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No, What I've learned living with both of those groups is that they have a stronger bond to each other than Caucasians. Their family ties are much stronger. It has nothing to do with being dumb or stubborn, it's almost genetic.

Diabetes was nothing until after the turn of the century. Now it's like peanut allergies. When I was growing up and all through high school, every kid that I knew ate a peanut butter sandwich at least twice a week. Now 75% of children have peanut butter allergies. Before 2010 diabetes was never associated with African Americans. The big issue was sickle cell. Nearly every adult regardless of race has hypertension issues. It may not need medication but it's an issue. I think trying to find more excuses for deaths related to COVID is more guilt related than factual.

The truth is that much of the death reporting is pure speculation and misinformation. Not one reliable news source has reported the exact numbers of deaths by race. They can't even give an exact number of deaths by age. The really sad and annoying part of this is that every death is now being somehow connected to COVID. Even suicides.

In the future, please do not make assumptions and then say that "I" am assuming your assumption. And when you accuse me of making an 'assumption' please show that assumption of mine in quotes.
In the future you should not discuss groups when every individual is unique. Many, many Italians have strong family bonds too but that "group" is not mentioned as having higher casualties. When you single out groups you can expect others to read the polarization.
 

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Unfortunateconversation to have. I have black friends I love but I( also have eyes and a brain.
I can't help but notice all the black, mostly men, in the stores here with no masks.
They are giving it to each other while spreading "news? about a conspiracy.

Nancy and her gang want to give YOUR money to "undocumentd" aliens. Pandering for votes on your behalf.

All the give aways are going to have to be paid for. Who is going to pay for it?
Very likely a tax increase for the corporations that got a lot of the money.
The corporations will then pay for it by laying off all the people that really needed help.

And the circle goes round and round.....
I've seen plenty of black men with masks and white men and woman without. It's not a group thing but the will of individuals. As for the handouts, the proposals are desperate, poorly thought out reactions intended to stimulate the economy. As for pandering, there is not a politician ever born who does not pander for votes.
 

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The Colorado Rockies and Arizona Diamondbacks have permanently terminated 25% of their internal staff due to extreme loss of revenue because of the Corona virus. This is just the beginning for professional sports. The billionaire owners won't be billionaires if they have to keep paying people and not being allowed to operate their franchises under normal conditions.

The NFL is talking about 25% stadium capacity, no concessions.

NBA is talking about 10% capacity with each person being separated no less than 4 seats and three rows. No concessions.

There are people who depend on those jobs to live and the $600 a week minimum unemplyment is not going to last much longer. People forget that Unemployment is a tax that placed on business owners and corporations to fund people that they have to let go or cannot hire. My guess is that is will be pretty much exhausted when this is over. Think people making minimum wage will go back to work as long as they can get $600 a week tax free?
 

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The Colorado Rockies and Arizona Diamondbacks have permanently terminated 25% of their internal staff due to extreme loss of revenue because of the Corona virus. This is just the beginning for professional sports. The billionaire owners won't be billionaires if they have to keep paying people and not being allowed to operate their franchises under normal conditions.

The NFL is talking about 25% stadium capacity, no concessions.

NBA is talking about 10% capacity with each person being separated no less than 4 seats and three rows. No concessions.

There are people who depend on those jobs to live and the $600 a week minimum unemplyment is not going to last much longer. People forget that Unemployment is a tax that placed on business owners and corporations to fund people that they have to let go or cannot hire. My guess is that is will be pretty much exhausted when this is over. Think people making minimum wage will go back to work as long as they can get $600 a week tax free?
But what is the revenue from the gate versus revenue from TV and other sources?

I don't know about you but I feel the most for the billionaires who are downgraded to multi-hundred millionaires. The people who can't put food on the table are only down a few thousand.
 

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But what is the revenue from the gate versus revenue from TV and other sources?

I don't know about you but I feel the most for the billionaires who are downgraded to multi-hundred millionaires. The people who can't put food on the table are only down a few thousand.

I realize that we're getting away from the main topic but...........................

I don't have a tom of sympathy for any of these people. Owners or players.

