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Yeah won't this season's winner just have an asterisk next to their name? I would think so and it won't mean as much. If Lebron were to get his 4th ring it wouldn't mean as much. Giannis his 1st? That would be ashame. I don't know what to think about it honestly. This is one year I am glad my team isn't in the mix though...doesn't mean as much.
agree I'm glad if this was going to happen better now than 2014-2018. But could also argue this year's winner went through more to win a title than teams in other recent shortened seasons.

Bucks or Lakers (assuming they stay at 1) wont get advantage of home court throughout playoffs, for instance. whoever wins should probably get some credit for how they managed the layoff.
 

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Yeah, I agree with that assessment. I don't think this draft has a truly game changing player, but could certainly help fill roles to fill out a roster. I think this is one of those drafts where you should try and fill need at the top since most players are interchangeable. Like for instance if the Warriors got the #1 pick I'd probably go Wiseman or Toppin. I'm hoping Toppin lands with GSW. I'd love to see the lineup of Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Dray and Obi.
This draft definitely favors GS at top than it will the Cavs (or some other bad teams). GS does not NEED a gamechanger, as you mention.
 

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Toppin is a really good option, but I'm not sure what direction the Warriors are going. This pick is going to be more of a luxury pick than most. I can talk myself into many of the top guys in this draft, aside from Lamelo. Initially I wanted Wiseman, shifted to Edwards then Toppin. Avdija is a great option if the Warriors slip a few picks. Rumor is the Warriors like Haliburton a lot, but that could always just be a smoke screen so a team might not trade up in front of the Warriors for someone they're looking for. Nesmith looks like a good player too, but he's not worth a top 5 pick, even in this draft.

This is a total crapshoot. In the past I had a least an idea of generally who I would want the Warriors to draft. But this year is wide open.
Yep, and as I just said to someone else GS should already be a contender if everyone back healthy (or at least next tier after the elite teams). They don't need a gamechanger -the type who could be a #1, no doubt pick (though wouldn't hurt, of course). Just a good fit for what they already have.
 

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Be a good fit and maybe be a chip with dray to add a real 3rd star

Yep, and as I just said to someone else GS should already be a contender if everyone back healthy (or at least next tier after the elite teams). They don't need a gamechanger -the type who could be a #1, no doubt pick (though wouldn't hurt, of course). Just a good fit for what they already have.
 

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agree I'm glad if this was going to happen better now than 2014-2018. But could also argue this year's winner went through more to win a title than teams in other recent shortened seasons.

Bucks or Lakers (assuming they stay at 1) wont get advantage of home court throughout playoffs, for instance. whoever wins should probably get some credit for how they managed the layoff.

Will be interesting for sure.

I think the way it will play out is that if 1 of the 3 favorites wins (Lakers, Bucks, Clippers), years from now there won’t be an asterisk. If some random team wins, then perhaps there will be.
 

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and I might agree if they talked much about the risk. It's about the money and they don't want to give at all as evidenced by their proposal.

That said, notice the difference between NBA and MLB. Have not hear many (or any) NBA players saying anything about money. If it's an issue they are smart enough to keep it to themselves.

ll I've heard about NBA is there are financial issues to talk over. Not what anyone wants or that they cannot come to an agreement. at the very least, their PR Dept. is far better.

And their union far weaker.
 

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Will be interesting for sure.

I think the way it will play out is that if 1 of the 3 favorites wins (Lakers, Bucks, Clippers), years from now there won’t be an asterisk. If some random team wins, then perhaps there will be.

Asterisks aren't real. They are in the heads of fans with motivated reasoning who want to denigrate another team's win.
 

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Disagree.

First off, it's not like whoever wins will have cheated.

Also, everyone is playing by the same rules.

In fact, considering everything that's happened and the fact that no one will have a true home court advantage, you could make a case that this seasons championship means more than others.

The only "asterisk" would be to note that this season was different and why.

Well not an asterisk but it won't mean as much, as in people/fans won't care as much. As far as the players, coaches, etc. all that is nonsense bc winning is winning.

I am not talking from a circumstance POV just an outside POV...so what does that really mean? Not much.

I will tell you this much. I will be watching more than I ever did even with CLE out of the playoffs. I would think ratings would be off the charts even with no fans.
 

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Yep, and as I just said to someone else GS should already be a contender if everyone back healthy (or at least next tier after the elite teams). They don't need a gamechanger -the type who could be a #1, no doubt pick (though wouldn't hurt, of course). Just a good fit for what they already have.

