1990 MLB Draft Playoff Game 4

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team.


TEAM SEVEN

Lineup
1. Lenny Dykstra CF .375 OBP, 285 SB, 2nd in MVP in 1993
2. George Brett 3B 1st ballot HOF, .305/.369/.487/.857, 3,154 hits
3. Frank Thomas 1B 1st ballot HOF, back to back MVPS 1993/94, 521 HRs
4. Gary Sheffield RF 9X All-Star, 509 HRs, .292 /.393/.514/.907
5. David Justice DH 3X All-Star, 306 HRs, .279/.378/.500/.878
6. Greg Vaughn LF 4X All-Star, 355 HRs, two top 5 MVP finishes
7. Lou Whitaker 2B 5X All-Star, 3X Gold Glove, 4X Silver Slugger
8. Tony Fernandez SS 5X All-Star, 4X Gold Glove, 246 SB
9. Chris Hoiles C .366 OBP/ Fangraphs 46.8 career runs above average defense, .994 fielding pct

Bench
1b/OF John Kruk 3X All-Star, 134 wRC+, .300/.397/.446/.842
C Tom Pagnozzi 3X Gold Glove, 1X All-Star, 37% Caught Stealing
OF Roberto Kelly 2X All-Star, 235 SB/ .290/.337/.430 /.767
2B/3B/1B/LF Gregg Jefferies 2X All-Star, played full seasons at 4 different positions/ .289/.344/.421/.765
SS Mike Bordick 1X All-Star, Fangraphs 139.7 career runs above average defense/ .260 BA

Starting Rotation
SP - Nolan Ryan 1st ballot HOF/ All-time strikeouts leader 5,714, 3.19 ERA
SP - Curt Schilling 6X All-Star, 2001 WS MVP, 3.46 ERA
SP - Bob Welch 27 game winner in 1990 Cy Young winner/ 211 wins/ 3.47 ERA
SP - Ramon Martinez 2X top 5 Cy young placer/ 3.67 ERA/135 wins
SP - Alex Fernandez 18-9, 3.13 era in 1993/3.74 ERA/ 107 wins

Bullpen:
CL - John Wetteland 3X All-star, 330 saves, 2.93 ERA
RP - Jeff Montgomery 3X All-star, 304 saves, 3.27 ERA
RP - Alejandro Pena 3.11 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 7.1 K/9
RP - Paul Assenmacher 3.53 ERA/ 3.31 FIP/ 8.5 K/9
RP - Mike Henneman 193 saves, 3.21 ERA, 1X All-Star
RP - Joe Price 3.65 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 6.5 K/9

VS

TEAM EIGHT

Lineup
1 - CF - Ellis Burks Career 126 OPS+ 352 HR, All Star
2 - LF - Jose Canseco '88 42 HR, 40 SB, MVP
3 - 1B - Mark McGwire Career 163 OPS+, '98 70 HR, All Star
4 - DH - Edgar Martinez '95 195 OPS+, '00 145 RBI, All Star
5 - RF - Dwight Evans Career WAR 66.9, '81 163 OPS+, All Star
6 - 3B - Matt Williams 95 177 OPS+, '94 43 HR, All Star
7 - C - Brian Downing Career 122 OPS+ 275 HR, All Star
8 - SS - Jeff Baluser 97 130 OPS+, '93 110 R, All Star
9 - 2B - Steve Sax Career 444 SB, '86 137 OPS+, All Star

Bench
PH - C - Mike Stanley Career .370 OBP, '93 150 OPS+, All Star
PH - 1B - Von Hayes Career 253 SB, '86 107 R, All Star
PH - OF - Luis Gonzalez '01 174 OPS+ 57 HR, All Star
PR - OF - Brett Butler Career 558 SB, '90 192 H, All Atar
PH - 2B - Tony Phillips 93 130 OPS+, '92 114 R, Career 1319 BB

Rotation
SP - Roger Clemens, R 7X Cy Young, '97, 222 ERA+, Career 4672 SO
SP - Bret Saberhagen, R 2X Cy Young, '89 180 ERA+, '94 11 k/bb
SP - Frank Viola, L 1X Cy Young, 88 154 OPS+, '89 211 SO
SP - Doug Drabek, R 1X Cy Young, '90 2.76 ERA, 22-6
SP - Rick Sutcliffe, L 1X Cy Young, '82 2.96 ERA, '84 213 SO

