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i think both are going to be good again THIS year. So hard to make an impact as a rookie WR when you're the best one on a team, let alone a team that now boasts 3 good ones.

IMO, it's how we project the future of DAL WR production that we don't agree on. And we'll still be here talking about it in 2022 when we get to see how it all shakes out, I'm sure of that.
Most likely yes :)

But if they sign Dak long term, and they have Cooper, and Zeke, and Lamb, AND sign Gallup to a second deal...that line is gonna suffer something bad..that or the defense will be 11 rookies and journeymen
 

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Most likely yes :)

But if they sign Dak long term, and they have Cooper, and Zeke, and Lamb, AND sign Gallup to a second deal...that line is gonna suffer something bad..that or the defense will be 11 rookies and journeymen

agreed, the dead money cap hit for Cooper going from 40 > 28 > 6 really makes 2022 the make or break year for who stays and who goes, imo
 

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so, anyone think the Brees to Mike Thomas connection takes a step back this year after the latest squabble?
Or do they just go about business as usual since football is their job/livelihood?

Not sure we've seen such a high profile QB-WR connection come in such stark contrast of each other over non-football things, but I can't imagine Brees' leadership won't be in question in that locker room this season over his comments on Yahoo radio show.

(reminder - this is football talk only)
 

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so, anyone think the Brees to Mike Thomas connection takes a step back this year after the latest squabble?
Or do they just go about business as usual since football is their job/livelihood?

Not sure we've seen such a high profile QB-WR connection come in such stark contrast of each other over non-football things, but I can't imagine Brees' leadership won't be in question in that locker room this season over his comments on Yahoo radio show.

(reminder - this is football talk only)

Yeesh, I'm not even touching that one except to say it certainly won't be good for team unity.
 

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so, anyone think the Brees to Mike Thomas connection takes a step back this year after the latest squabble?
Or do they just go about business as usual since football is their job/livelihood?

Not sure we've seen such a high profile QB-WR connection come in such stark contrast of each other over non-football things, but I can't imagine Brees' leadership won't be in question in that locker room this season over his comments on Yahoo radio show.

(reminder - this is football talk only)
I think it takes a step back mostly because Brees' arm is gonna be dead by week 10.

Other than that, I think they'll be able to function without this most recent disagreement having much, if any, factor. There are plenty of teammates, in almost every sport, that disagree on a plethora of subjects but it doesn't seem to influence play in their respective games unless I'm missing tons of examples.


Edit: I am forgetting the fact that MT is charmin soft, though... so maybe that will play a factor on their chemistry this year.
 

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so, anyone think the Brees to Mike Thomas connection takes a step back this year after the latest squabble?
Or do they just go about business as usual since football is their job/livelihood?
I missed this. what was the beef?
 

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I missed this. what was the beef?
Brees talking about never agreeing with anyone kneeling or otherwise protesting during the national anthem. M. Thomas didn't seem all that happy in his response. Wasn't real inflammatory, but very apparent he wasn't happy about it
 

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so, anyone think the Brees to Mike Thomas connection takes a step back this year after the latest squabble?
Or do they just go about business as usual since football is their job/livelihood?

Not sure we've seen such a high profile QB-WR connection come in such stark contrast of each other over non-football things, but I can't imagine Brees' leadership won't be in question in that locker room this season over his comments on Yahoo radio show.

(reminder - this is football talk only)

More about arm talent with Brees. I still think Thomas can put up huge numbers. Not touching Brees with a 10 foot stick
 

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I think they'll be fine. The last thing they want to do is piss Brees off to the point that he just says screw this it isn't worth it and retires which would leave them stuck with the turnover machine at quarterback.
 

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I think they'll be fine. The last thing they want to do is piss Brees off to the point that he just says screw this it isn't worth it and retires which would leave them stuck with the turnover machine at quarterback.

