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2017 NBA Offseason Thread

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Robert Covington finished 4th in Defensive Player of the Year voting (a distant 4th, mind you) and was 20th in votes for the All-Defensive team. Pretty nice for him to get some recognition, assuming it doesn't increase his impending contract extension number.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The Sixers have told agents they will seek one-year deals this summer to preserve future space&quot; per <a href="Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) | Twitter">@ZachLowe_NBA</a>. <a href="https://t.co/8L4JpFYAih">https://t.co/8L4JpFYAih</a></p>&mdash; Derek Bodner (@DerekBodnerNBA) <a href="">June 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I really like this approach. Very Hinkie-ish....
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The Sixers have told agents they will seek one-year deals this summer to preserve future space&quot; per <a href="Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) | Twitter">@ZachLowe_NBA</a>. <a href="https://t.co/8L4JpFYAih">https://t.co/8L4JpFYAih</a></p>&mdash; Derek Bodner (@DerekBodnerNBA) <a href="">June 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I really like this approach. Very Hinkie-ish....

Hmm. That will limit the kind of talent they can bring in -- but I don't think there's anyone they could bring in who would make a huge difference for them. I still like Amir Johnson.
 

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Hmm. That will limit the kind of talent they can bring in -- but I don't think there's anyone they could bring in who would make a huge difference for them. I still like Amir Johnson.

The 2018 FA class is much more exciting. Don't overpay for average talent this year.
Develop our young talent.

If the Sixers show well this season, this could be a prime destination for FA talent.
 

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So J.J. Redick said that Brett Brown was probably the biggest reason as to why he wanted to play for the 76ers and ended up signing here. Go get 'em, Brett.

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So J.J. Redick said that Brett Brown was probably the biggest reason as to why he wanted to play for the 76ers and ended up signing here. Go get 'em, Brett
So, he only trusted Brett for 1 year? He thought the Sixers title equity next year was greater than the Rockets?

Please... The biggest reason was the $23M.
 

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So, he only trusted Brett for 1 year? He thought the Sixers title equity next year was greater than the Rockets?

Please... The biggest reason was the $23M.

I'm sure the money was a huge reason -- but let's not pretend that there aren't other reasons that a 3-point specialist would want to play here. He could potentially average more points per game under Brett Brown than he's ever done before. Consider this -- he attempted 7.7 3P per 36 minutes last year and he's averaged 6.4 per 36 over his career.

Over the last 3 years, Robert Covington averaged 8.2, 9.1, and 7.0 3P per 36 minutes. TLC, Anderson, Saric, Ilyasova, and Sergio all averaged somewhere from 5 to 7 3P per 36 -- and almost all of those guys are not established 3-point shooters. He's going to see increased minutes, increased opportunities, he's going to get to play in Brown's system, he's going to get to play with very talented guys who will help get him open shots. Given that the Rockets are unlikely to win anything this year -- he's getting paid $23 million and gets an opportunity to be one of the focal points of an offense that desperately needs a shooter.

So yeah, the money is a big factor -- but it's not like he wasn't offered pretty good money by other teams. Or do you just like to needlessly pick apart posts by fellow 76ers fans like you did in the OT - Sixers thread?
 

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I'm sure the money was a huge reason -- but let's not pretend that there aren't other reasons that a 3-point specialist would want to play here. He could potentially average more points per game under Brett Brown than he's ever done before. Consider this -- he attempted 7.7 3P per 36 minutes last year and he's averaged 6.4 per 36 over his career.

Over the last 3 years, Robert Covington averaged 8.2, 9.1, and 7.0 3P per 36 minutes. TLC, Anderson, Saric, Ilyasova, and Sergio all averaged somewhere from 5 to 7 3P per 36 -- and almost all of those guys are not established 3-point shooters. He's going to see increased minutes, increased opportunities, he's going to get to play in Brown's system, he's going to get to play with very talented guys who will help get him open shots. Given that the Rockets are unlikely to win anything this year -- he's getting paid $23 million and gets an opportunity to be one of the focal points of an offense that desperately needs a shooter.

So yeah, the money is a big factor -- but it's not like he wasn't offered pretty good money by other teams. Or do you just like to needlessly pick apart posts by fellow 76ers fans like you did in the OT - Sixers thread?
I am not feeling that cat as a 6er fan. Always seems negative. For a while I thought he might be DPD.
 

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Is there any way to change the title of the thread to "2017 76ers Offseason Thread"?

The NBA forum has one titled "2017 NBA Offseason Thread" and it's confusing when both are up on the main page.
 

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I am not feeling that cat as a 6er fan. Always seems negative. For a while I thought he might be DPD.

You may be right. Overly negative -- then again, many Philly fans are.
 