Here are the facts.......Owners have huge expenses to operate a professional franchise. Most NFL and MLB teams have operating expenses near or over one $1B a year. If there is no schedule for a season they still have taxes, fees, utilities, maintenance etc. and while it may be coming out of last year's profits, it's still costing them a ton of mony. Then they have the MLBPA that's saying, pay everyone ther full salary regardless. So Mike Trout makes $37M a year for playing an exhausting 3-4 hours for each of 162 games. Let's say that each of those games is 5 hours. That's 810 hours for the season. That's a measly $45,679 an hour. The owners are talking about playing 80 games. For Trout, that would be $91,358 an hour. Seriously? The average man in this country doesn't make $91,358 working 40 hours a week for 48 weeks. If he did, that would be $47.58 an hour.

The NHL, NBA and NFL are at least trying to come up with a plan. The The baseball owners and players can't get beyond pay. Now there's beginning to be some real unrest with some of the younger baseball owners and they're willing to take massive losses and just shut down baseball until 2022. Allow all contracts to expire between now and then and revise the the MLB contracts not guarantee them. If the union wants to sue, Shut down baseball until 2025. I don't think it will happen, but baseball is losing younger viewers, can't agree on ways to speed up tyhe game and owners have priced players beyond stupidity.

As one owner said Saturday, "I can get a kid who is graduating from high school and have him work with a coach from May until August every day. I can put him on the field in September and he'll hit .290 and have a fielding average of .965. He'll cost me $1M a year. I just may start a professional baseball school and sign kids out of high school and develop them all myself. Sign them to a $25M/25 year contract. If they don't cut it, the contract says I can cut them loose." (I'm paraphrasing, not his exact words)
 

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You got 2900? $1200 each for you and the wife and $500 for a child? My grandson is a full time student and he filled out the forms but hasn't heard back. I told him that I didn't think he would get anything because his mother and stepfather probably claimed him and got $500 for him. That's beside the point. The first round cost just under $3T. Nancy and the lefties want the second round to run up the tab another $6T. They want want everybody in on round two. How about we give all these rioters an extra $10,000 a piece and ask them to give it to the businesses they destroyed?

100,000+ deaths from wearing masks and social distancing. Who's dying? people over 60 in poor health primarily. The younger ones that have died were immune system deficient.

Now they're trying to show that more African Americans and Hispanics are dying than white people. It got cut short. Why? Because during the first six weeks, those two groups did not stay away from each other. No one stayed home, they were visiting they're friends and elderly relatives to make sure that they were okay. Couldn't make a call on a cell phone? Rest homes, hospices and large apartment complexes were and still are the worst hit. Where are those large complexes? Large cities. Who inhabits most of them? Minorities.

You're right Sharky, time to just go back to doing what we do. Yeah, it will get worse before it gets better and the air will get dirtier because people will NOT take public transportation to work, they'll drive their cars. People will continue to wear masks but like some of the idiots I see at Walmart wearing them, it'll be around their chin and not on their nose and mouth. They'll still pick their nose and wipe it on the shopping cart. Old habits are hard to break.

Yep. $1,200 each plus $500 for my kid. I didn't think we'd get anything because I do ok and my job never ended but I guess because my wife is a stay at home mom and we file jointly we somehow qualified. I don't want the money if my taxes are going to go up which seems inevitable.

My sister is a doctor who manages a bunch of nursing homes. They've lost 30% of their patients since this started. That said, she has changed her tune considerably over the last few weeks. While she was at first in favor of the quarantine she now believes it's the worst thing we could've ever done. She told me yesterday that they fully expect another wave of the virus this year and the people they have fought to keep alive are likely going to die anyway and the only thing we've accomplished is prolonging the inevitable while also weakening everybody else's immune systems.
 

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I realize that we're getting away from the main topic but...........................

I don't have a tom of sympathy for any of these people. Owners or players.

