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2022 HOF Ballot

Wamu

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And if Manny Ramirez ever gets in Cooperstown close the place down.
 

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Wow! Lots of story lines in there... Bonds and Clemens' final year? ARod & Big Papi's first year?

I think Clemens & Bonds finally get in... Rodriguez & Ortiz both fall short because of the steroid not-sees....

Schilling & Sosa fall well short...

its simple IMO if you let Bonds and Clemens in then you let ARod in... and vice versa...

if any get in while another does not make it, then that is the stupidest thing ever... and the voters should all get shot...



the interesting zero drug guys(Ramirez, Sheffield, Ortiz, Sosa, Rodriguez, Clemens, Bonds are not included)

in no order

Schilling
Rolen
Vizquel
Jones
Wagner
Nathan

All else dont deserve to remain on the list next year...

Only Schilling and Wagner would get get my vote... Maybe Nathan...
 

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His stats mean nothing now. In 2009 he was suspended 50 games for violating the drug policy. He's a cheater. And his numbers are fueled by drugs.
 

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His stats mean nothing now. In 2009 he was suspended 50 games for violating the drug policy. He's a cheater. And his numbers are fueled by drugs.

Yikes!

Welcome to baseball in the 90s & 00s... Everyone did steroids... Clemens/Bonds/Ramirez just got caught...

OF, Vladimir Guerrero got in with 93% of the votes, playing during the same era. No one would take Vlad over Ramirez...

Hell, Jeter got in with 99% of the votes - and he played during the same ERA... Just because players didn't get caught, doesn't mean they were clean...
 

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Bonds and Clemens are a different case from ARod and Ramirez. Bonds and Clemens were only “caught” by their names leaking from anonymous tests, while roids were not illegal in the game. ARod and Ramirez were both caught multiple times when the use was explicitly against the rules. That’s a BIG difference.
 

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Yikes!

Welcome to baseball in the 90s & 00s... Everyone did steroids... Clemens/Bonds/Ramirez just got caught...

OF, Vladimir Guerrero got in with 93% of the votes, playing during the same era. No one would take Vlad over Ramirez...

Hell, Jeter got in with 99% of the votes - and he played during the same ERA... Just because players didn't get caught, doesn't mean they were clean...

Everyone did steroids during that era? Well that's incorrect. So you're really saying Jeter (since you mentioned him) took steroids? I find that funny coming from a Red Sox fan. Of course he did.

Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz also cheated the game right? I guess that's why they're all in the HOF?

"everyone did steroids" :laugh3:
 

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Vizquel's an overrated piece of shit.
 

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Stats say he's one of the 10 best right handed hitters of all time.

But hard to overlook the multiple positives, including the female hormone thing, which from what I gather was taken to mitigate the effects of long term anabolic steroid usage.

In short, he's probably not getting in any time soon.
 

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Yes, Manny had great stats. He was a tremendous hitter, but much of his stat line came from a syringe. Anyone that gets caught twice, after knowing that testing and punishment was happening, it is very bad for everyone.
 
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