Pen
CL - John Franco L Career 424 Sv, 2.89 ERA, 7 so/9
RP - Bryan Harvey R '91 1.60 ERA, 46 Sv, Career 10.4 so/9
RP - Bobby Thigpen R '90 1.83 ERA, 57 Sv, All Star
RP - Rick Honeycutt L 83 2.42 ERA, 165 ERA+, All Star
RP - Jeff Shaw R 98 2.12 ERA, 48 Sv, Al Star
RP - Greg Harris R/L 85 2.47 ERA, 1.0 WHIP, 8.8 so/9

 

[Nosferatu]

Please vote for the better team and give reasons why if you want.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Team 8

 

[Nosferatu]

I really like team EIGHT but an all righty lineup swings this one easily for me.

I VOTE TEAM SEVEN

 

[UK Cowboy]

I'll admit, this matchup gives me a migraine. At first glance, team 8 has the better lineup and a little better bullpen, arguably a better staff....BUT.....they start 9 right handed bats....facing a prime Nolan Ryan and Schilling, with no left handed sticks, is just too big a disadvantage in a matchup like this where everyone is so good. I also think Gonzalez would have fit a lot better at LF/2 hole. I've changed the winner 3 times, sticking this time, Team 7 wins 4 games to 3

 

[broncosmitty]

The all righty lineup affected my initial rankings. And it affects my vote.

Team 7.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I'm going to have to go 7 as well.


8 has a pretty nice combo of speed and power at the top but the all righty order is tough for me. Team 7's staff would do a good job of navigating around that


I also really like what team 7 could do with it's bench. Neither bench blows me away but I see more potential with 7's if managed properly.

 

[steveringo]

Darn... You noticed I didn't put r/l in the lineup!

Sigh....

I think my team easily wins game one with Clemens v Ryan.... The rest are toss ups....

I'll vote for 7 and will try to put more thought into my next baseball team!

 

[UK Cowboy]

Darn... You noticed I didn't put r/l in the lineup!

Sigh....

I think my team easily wins game one with Clemens v Ryan.... The rest are toss ups....

I'll vote for 7 and will try to put more thought into my next baseball team!

You're team overall was as good as anyone's I thought. Originally had you ranked top 3. But I pick the matchup as if these two squads were really playing each other, and there's no doubt that was the difference

 

[Shanemansj13]

Team 7

 

[Pack 500]

Team 7 with a great powerful lineup, great defense up the middle at CF, SS, 2B and C and a dynamic trio in the rotation.

 

[wlk3]

I vote 8 because they have the best pitching staff of ALL TIME!!!

 

[blstoker]

Team 7

Team 8 went way too much for nothing but power. When you're lead off was a guy who threatened to hit 40 every year (and rarely lead off at that) that is a problem in my book. Looks like a lot of home runs in this line up, but without a lot of guys who can do anything else (I know Edgar was a gap double hitter, and Sax had little power) then there's gonna be too many solo shots to create any real damage.

 

[da55bums]

Team 7 - anyone who has Jeff Montomery has headaches..

 

[steveringo]

You're team overall was as good as anyone's I thought. Originally had you ranked top 3. But I pick the matchup as if these two squads were really playing each other, and there's no doubt that was the difference

Team 7

Team 8 went way too much for nothing but power. When you're lead off was a guy who threatened to hit 40 every year (and rarely lead off at that) that is a problem in my book. Looks like a lot of home runs in this line up, but without a lot of guys who can do anything else (I know Edgar was a gap double hitter, and Sax had little power) then there's gonna be too many solo shots to create any real damage.

Thanks. I definintely had some drafting issues. I was originaly focused on picking the best individual seasons... Then I relaized I had no leadoff hitter... Then I realized I had no lefties... Then it was too late...

Hey wait... Can I pitch Clemens in games 1, 3 & 7! I'm sure I steroids can help him recover quickly....

 

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