POLL Is Brady the GOAT with a SB win this year?

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

DirtDirtDirt said:
You need to be on the Patriots team board, surrounded by people that wanna make love to Tom Brady

You apparently cant handle people that dont

I don't care if you don't like him, I just correct the falsehoods you spew on the boards.

DirtDirtDirt · Jan 20, 2017

NEPatsfan said:
I don't care if you don't like him, I just correct the falsehoods you spew on the boards.

You give your opinions on your favorite pro athlete

Is what you do

I wouldnt expect anything else

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

DirtDirtDirt said:
You give your opinions on your favorite pro athlete

Is what you do

I wouldnt expect anything else

I would think no different of him even if I wasn't a Pats fan. For example I think Rodgers is the one QB that has the potential to possibly unseat him as the GOAT in the years to come.

Malibu · Jan 20, 2017

Voltaire26 said:
Not bad for a 6th round pick!

Just think if the Browns drafted him. Do you honestly think anyone would have heard of him then?

Malibu · Jan 20, 2017

Everything is the eye test for me and there are so many more QB's in the history of the NFL that have done more with less because of there arm, athletic ability, legs, and having to improvise but when it comes to Brady it's a 5-7 yard pass, a defense bailing him out, cheating, a kicker or a lucky wounded duck thrown down field caught by his team. So many passes last year for the Patriots by Tom Brady versus the Broncos in the AFC Championship game that just looked terrible or missed someone wide open and how Brady crawls into a little ball when he is about to get hit while guys like Elway and Rodgers try to make plays down field. Teams win and lose games and while Brady was suspended for cheating of course the Patriots were still winning games. That shows his true value. I only wish I could see Brady on the Browns and actually see if he is capable of doing something with nothing around him. I really doubt it. Peace.

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

Malibu said:
Just think if the Browns drafted him. Do you honestly think anyone would have heard of him then?

Yes, because the Browns would have fd it up and traded him to New England anyways.

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

Malibu said:
Everything is the eye test for me and there are so many more QB's in the history of the NFL that have done more with less because of there arm, athletic ability, legs, and having to improvise but when it comes to Brady it's a 5-7 yard pass, a defense bailing him out, cheating, a kicker or a lucky wounded duck thrown down field caught by his team. So many passes last year for the Patriots by Tom Brady versus the Broncos in the AFC Championship game that just looked terrible or missed someone wide open and how Brady crawls into a little ball when he is about to get hit while guys like Elway and Rodgers try to make plays down field. Teams win and lose games and while Brady was suspended for cheating of course the Patriots were still winning games. That shows his true value. I only wish I could see Brady on the Browns and actually see if he is capable of doing something with nothing around him. I really doubt it. Peace.

So much potential, instead so much fail with this post.

PDay8810 · Jan 20, 2017

For the longest time I held on to Montana but that's changed for me.
Brady has done more with less. IMO...yes, he's the greatest QB of all time.

That doesn't change for me if he falls short of the SB championship this year

LetsGoPats · Jan 20, 2017

NEWSFLASH: Determining the greatness of a quarterback must take all things in consideration. Not just physical ability. Some of the most important aspects of a QB are LEADERSHIP, WORK ETHIC, COMPETITIVENESS, etc. It's a cumulative assessment, and when all factors are assessed, Tom Brady is the best to ever play.

Yes, Aaron Rodgers makes some amazing plays and is gifted. But he's a head case. There's a reason Tom Brady's been to 11 AFC Championships in 16 years and why Rodgers is usually watching the NFC Championship game.

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

He would go down as the most accomplished but not the GOAT.

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

Great Dayne said:
He would go down as the most accomplished but not the GOAT.

When he is done, there is literally almost nothing he won't be tops in. Stop being silly.

LetsGoPats · Jan 20, 2017

Great Dayne said:
He would go down as the most accomplished but not the GOAT.

Jeff George?

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

LetsGoPats said:
Jeff George?

John Kitna?

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

NEPatsfan said:
When he is done, there is literally almost nothing he won't be tops in. Stop being silly.

You have to judge it based on how dominant each player was in his own era. Basically he's identical to Bart Starr. Favre was more dominant in his era. Peyton Manning won 5 MVP's during Brady's prime. Brady does have 4 SB's but again that's a team award. Brady has only been the best QB in the NFL twice in 2010 and 2007. If he would've been the best at his position in his era for 5 or 6 years of his career then their would be a decent argument. As for now he's a really good QB with a dominant team but was never the best at his position with exception of a couple years.

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

Brady will have the GOAT 40 time though with a 5.24 40 time. Many NFL 300 pound guys could beat that.

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

If they win then Bill Bellicheck aka hoodie will go down as the GOAT coach.

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

Brady has too many things working against him to be considered the GOAT

-Manning 5 MVP's in same era as Brady
-Rodgers will end up with more MVP's
-Every SB win has cheating allegations with spygate and deflategate
-Game losing int's that ended their playoff games
-Most clutch kicker of all time
-Only thrived under a check down system with the GOAT NFL head coach
-Put up mediocre numbers first 6 years starting in his career.
-Many top ten defenses on his team including several that were #1 in PPG allowed

NEPatsfan · Jan 20, 2017

Great Dayne said:
Brady has too many things working against him to be considered the GOAT

-Manning 5 MVP's in same era as Brady
-Rodgers will end up with more MVP's
-Every SB win has cheating allegations with spygate and deflategate
-Game losing int's that ended their playoff games
-Most clutch kicker of all time
-Only thrived under a check down system with the GOAT NFL head coach
-Put up mediocre numbers first 6 years starting in his career.
-Many top ten defenses on his team including several that were #1 in PPG allowed

That has to be one of the most ignorant posts on the matter, simply riddled with flaws.

Ricky Roma · Jan 20, 2017

NEPatsfan said:
That has to be one of the most ignorant posts on the matter, simply riddled with flaws.

....'says' the guy who thinks Johnny Unitas' stats weren't all that great.

Great Dayne · Jan 20, 2017

NEPatsfan said:
That has to be one of the most ignorant posts on the matter, simply riddled with flaws.

I forgot to add

-Played in a weak division

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