Cleveland TE David Njoku asks Browns for trade

Rock Strongo · Jul 6, 2020

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Browns TE Njoku asks for trade, agent says

FaCe-LeE-uS · Jul 6, 2020

Lot of TE-needy teams out there. Njoku would fit right in just about anywhere.

Panthers, Redskins, Cardinals, Packers

RememberTheKoy · Jul 6, 2020

TE quietly one of the most important positions in the modern NFL. You have to go back to Packers-Steelers Super Bowl for there not being a top level TE playing in the game and even then the Steelers had Heath Miller.

Schmoopy1000 · Jul 6, 2020

hell depending on how rich the asking price is, I would hope the Cowboys looked into this.

night · Jul 6, 2020

He is an up and coming talent who wouldn’t be a starter. He wants to play and that makes sense.

Tapey · Jul 6, 2020

Dr. Strangelove · Jul 6, 2020

Kinda saw this coming when they signed Hooper. I could see a few teams inquiring if the asking price isn't too high.

jarntt · Jul 7, 2020

RememberTheKoy said:
TE quietly one of the most important positions in the modern NFL. You have to go back to Packers-Steelers Super Bowl for there not being a top level TE playing in the game and even then the Steelers had Heath Miller.

So...I guess that kills the Wentz has no weapons argument once and for all...

dtgold88 · Jul 7, 2020

Dr. Strangelove said:
Kinda saw this coming when they signed Hooper. I could see a few teams inquiring if the asking price isn't too high.

I think it was the switch in agents that made this happen.

Browns will be a TE happy team playing 2 TE sets as much or more than nearly every team. Rosenhaus might have sold him on a big payday as he does not make money on him untless/until Njoku gets a new deal (as he is a new agent for him).

Njoku needs to talk to Pryor and get his take as Rosenhaus overestimated his value, as well. Though in his case he did not ask for a trade, he just turned down a big deal thinking he'd get more. He got a lot less. njoku needs to realize if Rosenhaus screws up only Njoku pays as Drew has plenty of clients.

as for the asking price? I think it's kind of the other way around. UNLESS they are wowed, they'd just keep him IMO.

CaptainStubing · Jul 7, 2020

Someone wants out of Cleveland? Strange

Shanemansj13 · Jul 7, 2020

I would be fine with a 4th or 5th for him.

Every year seems like the breakout year for him. This year is supposed to be as well with all these other weapons on the field. It's either injuries or just under-production as well as dropped passes, it didn't help with Kitchens as HC. You will see flashes of his athleticism or a great catch but it's very seldom. I think this would be a good system for him but I can also see why his agent is trying to get him that big payday. The Browns have Hooper now and they drafted Harrison Bryant. Njoku is not needed so I would take a mid to late round pick for him...not sure he is worth much more at this point.

dtgold88 · Jul 11, 2020

Shanemansj13 said:
I would be fine with a 4th or 5th for him.

Every year seems like the breakout year for him. This year is supposed to be as well with all these other weapons on the field. It's either injuries or just under-production as well as dropped passes, it didn't help with Kitchens as HC. You will see flashes of his athleticism or a great catch but it's very seldom. I think this would be a good system for him but I can also see why his agent is trying to get him that big payday. The Browns have Hooper now and they drafted Harrison Bryant. Njoku is not needed so I would take a mid to late round pick for him...not sure he is worth much more at this point.

I mean, the guy played fine for a rookie. Improved in 2018 to be a top 10 receiving TE. Then had a freak injury last year.

Is he elite? Nope. Better than Hooper? Maybe, but guess is no. But I'd be more inclined to judge him on 2018 than 2019.

Shanemansj13 · Jul 11, 2020

dtgold88 said:
I mean, the guy played fine for a rookie. Improved in 2018 to be a top 10 receiving TE. Then had a freak injury last year.

Is he elite? Nope. Better than Hooper? Maybe, but guess is no. But I'd be more inclined to judge him on 2018 than 2019.

I dont think he is comparable to Hooper. Hooper was the #1 on one of the best offenses and proved himself...why he got a big deal. I think a mid round pick is fair value for a lot of reasons.

dtgold88 · Jul 13, 2020

Shanemansj13 said:
I dont think he is comparable to Hooper. Hooper was the #1 on one of the best offenses and proved himself...why he got a big deal. I think a mid round pick is fair value for a lot of reasons.