Here are the facts.......Owners have huge expenses to operate a professional franchise. Most NFL and MLB teams have operating expenses near or over one $1B a year. If there is no schedule for a season they still have taxes, fees, utilities, maintenance etc. and while it may be coming out of last year's profits, it's still costing them a ton of mony. Then they have the MLBPA that's saying, pay everyone ther full salary regardless. So Mike Trout makes $37M a year for playing an exhausting 3-4 hours for each of 162 games. Let's say that each of those games is 5 hours. That's 810 hours for the season. That's a measly $45,679 an hour. The owners are talking about playing 80 games. For Trout, that would be $91,358 an hour. Seriously? The average man in this country doesn't make $91,358 working 40 hours a week for 48 weeks. If he did, that would be $47.58 an hour.

The NHL, NBA and NFL are at least trying to come up with a plan. The The baseball owners and players can't get beyond pay. Now there's beginning to be some real unrest with some of the younger baseball owners and they're willing to take massive losses and just shut down baseball until 2022. Allow all contracts to expire between now and then and revise the the MLB contracts not guarantee them. If the union wants to sue, Shut down baseball until 2025. I don't think it will happen, but baseball is losing younger viewers, can't agree on ways to speed up tyhe game and owners have priced players beyond stupidity.

As one owner said Saturday, "I can get a kid who is graduating from high school and have him work with a coach from May until August every day. I can put him on the field in September and he'll hit .290 and have a fielding average of .965. He'll cost me $1M a year. I just may start a professional baseball school and sign kids out of high school and develop them all myself. Sign them to a $25M/25 year contract. If they don't cut it, the contract says I can cut them loose." (I'm paraphrasing, not his exact words)
But Trout isn't paid by the hour. He's paid a premium because his ability to add wins is greater than almost anyone else and those wins translate into attendance and other marketability gains.

I'm not saying anyone is worth what he makes but somebody did to give him his contract. In a fair world both sides would agree on damages caused by the situation and amicably agree on how to share that damage.
 

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No, What I've learned living with both of those groups is that they have a stronger bond to each other than Caucasians. Their family ties are much stronger. It has nothing to do with being dumb or stubborn, it's almost genetic.

Diabetes was nothing until after the turn of the century. Now it's like peanut allergies. When I was growing up and all through high school, every kid that I knew ate a peanut butter sandwich at least twice a week. Now 75% of children have peanut butter allergies. Before 2010 diabetes was never associated with African Americans. The big issue was sickle cell. Nearly every adult regardless of race has hypertension issues. It may not need medication but it's an issue. I think trying to find more excuses for deaths related to COVID is more guilt related than factual.

The truth is that much of the death reporting is pure speculation and misinformation. Not one reliable news source has reported the exact numbers of deaths by race. They can't even give an exact number of deaths by age. The really sad and annoying part of this is that every death is now being somehow connected to COVID. Even suicides.

In the future, please do not make assumptions and then say that "I" am assuming your assumption. And when you accuse me of making an 'assumption' please show that assumption of mine in quotes.


I blame GMO's, High Fructose Corn Syrup and Margarine.
 

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Still wondering where the surprises are.

Terribly written article. And impossible to take seriously once he proclaimed Bill would keep Michel in the starting RB role to justify his 1st round pick status.
 

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Still wondering where the surprises are.

Terribly written article. And impossible to take seriously once he proclaimed Bill would keep Michel in the starting RB role to justify his 1st round pick status.
I agree no surprises and the comment about Belichick "proving" anything is absurd. One of my favorite quotes was when he was asked if he takes pride in his "genius" label and he replied something like "I've seen my name and the word idiot associated too" and he wasn't being self deprecating as much as dismissive of that label.

As a side note: I don't think he cares whether it was him or Brady, he just wants to move forward now rather than face bigger consequences later.
 

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As a side note: I don't think he cares whether it was him or Brady, he just wants to move forward now rather than face bigger consequences later.

I agree. I don't think he would ever just step back and let a season go. He believes too firmly in "Do Your Job" and expects his team to do exactly that. BB wants to be in the playoffs and a threat to win every week. Being feared is a lot more fun than being ignored.
 