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You may be right. Overly negative -- then again, many Philly fans are.
Please tell me how I'm being negative. I didn't say it was a bad signing, in fact I think it's a good one. I simply said he came to Philly because of the money, which is not a bad thing to do.

I also never said Fultz was a bad pick (I've said he was a perfect fit for the current team). I guess I'm considered negative because I was questioning trading up for Fultz in a talented class where I wasn't sure that Fultz was clearly the best player.

Can a person not question team decisions and still be a fan? Or is it just because I have a different view than the majority of fans.
 

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I'm sure the money was a huge reason -- but let's not pretend that there aren't other reasons that a 3-point specialist would want to play here. He could potentially average more points per game under Brett Brown than he's ever done before. Consider this -- he attempted 7.7 3P per 36 minutes last year and he's averaged 6.4 per 36 over his career.

Over the last 3 years, Robert Covington averaged 8.2, 9.1, and 7.0 3P per 36 minutes. TLC, Anderson, Saric, Ilyasova, and Sergio all averaged somewhere from 5 to 7 3P per 36 -- and almost all of those guys are not established 3-point shooters. He's going to see increased minutes, increased opportunities, he's going to get to play in Brown's system, he's going to get to play with very talented guys who will help get him open shots. Given that the Rockets are unlikely to win anything this year -- he's getting paid $23 million and gets an opportunity to be one of the focal points of an offense that desperately needs a shooter.

So yeah, the money is a big factor -- but it's not like he wasn't offered pretty good money by other teams. Or do you just like to needlessly pick apart posts by fellow 76ers fans like you did in the OT - Sixers thread?

I would argue that the Rockets are a Steph or Durant injury away from being the favorites in the West. While they are unlikely to get to the finals if the Warriors are healthy, they still have not zero odds at finaling.

I'm also not sure how the Sixers situation is better than playing in D'Antoni's offense.

I just think money was the driving factor here. Nothing wrong with that.
 

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Over the last 3 years, Robert Covington averaged 8.2, 9.1, and 7.0 3P per 36 minutes. TLC, Anderson, Saric, Ilyasova, and Sergio all averaged somewhere from 5 to 7 3P per 36 -- and almost all of those guys are not established 3-point shooters. He's going to see increased minutes, increased opportunities, he's going to get to play in Brown's system, he's going to get to play with very talented guys who will help get him open shots. Given that the Rockets are unlikely to win anything this year -- he's getting paid $23 million and gets an opportunity to be one of the focal points of an offense that desperately needs a shooter.

Just got home and had time to look this up. Last year Harden, Ariza, Gordon, and Anderson averaged 9.2, 7.2, 10.2, and 8.6 3PA per 36. Do you really not think that JJ would have gotten many attempts in D'Antoni's offense (or had a better opportunity to make a deep playoff run)? Or that he wouldn't have had talent (like Harden or CP3) around him to create open shots?

Again, I like the JJ signing, but don't think that Brown was the underlying factor to get him in Philly. As long as he's only here on a 1 year deal, I hope Korkmaz can fill that role a year from now.
 

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I would argue that the Rockets are a Steph or Durant injury away from being the favorites in the West. While they are unlikely to get to the finals if the Warriors are healthy, they still have not zero odds at finaling.

I'm also not sure how the Sixers situation is better than playing in D'Antoni's offense.

I just think money was the driving factor here. Nothing wrong with that.

Just got home and had time to look this up. Last year Harden, Ariza, Gordon, and Anderson averaged 9.2, 7.2, 10.2, and 8.6 3PA per 36. Do you really not think that JJ would have gotten many attempts in D'Antoni's offense (or had a better opportunity to make a deep playoff run)? Or that he wouldn't have had talent (like Harden or CP3) around him to create open shots?

Again, I like the JJ signing, but don't think that Brown was the underlying factor to get him in Philly. As long as he's only here on a 1 year deal, I hope Korkmaz can fill that role a year from now.

Yeah, he would have had opportunities in Houston too.

I'm sure money is a big reason he's here -- but it's not the only reasons. So for him to say Brett Brown was a big reason, it's nice to hear. Brown seems to have a lot of good will built up between himself and the players.
 

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Please tell me how I'm being negative. I didn't say it was a bad signing, in fact I think it's a good one. I simply said he came to Philly because of the money, which is not a bad thing to do.

Can a person not question team decisions and still be a fan? Or is it just because I have a different view than the majority of fans.

For the most part, I agree with you.

It's not likely that Redick was going to issue a statement that he only joined the Sixers because $23M was too good to pass up..... even if that is 100% accurate.

I'm guessing 60% money, 10% fit, 10% to generate good numbers for next contract, 10% Brett Brown, and 10% Philly.
 
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