The "F*ck Drew Brees" chants have started in New Orleans, LOL

are saints fans the biggest bunch of whiny babies in the league? sure seems like it the last 4-5yrs
 

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After everything he's done for that organization and city..sad

I think the fans are more mad that he tried to act like he cared and was for their cause, then showed he had no clue what any of it was about.

even Rodgers has a clue, and that dude seems like a total dumb dumb outside of the football field
 

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If the Bucs sign Freeman it sure would mess up a lot of folks banking on either Jones or Vaughn.
 

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If the Bucs sign Freeman it sure would mess up a lot of folks banking on either Jones or Vaughn.

Whichever vet they sign could be a gold mine.

i think it's just coachspeak when Arians was asked about Freeman

the fact that they haven't reached out to him says enough for me. If the bucs were truly interested in working out a deal for Freeman, does anyone really think Arians would tip his hand to the media before reaching out to the actual player/agent?

I don't.

and the bucs have 4.8mil available right now, 2nd lowest amount of cap room in the league, but they are going to bring in an old RB that hasn't stayed healthy in multiple seasons in a row? unlikely.

I could see McCoy over Freeman or Lamar, but really, don't think any of them will end up playing with Tompa Brady
 

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i think it's just coachspeak when Arians was asked about Freeman

the fact that they haven't reached out to him says enough for me. If the bucs were truly interested in working out a deal for Freeman, does anyone really think Arians would tip his hand to the media before reaching out to the actual player/agent?

I don't.

and the bucs have 4.8mil available right now, 2nd lowest amount of cap room in the league, but they are going to bring in an old RB that hasn't stayed healthy in multiple seasons in a row? unlikely.

I could see McCoy over Freeman or Lamar, but really, don't think any of them will end up playing with Tompa Brady
That's pretty much where I'm at on it too. Think theres a higher chance they sign Kaepernick than Freeman. If Seattle didn't give him enough, I doubt Arians will.
And I also could see a vet minimum, or near minimum, deal for Shady, or Crow or MAYBE Miller, but that about the best I would imagine
 

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i think it's just coachspeak when Arians was asked about Freeman

the fact that they haven't reached out to him says enough for me. If the bucs were truly interested in working out a deal for Freeman, does anyone really think Arians would tip his hand to the media before reaching out to the actual player/agent?

I don't.

and the bucs have 4.8mil available right now, 2nd lowest amount of cap room in the league, but they are going to bring in an old RB that hasn't stayed healthy in multiple seasons in a row? unlikely.

I could see McCoy over Freeman or Lamar, but really, don't think any of them will end up playing with Tompa Brady
Ok, I hear you. Now how stupid is it not to get Brady a vet RB he can trust?

Another angle: Arians hates rookie RBs. 19 carries for Mendenhall after being drafted #23. Didn't use David Johnson until week 10. Two examples.

They're are going to need a real vet back there that can see what Brady sees.
 

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Ok, I hear you. Now how stupid is it not to get Brady a vet RB he can trust?

Another angle: Arians hates rookie RBs. 19 carries for Mendenhall after being drafted #23. Didn't use David Johnson until week 10. Two examples.

They're are going to need a real vet back there that can see what Brady sees.
Love how obscure scraps of stats are pointed to as evidence, and no context is ever given.

Pitt had a 28 year old Willie Parker coming off a pro bowl season, and then Mendy fractured his shoulder during his first real playing time, hitting IR. And besides, Bruce was OC..not the end all be all of deciding who played, or who they drafted

and DJ actually wasnt used until WK 11, and that's because newly signed free agent CJ2K was doing just fine, on pace for 1200 at 4.2 a clip, and had he not broke his leg, DJ would've never even been needed either.

Yet "rookie RB" hater Arians had no problems giving a rookie Vik Ballard (5th round) 200 plus carries in Indy as HC, which was the only time in his head coaching career where he didn't have an at least somewhat established veteran RB around to lean on instead of the rookie. Kinda like the situation he has now
 
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