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Because of the latest controversy and the Covid-19 virus, sports have taken a back seat. As Patriots fans, we have a corner that must be turned and every one of us has been asking questions about Jarrett Stidham. Former Red Sox infielder Brock Holt offered to run routes for Stidham and it was learned that Stidham and Julian Edelman have been working out together for quite some some time. "Constantly" is how Edelman put it.

Jarrett Stidham, Julian Edelman Reportedly Seeing Each Other Constantly
 

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What if Patriots QB Jarrett Stidham is actually very good?
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Jordy McElroy

7 hours ago


I don’t envy New England Patriots quarterback Jarrett Stidham.

It’s impossible to harbor such feelings towards a man slated to serve as the successor to Tom Brady, Boston’s Captain America. It’s hard to empathize with someone expected to make their first career start for an NFL team with six Super Bowl banners already hanging from the rafters. It’s mind-bending to attempt to make sense of the pressure that comes with being the face of an organization that isn’t used to losing.

A cozy year spent living in Brady’s shadow is suddenly being replaced with a beaming spotlight in a no man’s land of premature negativity for Stidham. As if playing the hardest position in the NFL wasn’t already tough enough.

The Twitter fingers and keystrokes are surely warming up, ready to dub the former Auburn quarterback a fourth-round failure. A sharpening of tongues is commencing for every talking head waiting to bury him for tripping in Brady’s footsteps. The angry mob of spoiled fans is already at the door, lashing out with the same pain-shrieking austerity as nails running along a chalkboard.

It’s actually surprising few have stopped and considered one alternative: What if Stidham — or “Stid,” as Belichick likes to call him — actually proves to be a good NFL quarterback?

It would almost certainly be a gut punch to an entire league anticipating a 2020 funeral for the Patriots. But crazier things have happened this year than Stidham proving to be a fourth-round steal.

So you might want to leave those black suits and dresses in the closet for the time being.

From strictly a numbers perspective, Stidham had the greatest preseason ever for a rookie quarterback in the Belichick era in New England. He finished with 731 passing yards, four touchdowns and only one interception. The passing yard total dwarfs even Jimmy Garoppolo’s in 2014, when he posted 618 yards as a rookie.

Granted, those numbers are a bit skewed with Stidham seeing more repetitions behind center, but the objective isn’t to get into a shouting match regarding the chances of the 23-year-old having a higher ceiling than Garoppolo, who was literally a throw away from winning Super Bowl LIV.

Quite the contrary, he’ll have an even steeper hill to climb given the lack of quality receivers and less experience as a full-fledged starter. The similarities are encouraging, however, and give rare insight into what Belichick might have been thinking when resisting the urge to push all of the chips on the table for one of the marquee rookie quarterbacks in the 2020 NFL Draft.

Yes, Stidham was partially responsible for killing the pipe dream of Tua Tagovailoa becoming a Patriot, but he could make up for it by at least following in Garoppolo’s footsteps. Brady is a unicorn with the sort of resume that may never be topped in the NFL, but the Garoppolo ceiling might actually be within reaching distance for a guy like Stidham.

Perhaps he can raise the roof high enough to make Stid stick like Jimmy G.

Make no mistake, Belichick isn’t going full Wile E. Coyote in this cliff-diving experiment. There are a couple of safety nets in place to keep things from completely blowing up in his face. An obvious backup plan is longtime veteran Brian Hoyer, who should know the Patriots system like the back of his hand at this point. He’s a reliable backup capable of serving as the right emergency glass break option if Stidham flounders as a starter.

And don’t expect the Patriots to suddenly morph back into a pass-heavy offense with such a young and inexperienced arm leading the way. Belichick was planting the seeds for what’s to come when unleashing running back Sony Michel back in 2018 on the team’s sixth Super Bowl run. Michel, Rex Burkhead, James White and even Damien Harris will fortify a terrifying backfield for the Patriots, assuming the offensive line holds up.

Outside of Brady, longtime offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia might end up being the biggest loss for the team. His absence at such a critical juncture for the organization could have a significant trickle-down effect, especially if the unit can’t keep grass stains off Stidham’s jersey.