I don't think he's as good as Hooper either. But to be fair compare apples to apples and look at their first 2 seasons. Never mind Njoku played with Kizer, Tyrod and rookie Baker while Hooper played with Matt Ryan.....In addition, Njoku had barely been playing football when he entered the NFL

Njoku - 88 receptions, 1025 yards, 8 TDs
Hooper - 68 receptions, 797 yards and 6 TDs

Hooper obviously was better in his year 3 as Njoku had a freak injury very early in season and coach without a doghouse put him in his doghouse when he was healthy. still his year 3 not much better than Njoku's year 2.

Hooper had an exceptional year 4 and we can only hope he repeats it. Njoku has not had his 4th year yet though with all the talent we have I don't expect too much (I also see Hooper's #s coming down..which is fine).

all that said, I could see dealing him for a 3rd for sure if offered. If no better than a 4th I might be inclined to keep Njoku.

Schmoopy1000 · Jul 13, 2020

dtgold88 said:
I don't think he's as good as Hooper either. But to be fair compare apples to apples and look at their first 2 seasons. Never mind Njoku played with Kizer, Tyrod and rookie Baker while Hooper played with Matt Ryan.....In addition, Njoku had barely been playing football when he entered the NFL

Njoku - 88 receptions, 1025 yards, 8 TDs
Hooper - 68 receptions, 797 yards and 6 TDs

Hooper obviously was better in his year 3 as Njoku had a freak injury very early in season and coach without a doghouse put him in his doghouse when he was healthy. still his year 3 not much better than Njoku's year 2.

Hooper had an exceptional year 4 and we can only hope he repeats it. Njoku has not had his 4th year yet though with all the talent we have I don't expect too much (I also see Hooper's #s coming down..which is fine).

all that said, I could see dealing him for a 3rd for sure if offered. If no better than a 4th I might be inclined to keep Njoku.

Dont forget the idiot Njoku called HC also was running that offense. LOL he cant be blamed for that.

dtgold88 · Jul 13, 2020

Schmoopy1000 said:
Dont forget the idiot Njoku called HC also was running that offense. LOL he cant be blamed for that.

Easily the worst coach I've seen here in my life and not really close....let that sink in.

SteelersPride · Jul 13, 2020

dtgold88 said:
Easily the worst coach I've seen here in my life and not really close....let that sink in.

ATL96Steeler · Jul 14, 2020

RememberTheKoy said:
TE quietly one of the most important positions in the modern NFL. You have to go back to Packers-Steelers Super Bowl for there not being a top level TE playing in the game and even then the Steelers had Heath Miller.

Heath WAS a top level TE imo....possibly the best two way TE in the game at the time.

He was no Tony G, or Antonio Gates as a receiver, but they were no Heath Miller as a blocker. The game is different today...teams want more pass catching from TEs now and at the CFB level many of these TEs are really hybrid WRs....for blocking, many teams will bring in an extra OL these days, but Heath was probably one of the last true old school two way TEs that never had to come off the field.

But to your point...I agree 100%...the new hitting targets opened up the middle of the field...a big athletic guy with a huge catch radius in the middle of the field is a huge asset for a QB.

RememberTheKoy · Jul 14, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
Heath WAS a top level TE imo....possibly the best two way TE in the game at the time.

He was no Tony G, or Antonio Gates as a receiver, but they were no Heath Miller as a blocker. The game is different today...teams want more pass catching from TEs now and at the CFB level many of these TEs are really hybrid WRs....for blocking, many teams will bring in an extra OL these days, but Heath was probably one of the last true old school two way TEs that never had to come off the field.

But to your point...I agree 100%...the new hitting targets opened up the middle of the field...a big athletic guy with a huge catch radius in the middle of the field is a huge asset for a QB.

Agreed on Heath. I was always big on him just wasn't sure if others would qualify him as a top TE in the same light as some of the other TEs in the SB over the past decade.

Shanemansj13 · Jul 14, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
Heath WAS a top level TE imo....possibly the best two way TE in the game at the time.

He was no Tony G, or Antonio Gates as a receiver, but they were no Heath Miller as a blocker. The game is different today...teams want more pass catching from TEs now and at the CFB level many of these TEs are really hybrid WRs....for blocking, many teams will bring in an extra OL these days, but Heath was probably one of the last true old school two way TEs that never had to come off the field.

But to your point...I agree 100%...the new hitting targets opened up the middle of the field...a big athletic guy with a huge catch radius in the middle of the field is a huge asset for a QB.

Dallas Clark was another guy, just very solid productive player that was a great all-around TE. Not sure he was the blocker Heath was but still a top TE.

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