Series Thread: 3) Warriors vs 6) Nuggets

[raider bill]

The Dubs have no answer for Jokic. Their weakness is they have no size.

Weren't they subbing Jokic out on defense at the end?

LOL.. they had the answer.

 

[Wamu]

Weren't they subbing Jokic out on defense at the end?

LOL.. they had the answer.

Yes they did. But wasn't he taken out because of the line up the Warriors had on the floor? Don't really remember.

Dray actually criticized him on the defensive end before the season started. And Jokic listened. He's actually played the best D of his career this season.

And speaking of criticism. When Jokic was criticized he listened and improved. Then there's Ben Simmons. He got criticized and then refused to play for the 76ers.

 

[Robotech]

Weren't they subbing Jokic out on defense at the end?

LOL.. they had the answer.

The Warriors are mercilessly hunting Jokic. I wonder what would happen if Jokic just stayed on his man instead of switching onto Curry? If Jokic doesn't switch, does that mean that it's just too easy for Curry to launch open 3's all day during the moments that his defender is working around the screen? I'm guessing so, but I'm not sure.

 

[Wamu]

Draymond "Most Dangerous Legs in the West" Green

I'd like to see Steph, Klay & Dray finish their careers with the Warriors.

 

[Robotech]

I'd like to see Steph, Klay & Dray finish their careers with the Warriors.

I'm pretty optimistic about that. They all came up together. Steph was drafted just a couple years before, I think. They've been through it all together and the NBA lets you pay whatever to keep your own guys. Plus, none of these guys have the big ego where they want to go off and win one on their own apart from their current teammates. And really, Steph is the only one with that kind of superstar status anyway to do something like that. Maybe there is that dream that he can go home to Charlotte and win one??

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yes they did. But wasn't he taken out because of the line up the Warriors had on the floor? Don't really remember.

Dray actually criticized him on the defensive end before the season started. And Jokic listened. He's actually played the best D of his career this season.

And speaking of criticism. When Jokic was criticized he listened and improved. Then there's Ben Simmons. He got criticized and then refused to play for the 76ers.

He’s getting targeted in every action. Even the media who calls the game is calling it out now. He’s getting hunted because he can’t defend. He’s a liability.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

I'd like to see Steph, Klay & Dray finish their careers with the Warriors.

I think you/we will see that happen.

 

[wingsauce7]

He’s getting targeted in every action. Even the media who calls the game is calling it out now. He’s getting hunted because he can’t defend. He’s a liability.

Wait, Nikola Jokic is a liability for Denver?

 

[fightinfunbags]

Wait, Nikola Jokic is a liability for Denver?

Defensively. Should have added that.

 

[wingsauce7]

Wait, Nikola Jokic is a liability for Denver?

Defensively. Should have added that.

According to what?

 

[wingsauce7]

Jokic is 4th in the NBA this year in Defense.
2022 NBA Player Defensive Rating Leaders | StatMuse

 

[fightinfunbags]

According to what?

According to the fact that in both the Suns and the Warriors series that the plan of attack has been to target him in actions because he can be exploited for his lack of mobility. The narrative that he is even a half decent defensive player is unmitigated bull shit. His own coach knows this and removed him for an offensive/defensive substitution in the guts of the game.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Jokic is 4th in the NBA this year in Defense.
2022 NBA Player Defensive Rating Leaders | StatMuse

You’re citing metrics that have no value.

 

[wingsauce7]

According to the fact that in both the Suns and the Warriors series that the plan of attack has been to target him in actions because he can be exploited for his lack of mobility. The narrative that he is even a half decent defensive player is unmitigated bull shit. His own coach knows this and removed him for an offensive/defensive substitution in the guts of the game.

Good argument. See post #351.

 

[wingsauce7]

You’re citing metrics that have no value.

So the rest of the guys on the list suck at Defense too...

 

[fightinfunbags]

Good argument. See post #351.

Already dismissed. You’re propping up formulas made by the Nate Silvers of the world who don’t know shit about basketball. This one is supreme test of someone’s basketball IQ. If someone tries to argue that Jokic is anything but just a guy defensively you know they really don’t know shit about basketball. He’s a defensive liability

 

[fightinfunbags]

So the rest of the guys on the list suck at Defense too...

It’s hit or miss actually.

 

[wingsauce7]

It’s hit or miss actually.

It's the same metrics for all of them. They are called statistics. Over an 82 game season. You are purely emotional.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It's the same metrics for all of them. They are called statistics. Over an 82 game season. You are purely emotional.

That’s actually an advanced stat based on a formula. Where is Nikola Jokic as a defender in your mind? Is he the 4th best defender in the NBA?

 

[Montalban]

This was an accident, unless Draymond is really just that good at targeting an eye ball.

Gee, really?