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Series Thread: 2) Phoenix Suns vs 7) LA Lakers

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CP3 looked like he was laboring last night. This was a tough ask for the Suns to begin with. Without a healthy CP3 this series is over.
 

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He has averaged 21.5ppg and 13rpg in 2 games. He's looking damn good.

We're going to agree to disagree on this.

Yes we are.

Because again, his stat line doesn’t tell the story. It never has with him. If it did, he wouldn’t have been waived by the Cavs and traded for nothing by the Pistons.
 

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Yes we are.

Because again, his stat line doesn’t tell the story. It never has with him. If it did, he wouldn’t have been waived by the Cavs and traded for nothing by the Pistons.
*Errrr, um, various sounds of hesitation*

Big difference what the Cavs and Lakers are paying him.
 

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*Errrr, um, various sounds of hesitation*

Big difference what the Cavs and Lakers are paying him.
That works against you...not surprising you don't get that.

The Pistons and then the Cavs were paying him a ton and realized he was not helping. The Cavs would rather pay him not to play and no one would give up an asset they care about for him.

FYI, I don't blame the Lakers for bringing him in. Low risk. If he's hurting them then sit him or play him less.
 

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Ayton does not look like an elite C.

Yes, He would abuse Harrel. He abused AD in game 1.

And yet still, my point is that Harrell helps the offense as much as he hurts the defense. Because Drummond isn’t exactly a great defender either.

The problem is that I believe Vogel is going to play Drummond no matter what because he has the most status. And it may end up costing the Lakers in the end.
Shooting 87 percent from the field seems pretty elite to me
 

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wrong...unless you think Jarrett Allen is elite. He had 2 game stretches where he shot 16-18 (89%) and 19-20 (95%). If 87% is elite what would 95% be?
 
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That works against you...not surprising you don't get that.

The Pistons and then the Cavs were paying him a ton and realized he was not helping. The Cavs would rather pay him not to play and no one would give up an asset they care about for him.

FYI, I don't blame the Lakers for bringing him in. Low risk. If he's hurting them then sit him or play him less.

The reason the Lakers were able and willing to take Drummond in is because he was on waivers. Do you seriously see them signing him for $20m+ for the season if the option was there? Hell no. Probably not even for half that price.

The Lakers had a spare roster spot and are paying him less than $800k for the remainder of the season. It was a low risk/high reward kinda situation. If he works out cool, if not he's warming up the pine and nothing else changes on the rotation.

He was brought in for his rebounding which is exactly what he is doing.
 

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wrong...unless you think Jarrett Allen is elite. He had 2 game stretches where he shot 16-18 (89%) and 19-20 (95%). If 87% is elite what would 95% be?
Except....Allen did it in meaningless regular season games.
 

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Is Ayton elite yet? Probably not. I’d put him in that tier with Allen and Capela. But he has a ton of promise and will quickly eclipse those guys and move into Bam territory.
 

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The reason the Lakers were able and willing to take Drummond in is because he was on waivers. Do you seriously see them signing him for $20m+ for the season if the option was there? Hell no. Probably not even for half that price.

The Lakers had a spare roster spot and are paying him less than $800k for the remainder of the season. It was a low risk/high reward kinda situation. If he works out cool, if not he's warming up the pine and nothing else changes on the rotation.

He was brought in for his rebounding which is exactly what he is doing.

Is he warming the pine if it isn’t working though?

I have my doubts.
 

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The reason the Lakers were able and willing to take Drummond in is because he was on waivers. Do you seriously see them signing him for $20m+ for the season if the option was there? Hell no. Probably not even for half that price.

The Lakers had a spare roster spot and are paying him less than $800k for the remainder of the season. It was a low risk/high reward kinda situation. If he works out cool, if not he's warming up the pine and nothing else changes on the rotation.

He was brought in for his rebounding which is exactly what he is doing.
Go back and reread the thread as your reply has nothing to do with what I've been saying.
 
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Is he warming the pine if it isn’t working though?

I have my doubts.

Of course he will. You think Lebron is not going to be vocal if he's doing more harm than good?

This is the Lakers, not a team like Detroit or Cleveland.
 

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Except....Allen did it in meaningless regular season games.
he also did it against a better defensive center than Drummond....does this mean any center who has a 2 game stretch in the playoffs shooting 87% from field is elite?
 

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Of course he will. You think Lebron is not going to be vocal if he's doing more harm than good?

This is the Lakers, not a team like Detroit or Cleveland.
I mean...they kind of are "a team like Cleveland" when Cleveland had Lebron.
 
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