2/8 AP Poll

[iowajerms]

1 Villanova (32) 20-3 1,566
2 Maryland (13) 21-3 1,499
3 Oklahoma (7) 19-3 1,472
4 Iowa (11) 19-4 1,471
5 Xavier 21-2 1,382
6 Kansas (1) 19-4 1,311
7 Virginia (1) 19-4 1,223
8 Michigan State 20-4 1,144
9 North Carolina 19-4 1,136
10 West Virginia 19-4 1,082
11 Oregon 20-4 905
12 Miami (FL) 18-4 826
13 Louisville 19-4 819
14 Iowa State 17-6 781
15 Texas A&M 18-5 663
16 SMU 20-2 593
17 Arizona 19-5 497
18 Purdue 19-5 456
19 Dayton 19-3 413
20 Providence 18-6 349
21 Baylor 17-6 333
22 Kentucky 17-6 228
23 USC 18-5 225
24 Texas 16-7 199
25 Wichita St 17-6 132

• Others receiving votes: South Carolina 128, Indiana 91, Notre Dame 75, San Diego State 22, Duke 14, Seton Hall 14, Gonzaga 10, LSU 10, VCU 10, Valparaiso 9, Stony Brook 8, Saint Mary's 6, Saint Joseph's 5, UNC Wilmington 4, Hawaii 3, Utah 3, Chattanooga 2, Connecticut 2, George Washington 2, Michigan 1, Monmouth 1

• Dropped from rankings: Indiana 22, South Carolina 25

 

[iowajerms]

i haven't homered Iowa all that much in bball this year, but how is Iowa not above Oklahoma?

Iowa's 4 losses

Dayton (11/27) 82-77 - currently 19-3 and ranked #19
Notre Dame (11/28) 68-62 - currently 16-7 and unranked but is #28
Iowa State (12/11) 83-82 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
Maryland (1/29) 74-68 - currently 21-3 and ranked #2

Iowa's wins against ranked teams or receiving votes

Wichita State (11/29) 84-61 - currently 17-6 and ranked 25th
Michigan State (12/30) 83-70 - currently 20-4 and ranked 8th
Purdue (1/3) 70-63 - currently 19-5 and ranked 18th
Michigan State (1/14) 76-59 - currently 20-4 and ranked 8th
Michigan (1/17) 82-71 - currently 17-7 and unranked but 45th
Purdue (1/24) 83-71 - currently 19-5 and ranked 18th

16 games where they won by 10+ with 8 ranked opponents (# of games) and 2 receiving at least 1 vote

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Oklahoma's 3 losses

Kansas (1/5) 109-106 - currently 19-4 and ranked #6
Iowa State (1/19) 82-77 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
Kansas State (2/6) 80-69 - currently 14-9 and unranked

Oklahoma's wins against ranked teams or receiving votes

Villanova (12/7) 78-55 - currently 20-3 and ranked #1
Hawaii (12/24) 84-81 - currently 18-3 and unranked but 40th
Iowa State (1/3) 87-83 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
West Virginia (1/17) 70-68 - currently 19-4 and ranked #10
Baylor (1/23) 82-72 - currently 17-6 and ranked #21
LSU (1/31) 77-75 - currently 15-8 and unranked but 33rd

13 games where they won by 10+ with 7 ranked opponents (# of games) and 2 receiving at least 1 vote

 

[ericd7633]

i haven't homered Iowa all that much in bball this year, but how is Iowa not above Oklahoma?

Iowa's 4 losses

Dayton (11/27) 82-77 - currently 19-3 and ranked #19
Notre Dame (11/28) 68-62 - currently 16-7 and unranked but is #28
Iowa State (12/11) 83-82 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
Maryland (1/29) 74-68 - currently 21-3 and ranked #2

Iowa's wins against ranked teams or receiving votes

Wichita State (11/29) 84-61 - currently 17-6 and ranked 25th
Michigan State (12/30) 83-70 - currently 20-4 and ranked 8th
Purdue (1/3) 70-63 - currently 19-5 and ranked 18th
Michigan State (1/14) 76-59 - currently 20-4 and ranked 8th
Michigan (1/17) 82-71 - currently 17-7 and unranked but 45th
Purdue (1/24) 83-71 - currently 19-5 and ranked 18th

16 games where they won by 10+ with 8 ranked opponents (# of games) and 2 receiving at least 1 vote

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Oklahoma's 3 losses

Kansas (1/5) 109-106 - currently 19-4 and ranked #6
Iowa State (1/19) 82-77 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
Kansas State (2/6) 80-69 - currently 14-9 and unranked

Oklahoma's wins against ranked teams or receiving votes

Villanova (12/7) 78-55 - currently 20-3 and ranked #1
Hawaii (12/24) 84-81 - currently 18-3 and unranked but 40th
Iowa State (1/3) 87-83 - currently 17-6 and ranked #14
West Virginia (1/17) 70-68 - currently 19-4 and ranked #10
Baylor (1/23) 82-72 - currently 17-6 and ranked #21
LSU (1/31) 77-75 - currently 15-8 and unranked but 33rd

13 games where they won by 10+ with 7 ranked opponents (# of games) and 2 receiving at least 1 vote

The schedules are comparable and OU has one less loss. I'd have OU ahead of Iowa at this point as well, but it's close. It honestly doesn't matter, both would be 1 seeds in their preferred region(Iowa in the Midwest, OU in the South) at the moment.