Yeah and that's the conundrum for me. Generally if you have a top 5 pick, my philosophy is you always go with BPA, regardless of need. But mostly that's because if you have a top 5 pick, you have so many holes in your team that you need to just try to hit on a franchise type player.

The Warriors are in one of the weirdest spots because:

1) It's a weak draft class
2) The core of their team is on the older side
3) They're ready to contend for a championship right now

Those change up the thinking of the draft. Toppin might be the BPA when the Warriors come time to pick, but the Warriors already have Draymond locked up on a big deal, then they also have Paschall. Where does Toppin fit?

Lots of question marks.
 

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Well not an asterisk but it won't mean as much, as in people/fans won't care as much. As far as the players, coaches, etc. all that is nonsense bc winning is winning.

I am not talking from a circumstance POV just an outside POV...so what does that really mean? Not much.

I will tell you this much. I will be watching more than I ever did even with CLE out of the playoffs. I would think ratings would be off the charts even with no fans.

So off the charts ratings, and people won't care as much... :think:
 

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Yeah and that's the conundrum for me. Generally if you have a top 5 pick, my philosophy is you always go with BPA, regardless of need. But mostly that's because if you have a top 5 pick, you have so many holes in your team that you need to just try to hit on a franchise type player.

The Warriors are in one of the weirdest spots because:

1) It's a weak draft class
2) The core of their team is on the older side
3) They're ready to contend for a championship right now

Those change up the thinking of the draft. Toppin might be the BPA when the Warriors come time to pick, but the Warriors already have Draymond locked up on a big deal, then they also have Paschall. Where does Toppin fit?

Lots of question marks.

This is why people who think winning a ring is just having a couple superstars and rolling the ball out on the court are so dumb. It's HARD to win a championship.
 

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And their union far weaker.
Might not have noticed, but NBA players have it OK. They get paid pretty well from the jump if they go round 1 and don't have to ride in buses (for 3-5 years in most cases like their baseball brethren with the tough union), making peanuts after their signing bonus.

Even after a nice rookie deal after 4 years they can be a RFA in the NBA. At best, the baseball player gets to go to arbitration after 4 years...which comes after those initial 3-5 years of bus riding.

Also looking like the older vets (those in their early-mid 30s, but not crazy old) are getting phased out by younger players.

NBA players have done OK for themselves in negotiations compared to baseball guys.
 

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Yeah and that's the conundrum for me. Generally if you have a top 5 pick, my philosophy is you always go with BPA, regardless of need. But mostly that's because if you have a top 5 pick, you have so many holes in your team that you need to just try to hit on a franchise type player.

The Warriors are in one of the weirdest spots because:

1) It's a weak draft class
2) The core of their team is on the older side
3) They're ready to contend for a championship right now

Those change up the thinking of the draft. Toppin might be the BPA when the Warriors come time to pick, but the Warriors already have Draymond locked up on a big deal, then they also have Paschall. Where does Toppin fit?

Lots of question marks.
Good problem to have.
 

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I wonder which team will be smart enough to trade a high pick for Kevin Love?
 

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This draft reminds me of 2016 without Simmons or Ingram.

it’s widely considered the worst since 2000.

this draft might be hardest at the top. No clear stars. Just a lot of guys with talent and upside but no sure bets.
 

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This draft reminds me of 2016 without Simmons or Ingram.

it’s widely considered the worst since 2000.

this draft might be hardest at the top. No clear stars. Just a lot of guys with talent and upside but no sure bets.
What do you mean!? There is a Ball in the draft!
 

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This draft reminds me of 2016 without Simmons or Ingram.

it’s widely considered the worst since 2000.

this draft might be hardest at the top. No clear stars. Just a lot of guys with talent and upside but no sure bets.

2016 draft wasn't horrible.

Simmons, Hield, and Murray played up to their standards. Ingram and Brown are starting to now and that's 5 of the top 10. Sabonis who got selected 11th is damn good. Mid-late 1st round you had Levert, Siakam, and Murray (Spurs). 2nd round was pretty bad though outside of Brogdon
 

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This draft reminds me of 2016 without Simmons or Ingram.

it’s widely considered the worst since 2000.

this draft might be hardest at the top. No clear stars. Just a lot of guys with talent and upside but no sure bets.

2016 draft wasn't horrible.

Simmons, Hield, and Murray played up to their standards. Ingram and Brown are starting to now and that's 5 of the top 10. Sabonis who got selected 11th is damn good. Mid-late 1st round you had Levert, Siakam, and Murray (Spurs). 2nd round was pretty bad though outside of Brogdon
 
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