Bill Russell shouldn't be on anyone's top 10 list.

[Bart]

Seriously. The guy played against midgets and failed to dominate offensively. If I played against a bunch of elementary school kids, I could dominate both offensively and defensively. I think fans should apply some reasoning before compiling their top 10 list, it would ensure some legitimacy to these lists instead of being the mockery they have become by including Russell. I’d don’t want to see any dissenting views in this thread either because it would be damn embarrassment to this board for any poster to endorse Russell as a top 10 player.

 

[blazer prophet]

He was good. Really good, but he's not on my top 10 list.

 

[Bart]

He was good. Really good, but he's not on my top 10 list.

You're a smart dude.

 

[Gman]

Bill Russell at a glance:

• 2 time NCAA Champion
• 11 time NBA Champion
• 5 time NBA MVP
• Led the league in rebounding 4 times
• 2nd all time in both total rebounds and rebounds per game
• Career regular season averages of 15 ppg, 22.5 rpg and 4.3 apg
• Career playoff averages of 16 ppg, 25 rpg and 4.7 apg

Blocks weren't tracked in his era, which is a shame. No doubt he would be right towards the tops in this category.

Dude is perhaps the ultimate winner in the history of the game.

Is he top 10, or "merely" top 15?... ... not sure that's an argument that we need to destroy each other over.

 

[flyerhawk]

I hate the Celtics but there is no question that Bill Russell is a top 10 player.

 

[Gman]

I hate the Celtics but there is no question that Bill Russell is a top 10 player.

But he was more physically gifted than the vast majority of the guys he played against, that's the reason he was so good!

That, like, doesn't count man.

 

[realityball]

Wilt Chamberlain would be the first pick on my team ... and Russell was all over that ... so ... there’s that ...

 

[Bart]

Bill Russell at a glance:

• 2 time NCAA Champion
• 11 time NBA Champion
• 5 time NBA MVP
• Led the league in rebounding 4 times
• 2nd all time in both total rebounds and rebounds per game
• Career regular season averages of 15 ppg, 22.5 rpg and 4.3 apg
• Career playoff averages of 16 ppg, 25 rpg and 4.7 apg

Blocks weren't tracked in his era, which is a shame. No doubt he would be right towards the tops in this category.

Dude is perhaps the ultimate winner in the history of the game.

Is he top 10, or "merely" top 15?... ... not sure that's an argument that we need to destroy each other over.

All can be attributed to playing against midgets.

 

[Bart]

Wilt Chamberlain would be the first pick on my team ... and Russell was all over that ... so ... there’s that ...

Russell's teams were always stacked.

 

[Gman]

All can be attributed to playing against midgets.

So... being physically gifted relative to the competition means "no countsies" in the book of @LebronLakers?

 

[tnapucco]

 

[Bart]

So... being physically gifted relative to the competition means "no countsies" in the book of @LebronLakers?

How would his physical gifts stack up against today's players? On an all time list you have to factor that in.

 

[GNG]

Seriously. The guy played against midgets and failed to dominate offensively. If I played against a bunch of elementary school kids, I could dominate both offensively and defensively. I think fans should apply some reasoning before compiling their top 10 list, it would ensure some legitimacy to these lists instead of being the mockery they have become by including Russell. I’d don’t want to see any dissenting views in this thread either because it would be damn embarrassment to this board for any poster to endorse Russell as a top 10 player.

He played against Wilt Chamberlain in his prime.

 

[Gman]

How would his physical gifts stack up against today's players? On an all time list you have to factor that in.

It's one facet of the classic problem of comparing different eras.

 

[GNG]

How would his physical gifts stack up against today's players? On an all time list you have to factor that in.

Most of today's players are a bunch of pansies.

 

[msgkings322]

Seriously. The guy played against midgets and failed to dominate offensively. If I played against a bunch of elementary school kids, I could dominate both offensively and defensively. I think fans should apply some reasoning before compiling their top 10 list, it would ensure some legitimacy to these lists instead of being the mockery they have become by including Russell. I’d don’t want to see any dissenting views in this thread either because it would be damn embarrassment to this board for any poster to endorse Russell as a top 10 player.

 

[Bart]

He played against Wilt Chamberlain in his prime.

Including Bill and Wilt there were only 4 players over 6'8". His toughest test was Wilt but Bill had a much superior team most of the time when they met.

 

[BostonBlackie]

One of the midgets Russell played against.

 

[GNG]

Wilt Chamberlain would be the first pick on my team ... and Russell was all over that ... so ... there’s that ...

Wilt banged over 2,000 women which may be an all-time record.

 

[msgkings322]

He played against Wilt Chamberlain in his prime.

True but to be fair, that's it for competition.