 

[H2S]

hatred by association, DEPT...

I'm glad that Nova's the newest #1...
the 2016 #1 curse will have them dropping ugly within the week...
good...

I've fucking hated Villanova ever since 1978, when I had to report to an insufferably pompous ass Nova alum supervisor who took every opportunity to jam "Wildcat" droppings into any conversation.

 

[iowajerms]

The schedules are comparable and OU has one less loss. I'd have OU ahead of Iowa at this point as well, but it's close. It honestly doesn't matter, both would be 1 seeds in their preferred region(Iowa in the Midwest, OU in the South) at the moment.

I understand it doesn't matter and all, but iowa has dominated all the teams like K-State on their schedule, home or away. If OU beat K-State or instead of lose to K-State, they lost to Villanova or ISU a 2nd time, then I wouldn't have a problem.

(1) I did all of that to point out that OU doesn't have the obvious better resume like KU was when I tried to say WVU should be above KU. (2) Just 2 days ago, OU had by far the worst loss between the 2 teams.

 

[ericd7633]

I understand it doesn't matter and all, but iowa has dominated all the teams like K-State on their schedule, home or away. If OU beat K-State or instead of lose to K-State, they lost to Villanova or ISU a 2nd time, then I wouldn't have a problem.

(1) I did all of that to point out that OU doesn't have the obvious better resume like KU was when I tried to say WVU should be above KU. (2) Just 2 days ago, OU had by far the worst loss between the 2 teams.

There isn't much difference between ND and K St honestly, and playing a true road game at K St adds to the difficulty. And you could probably throw Dayton in there as well. K St has played a ridiculous schedule, their "worst" loss is a road game against Baylor. That's pretty insane.

 

[Bolts]

I guess a Nova loss should be coming soon, most likely one would be at Temple next week. Would be cool to see SDSU get ranked with them being 11-0 in conf., but the OOC play was so bad I wasn't really expecting them to be. Getting votes at least.

 

[iowajerms]

There isn't much difference between ND and K St honestly, and playing a true road game at K St adds to the difficulty. And you could probably throw Dayton in there as well. K St has played a ridiculous schedule, their "worst" loss is a road game against Baylor. That's pretty insane.

Iowa lost to ND and Dayton in November and it cost Iowa at that time.

 

[ericd7633]

Iowa lost to ND and Dayton in November and it cost Iowa at that time.

Yeah no shit because it was Iowa's 4th and 5th games of the season. Iowa was unranked going into the tournament why would them going 1-2 not cost them?

 

[iowajerms]

Yeah no shit because it was Iowa's 4th and 5th games of the season. Iowa was unranked going into the tournament why would them going 1-2 not cost them?

So, if u compare K-State with Dayton/ND (both top 30), shouldn't OU drop below Iowa?

 

[ericd7633]

So, if u compare K-State with Dayton/ND (both top 30), shouldn't OU drop below Iowa?

OU still has one less loss. If OU loses to Texas tonight, even though Texas is good, I would have no problem Iowa being ahead of OU next week. You're acting as though they have similar records/Iowa has a better resume.

 

[rmilia1]

K State is sneaky good. 13-0 vs teams not in the AP TOP 25. In others words 10 of their 23 games are vs Top 25 RPI teams. Think they're in the low 30s RPI themselves. I wouldn't put them on Dayton level but ND is fair

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Iowa has 4 losses.
OU has 3 losses.

Iowa's ranked wins seem to be all versus the same two teams in MSU and Purdue.
OU has a little more variety having beaten more ranked teams overall.

 

[rmilia1]

Iowa has 4 losses.
OU has 3 losses.

Iowa's ranked wins seem to be all versus the same two teams in MSU and Purdue.
OU has a little more variety having beaten more ranked teams overall.

OU hasn't beaten more ranked teams. Iowa has 5-4. I personally have OU number 1 and Iowa number 2 right now but the rankings are irrelevant. I mean the team ranked 2nd right now has 2 wins over tourney teams all year both at home. That's why they're probably a 3 seed maybe av2 at best currently. Them being ranked 2nd means nothing