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I wish we could go back to just college football circa 1999-2006 rules, where players could work at car dealerships.
Long before 1999-2006...
 

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I'm not sure how any of those change the game? Those are all things that could be worked out in negotiations with any player's union that exists. And I'm also pretty sure scholarships will be part of their compensation for playing. You can say "if you're getting paid you shouldn't get a scholarship" until you're blue in the face, but that won't probably be a realistic outcome. Kids are removed from teams, removed from scholarships, greyshirted as is. I'm sure schools would find loopholes just hte same to "fire" a kid but I doubt it would be viewed as being fired.

Most likely you'll see some sort of revenue share in the next couple of decades; combined with scholarships, housing, and food that they already get. Along with what's coming, the ability to make money on likeness. I'm not sure how title IX would come into play, but I'm not sure it would violate Title IX to say "Athletes get 25% equally split of revenue generated by their own sport, all athletes get 10% of the overall AD revenue". If your sport gets no revenue you don't get paid. Pretty simple actually.

WOW, that last few sentences is really sexist. I’m appalled. You’re disgusting.
 

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If they want to be paid, fine, but at that point nothing is given to you, period

tuition, books, tutors, equipment, food, transportation to games (including charge them for airfare)

if a typical student has to pay, then athletes have to pay
 

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If a women’s sport doesn’t make money you don’t get paid is one of the most terrible things ever. Women have feelings too!

Equality is a bitch.
 

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I don't believe players will be paid directly by schools...but...

elite (5-stars & high 4-stars) high school players will probably by-pass college altogether and play for the XFL or CFL straight out of high school. Once these young stand out players prove themselves in the XFL & CFL for a couple years, they will move on to the NFL.

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson probably saw the writing on the wall and purchased the XFL for $15 million a couple days ago prior to it going to auction.
Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson buys XFL for $15 million


I actually like the idea of the elite high school players going immediately to the XFL & CFL because that should even the college recruiting playing field a little bit, hopefully creating a smaller talent gap between teams within a conference. Then we should see more competitive games, and perhaps more college teams would have a better chance at high level success instead of the usual elite programs year after year.
 

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Won't be over, just changed. I don't think if players start getting paid, start getting more medical insurance, maybe even take fewer classes, that it really changes much. Most of that stuff is happening behind the scenes anyway. It formalized it.
A friend of mine from high school played big-time college basketball in the ACC. They arranged their classes so they took a heavy load in the fall quarter (yes, it was quarters back then), almost nothing during the winter (aka the season) and half-load in the spring (tourney time) then summer to make up the difference.

Much more difficult with semesters now.
 

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I'm not sure how any of those change the game? Those are all things that could be worked out in negotiations with any player's union that exists. And I'm also pretty sure scholarships will be part of their compensation for playing. You can say "if you're getting paid you shouldn't get a scholarship" until you're blue in the face, but that won't probably be a realistic outcome. Kids are removed from teams, removed from scholarships, greyshirted as is. I'm sure schools would find loopholes just hte same to "fire" a kid but I doubt it would be viewed as being fired.

Most likely you'll see some sort of revenue share in the next couple of decades; combined with scholarships, housing, and food that they already get. Along with what's coming, the ability to make money on likeness. I'm not sure how title IX would come into play, but I'm not sure it would violate Title IX to say "Athletes get 25% equally split of revenue generated by their own sport, all athletes get 10% of the overall AD revenue". If your sport gets no revenue you don't get paid. Pretty simple actually.
You don't think any of those change the game? Ok, I don't think we could discuss it any further then
 

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You don't think any of those change the game? Ok, I don't think we could discuss it any further then
Serious question, what do you think will change? If Denard is getting paid $50k a year to play at Michigan, what about the game we all love do you think differs?
 

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Serious question, what do you think will change? If Denard is getting paid $50k a year to play at Michigan, what about the game we all love do you think differs?
Ok let's use your example:

Circa 2008

Denard Robinson v. Tate Forcier

Does Denard get $50k when Forcier is the starter? Do they get the same regardless?

Forcier imploded...what happens to his "stipend" of $50k?
 

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Ok let's use your example:

Circa 2008

Denard Robinson v. Tate Forcier

Does Denard get $50k when Forcier is the starter? Do they get the same regardless?

Forcier imploded...what happens to his "stipend" of $50k?
Again, no matter how the money breaks down how does that change the product you're watching on the field? If it's a shared resource, or distributed by importance of the player, how does your fan experience with the game change?
 

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Long before 1999-2006...
Man, he was good! Too bad Texas didn't have the LHN back then. Maybe, they could have afforded out-bidding SMU for #19 or a faster defender than #17 who might be able to catch him.
 

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Man, he was good! Too bad Texas didn't have the LHN back then. Maybe, they could have afforded out-bidding SMU for #19 or a faster defender than #17 who might be able to catch him.
Nobody was catching Dickerson..

Now about the XFL and NFL getting the highly rated football players straight from highschool.. Do you know how much of a hit or miss that is? If you take the top 50 kids in the composite ranking, what is the hit rate that they will make it to the NFL on day one or two? Good luck with OL recruiting, it's the hardest position to project, LB is next.

CFB is the perfect minor league system, thinking the XFL could provide that is a joke. Schools bring out passion that an XFL team could never bring. Think Texans will be paying attention to the Detroit Dildo riders because one of the top players from Dallas signs there right after high school?? No, they pay attention for them to choose (most of the time) to a school in Texas.
 

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Nobody was catching Dickerson..

Now about the XFL and NFL getting the highly rated football players straight from highschool.. Do you know how much of a hit or miss that is? If you take the top 50 kids in the composite ranking, what is the hit rate that they will make it to the NFL on day one or two? Good luck with OL recruiting, it's the hardest position to project, LB is next.

CFB is the perfect minor league system, thinking the XFL could provide that is a joke. Schools bring out passion that an XFL team could never bring. Think Texans will be paying attention to the Detroit Dildo riders because one of the top players from Dallas signs there right after high school?? No, they pay attention for them to choose (most of the time) to a school in Texas.
Dickerson was incredible. I never saw in person for SMU, but I saw him run for the Rams. Totally agree about where the kids go makes a difference. People love their schools!
 

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It's a trojan horse to start a union. Fuck that noise

I don’t get trying to start a union when you get what $500 plus thousands in tax free money? Call their bluff and make 99% of them owe the IRS after this. Sure, get insurance but they are the easiest and cheapest age to medically insure. None of the demands are reasonable. If they care so much about their community there are community colleges in every “black community” go there and play a sport to make a difference. Don’t screw the rest of you team who is there to better their lives because you are virtue signaling.
 

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I wonder if these groups realize that it was going to be hard to have a season to begin with. Add in this stuff and it’s Impossible
 
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