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What you're failing to understand is regardless who the WR's are in Pederson's offense TE is going to be a priority.
I don't think anyone will try to say the WRs in Philly are good, but I will say Doug is more concerned with quality TE's over quality WR's becsuse thats the offense he runs.

How, is it you claim to know so much about football, yet seem to know very little about the team you root for?

If the Eagles downgraded at TE while equally uograding at WR, Pedersons offense would suffer if he couldn't adjust his game plan.


Are you intentionally trying to be daft? I haven't said at any point that the TEs will not continue to be the a priority. Why are you so deadset on this idea that only TEs or WRs can be thrown to because both cannot be thrown to?

The concept that speed on the outside helps open up the field and a team with no speed on the outside results in defenses playing tighter and less concerned about their back end is for some reason completely foreign to you. Like you're unable to even comprehend it.
 

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Are you intentionally trying to be daft? I haven't said at any point that the TEs will not continue to be the a priority. Why are you so deadset on this idea that only TEs or WRs can be thrown to because both cannot be thrown to?

The concept that speed on the outside helps open up the field and a team with no speed on the outside results in defenses playing tighter and less concerned about their back end is for some reason completely foreign to you. Like you're unable to even comprehend it.

Look everything helps, but Pederson's offense isn't built on the play of WRs. Tell you what, when you figure out Pederson's offense we can talk, until then I'm done with you as I'm tired of arguing with a moron.
 

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Look everything helps, but Pederson's offense isn't built on the play of WRs. Tell you what, when you figure out Pederson's offense we can talk, until then I'm done with you as I'm tired of arguing with a moron.

You still aren't getting it are you? According to you they apparently never throw the ball to wide receivers in Pederson's offense.
 

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It is hilarious that this thread is still alive
 

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You still aren't getting it are you? According to you they apparently never throw the ball to wide receivers in Pederson's offense.
I really need to escape this dream you're having. Never said they aren't thrown to, but they are thrown to less than in a different Offensive plan.
Sounds like you think NFL offenses are cookie cutter and all are the same.

More proof you don't know as much as you think you know.
 

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I really need to escape this dream you're having. Never said they aren't thrown to, but they are thrown to less than in a different Offensive plan.
Sounds like you think NFL offenses are cookie cutter and all are the same.

More proof you don't know as much as you think you know.


Please walk me through this thought process you seem to have that better wide receivers who can actually stretch the the field thus adding an aspect to the Eagles offense that has been missing for two years is not at all an improvement?
 

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Please walk me through this thought process you seem to have that better wide receivers who can actually stretch the the field thus adding an aspect to the Eagles offense that has been missing for two years is not at all an improvement?
Damn you're dense. Never said better WRs don't help, I said regardless Dougs offense will still target the TE more.
Hell better TE,s will help every offense too, but a team with Aaron Rodgers is still going to feture the WRs more unless they had a Kelce, Gronk of Ertz type TE. So yes give the Eagles a top 5 WR they probably change what they are doing but just having a better WR or two, isn't taking attempts away from Ertz and Goedert.

What is it with you and your twin with this all or nothing approach?
 

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Damn you're dense. Never said better WRs don't help, I said regardless Dougs offense will still target the TE more.
Hell better TE,s will help every offense too, but a team with Aaron Rodgers is still going to feture the WRs more unless they had a Kelce, Gronk of Ertz type TE. So yes give the Eagles a top 5 WR they probably change what they are doing but just having a better WR or two, isn't taking attempts away from Ertz and Goedert.

What is it with you and your twin with this all or nothing approach?

And not at any point have I said that the Eagles won't continue to target TE. In fact it's the exact point of my last few posts. Yet you keep completely disregarding this and reiterating your point that has no point at all. Why are you even continually arguing this when at no point have I stated otherwise?
 

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And not at any point have I said that the Eagles won't continue to target TE. In fact it's the exact point of my last few posts. Yet you keep completely disregarding this and reiterating your point that has no point at all. Why are you even continually arguing this when at no point have I stated otherwise?
OK, lets approach it this way.
What's more important in a Doug Pederson offense.
Top end TE's or Top end WR's?
 

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Hell I'd say a real pass catching RB would do more to help the Eagles offense than a many WRs
 

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OK, lets approach it this way.
What's more important in a Doug Pederson offense.
Top end TE's or Top end WR's?


What post of mine are you arguing with exactly? Where was I talking about top end WRs or Eagles running an offense where they only throw to WRs? What post(s) exactly are you continuing this tangent against?
 

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What post of mine are you arguing with exactly? Where was I talking about top end WRs or Eagles running an offense where they only throw to WRs? What post(s) exactly are you continuing this tangent against?

