different way.

Well, of course you do - cause the conversation wouldn't be happening if we saw it the same way....

I wanted Seattle to stick with Rawls and didn't care for the Lacy signing - but in honesty, it really doesn't matter who is back there as long as this line can't consistently open holes. I didn't mind bringing in Walsh, cause he was low cost, high reward signing where Hausch was a high cost option who was appearing to trend down. Sometimes you roll the dice. The team spent lots of money this off-season to fix the running game - it hasn't worked - but that doesn't mean that the money spent was worth spending.

Maybe Seattle drafts Daniel Carson in the first round this year......

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Yes he always had a weigh problem, but yet he still had a couple 1000 yards seasons and he’s only 27. Personally felt it was a decent gamble.

The buffets are the winners in this deal.