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  1. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Basically looking at the different draft value charts based on performance of picks, 2 #1's and 1 #4 work out to about 7-8 mid round picks. And they gave up another 8 future picks where we don't know where they would fall. So you are saying if a team came up and said we will give you our...
  2. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    HAHAHAHA!!!! You do realize Stephen A Smith for YEARS has been saying the Cavs screwed up by getting Love right? He's been saying they need to trade him for years. But THAT is what you want to show? Please tell me you are wanting to tell me you like Stephen A as a viable source on their...
  3. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    A Cleveland fan talking to someone about pro-sports success is like hearing Charles Barkley try and tell Tiger Woods his golf swing needs work. It's like if Jim Kelly sat down Brady, Yogi Berra, Jordan and Bill Russell and felt he should explain to them what it takes to win it all. Or like Scott...
  4. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    I think you made your point. Other teams front offices... Two #1s is olajuwon and Yao. It's Duncan and Robinson. Magic and worthy. Larry Johnson and Anthony Davis. Shaq and Webber. Franchise changers. In Cleveland your standards are so low it's a #5 scorer who disappeared in the finals...
  5. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    2013 the Cavs selected the worst player in the draft up till they selected Kasarev who was worst. Then they had the two worst players until they drafted again. The only good player, Crabbe they traded away. Lol . Yes let's celebrate that of all things. Managing in 4 picks to take the three...
  6. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Lol. Yay they were just really bad and not awful. And Bennett and Wiggins clearly were the missing pieces for greatness... Oh and don't forget coach Blatt. The guy NBA teams are ringing off the hook. Lol. You are kidding there right? That wasn't a serious post
  7. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    So what you are saying is still no, can't find a single worse drafting of talent than the Cavs from that tank job... Got it. Enjoy your night. I can see why you'd run off without not giving one single instance.
  8. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Three number 1 picks and 2 number four picks acquired in 4 years. That's more elite draft capital some teams have gotten in 40 years or the history of their franchise. It was amazing. Biggest four year haul BY Far (unless you want to show me a bigger one) in nba history. And JR and his 10...
  9. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Yes .The conversation moved to the draft. Defending the bynum/jack/upset deng for a year for 18 mil, 4 first rounders and 3 2nd rounders kinda quieted the fa and trade front. So did turning a #4 overall pick into JR Smith .
  10. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    No. What I am saying is that the Cavs tanked and tanked better than any team in the history of tanking accumulating the best draft picks in a short period of time ever. Then LeBron James in his prime wanted to come home. And they lucked into the greatest player ever wanting to be there...
  11. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    The conversation was actually about that draft haul being a bust overall and LeBron showing up as a free agent wanting to come back to wherewhe grew up is the only thing that saved the Cavs from it. Please don't move the goalposts.
  12. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Nope. I do think their drafts recently haven't been great though. And that's fine. If you can't talk about other front offices to compare to the Cavs that's ok.
  13. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    So what you are saying is that if you ONLY look at Cleveland, and ignore the rest of the NBA, they are the best front office you can find? I like that!
  14. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    I don't know. Their last 5 would be okeafor, embiid, Simmons, fultz, and Iverson . Add LeBron as a Free agent in his prime wanting to come home to that... Yeah. I'd call that a lot better than. Clevelands talent. Makes sense. Even with less picks and no LeBron they've been able to be MUCH...
  15. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Lol... Nope . Just smiling that you can't name ANYONE worse. Ok bud. I gave you a few hours to find worse. The best you could find was a franchise that in it's entire existence hasn't ever had anything close to what Cleveland got in 4 years, and accidently pointing out a pile of them that...
  16. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    They were getting traded regardless because Cleveland completely shit the bed with one of them. And not able to find a worse drafting than that 4 year use of the best elite draft picks in nba history? Just kinda wandering on to turning two #1 picks into a guy who scored 8 a game and...
  17. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    There you go. The two players that were consensus #1s. As soon as you take away the consensus picks . Damn it's an absolute failure. It's like celebrating a team for taking Luck or Peyton.
  18. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Nope. And I won't waver from my belief he was a fine choice either, nor that the Brooklyn pick and IT was a poor return.
  19. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Minnesota.. ok Lets see . Their only #1 pick is towns. That's right. Cleveland in 4 years had 3 times the #1 draft picks of Minnesota in the entire history of their franchise. But even with nothing close. I'd call towns and Irving not far apart. OJ Mayo and Wiggins not far. Donyell...
  20. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Golden State is a championship team with or without Durant. They won 13 straight when he went out that year. So please don't put your words in my mouth and try to pretend that's something I said If you'd like to talk about that drafting and the times in nba history you've seen picks like...
  21. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    And yours is 2-12 without LeBron and everyone else out there is doing A Ok! They set the record for consecutive losses because they are really good just "built for LeBron". Lol
  22. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Lol.... So no? Not one time in the history of the league you can find a team picking up less talent with those five picks?
  23. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    Is that because you were hoping magically they were able to win... Gotta love the "built around him" stuff. Is that code for "can't win without him"?
  24. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    So is that a no? Not one time you can find a draft haul like Cleveland's. Every other team got more talent? Thanks. Enjoy your night
  25. Rockinkuwait

    Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

    And we've talked trades. I don't think the Kyrie was a good one. I don't think the return for two #1 picks was worth it. I don't think trading 4 first rounders and 3 2nd rounders to get rid of the awful fa class of 2013 was a good one. I don't think trading away the last 4 guys they did...
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