Just trying to explain to you how moronic your bitching about the Philly WR's being the reason Wentz hasn't shown to be AMVP lately.

If you really knew football you'd know Doug isn't overly concerned with deep passes.
 

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Just trying to explain to you how moronic your bitching about the Philly WR's being the reason Wentz hasn't shown to be AMVP lately.

If you really knew football you'd know Doug isn't overly concerned with deep passes.


What kind of stupid take that that? That having the leagues worst WRs won't affect a QB and an offense? Especially when you have a QB and an offense that wants to take shots down the field throughout the game but are unable to do so successfully due to how inept the WRs have been.
 

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What kind of stupid take that that? That having the leagues worst WRs won't affect a QB and an offense? Especially when you have a QB and an offense that wants to take shots down the field throughout the game but are unable to do so successfully due to how inept the WRs have been.

The worse WR's? Maybe there's truth to you and PE1 being the same person.
Both are Over-the-Top all or nothing fuck tards

Do yourself a favor and read up on Pedersons offensive scheme.
 

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The worse WR's? Maybe there's truth to you and PE1 being the same person.
Both are Over-the-Top all or nothing fuck tards

Do yourself a favor and read up on Pedersons offensive scheme.


So Pederson's scheme to you is only pass to the TEs and no passes to WRs?
 

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So Pederson's scheme to you is only pass to the TEs and no passes to WRs?
Come on you cannot be as stupid as you're playing.

Did I ever say WR's don't matter to Pederson? No, I said Pederson relies on TE's more than he does than throwing the ball down field to WR's.

Pederson relies on short quick routes, prefrring to utilize TE's and RB's.

By the way here's some team WR rankings

Pre 2020

Eagles at 15, no where near your Over-the-Top claim or WORSE

Ranking every NFL receiving corps heading into the 2020 NFL season | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Pre 2019

Eagles at 7, again no where near your Over-the-Top claim or WORSE

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...-wide-receiver-corps-power-rankings-team-2019

Do yourself a favor and read up on Pedersons offensive scheme.
 

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Come on you cannot be as stupid as you're playing.

Did I ever say WR's don't matter to Pederson? No, I said Pederson relies on TE's more than he does than throwing the ball down field to WR's.

Pederson relies on short quick routes, prefrring to utilize TE's and RB's.

By the way here's some team WR rankings

Pre 2020

Eagles at 15, no where near your Over-the-Top claim or WORSE

Ranking every NFL receiving corps heading into the 2020 NFL season | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

Pre 2019

Eagles at 7, again no where near your Over-the-Top claim or WORSE

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...-wide-receiver-corps-power-rankings-team-2019

Do yourself a favor and read up on Pedersons offensive scheme.



And at no point have I said that the Eagles are going to be throwing down the field more than they will be throwing to TEs. What I have been saying is inability for the teams WRs to be capable threats down the field has hurt the offense over the past two years and now having capable speed WRs will help the offense tremendously by opening everything else up and giving an aspect to the offense that has been missing since 2017. You have an extremely hard time comprehending something so simple.
 

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The question is did the Eagles even solve their WR issue and/or deep threat issue. You only stretch the defense when you carry a safety with you also or make the defense change up their scheme because they fear the player. Otherwise you just lose one receiving option by running him down the field. Will any of the WRs the Eagles have this year change the way defenses play them? Until proven otherwise the answer is at best maybe. Draft picks and injury prone players don't scare defenses until they prove it on the field. Yet cheerleaders have already written it in stone. This exact conversation played out all offseason last year by a fan boy or two (did you guys forget that already) and when all was said and done it switched to the Eagles had the worst WRs in the league. Maybe this season goes the same way :noidea:
 

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The question is did the Eagles even solve their WR issue and/or deep threat issue. You only stretch the defense when you carry a safety with you also or make the defense change up their scheme because they fear the player. Otherwise you just lose one receiving option by running him down the field. Will any of the WRs the Eagles have this year change the way defenses play them? Until proven otherwise the answer is at best maybe. Draft picks and injury prone players don't scare defenses until they prove it on the field. Yet cheerleaders have already written it in stone. This exact conversation played out all offseason last year by a fan boy or two (did you guys forget that already) and when all was said and done it switched to the Eagles had the worst WRs in the league. Maybe this season goes the same way :noidea:


They have certainly attempted to but yeah remains to be seen. If DeSean stays healthy then that absolutely draws a safeties deep without question. If Reagor can be an effective contributor in year 1 then that also helps draw coverage deep. He was a 1st round pick so he he will definitely get his opportunities deep and if he can capitalize on them then defenses will have to adjust for him down the field.
 
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