It’s only one of many concerns in a post-Brady era few expected.

This heir to the throne isn’t the one Patriots fans envisioned when replacing an all-time great quarterback. He isn’t a first-round draft pick with a Heisman Trophy sitting on his mantle or a veteran player down on his luck and looking to become Belichick’s next renaissance project. It’s simply a young player hoping to prove his talent runs deeper than a mid-round selection.

Belichick believed in Stidham enough to let Brady walk out the front door for Tampa Bay. He had enough faith to trade out of the first round and pass on drafting a quarterback entirely. Envying Stidham is one thing but doubting Belichick is something else entirely.

An architect of the greatest dynasty in NFL history—his opinion has to count for something.
 

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What if Patriots QB Jarrett Stidham is actually very good?
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Jordy McElroy

7 hours ago


I don’t envy New England Patriots quarterback Jarrett Stidham.

It’s impossible to harbor such feelings towards a man slated to serve as the successor to Tom Brady, Boston’s Captain America. It’s hard to empathize with someone expected to make their first career start for an NFL team with six Super Bowl banners already hanging from the rafters. It’s mind-bending to attempt to make sense of the pressure that comes with being the face of an organization that isn’t used to losing.

A cozy year spent living in Brady’s shadow is suddenly being replaced with a beaming spotlight in a no man’s land of premature negativity for Stidham. As if playing the hardest position in the NFL wasn’t already tough enough.

The Twitter fingers and keystrokes are surely warming up, ready to dub the former Auburn quarterback a fourth-round failure. A sharpening of tongues is commencing for every talking head waiting to bury him for tripping in Brady’s footsteps. The angry mob of spoiled fans is already at the door, lashing out with the same pain-shrieking austerity as nails running along a chalkboard.

It’s actually surprising few have stopped and considered one alternative: What if Stidham — or “Stid,” as Belichick likes to call him — actually proves to be a good NFL quarterback?

It would almost certainly be a gut punch to an entire league anticipating a 2020 funeral for the Patriots. But crazier things have happened this year than Stidham proving to be a fourth-round steal.

So you might want to leave those black suits and dresses in the closet for the time being.

From strictly a numbers perspective, Stidham had the greatest preseason ever for a rookie quarterback in the Belichick era in New England. He finished with 731 passing yards, four touchdowns and only one interception. The passing yard total dwarfs even Jimmy Garoppolo’s in 2014, when he posted 618 yards as a rookie.

Granted, those numbers are a bit skewed with Stidham seeing more repetitions behind center, but the objective isn’t to get into a shouting match regarding the chances of the 23-year-old having a higher ceiling than Garoppolo, who was literally a throw away from winning Super Bowl LIV.

Quite the contrary, he’ll have an even steeper hill to climb given the lack of quality receivers and less experience as a full-fledged starter. The similarities are encouraging, however, and give rare insight into what Belichick might have been thinking when resisting the urge to push all of the chips on the table for one of the marquee rookie quarterbacks in the 2020 NFL Draft.

Yes, Stidham was partially responsible for killing the pipe dream of Tua Tagovailoa becoming a Patriot, but he could make up for it by at least following in Garoppolo’s footsteps. Brady is a unicorn with the sort of resume that may never be topped in the NFL, but the Garoppolo ceiling might actually be within reaching distance for a guy like Stidham.

Perhaps he can raise the roof high enough to make Stid stick like Jimmy G.

Make no mistake, Belichick isn’t going full Wile E. Coyote in this cliff-diving experiment. There are a couple of safety nets in place to keep things from completely blowing up in his face. An obvious backup plan is longtime veteran Brian Hoyer, who should know the Patriots system like the back of his hand at this point. He’s a reliable backup capable of serving as the right emergency glass break option if Stidham flounders as a starter.

And don’t expect the Patriots to suddenly morph back into a pass-heavy offense with such a young and inexperienced arm leading the way. Belichick was planting the seeds for what’s to come when unleashing running back Sony Michel back in 2018 on the team’s sixth Super Bowl run. Michel, Rex Burkhead, James White and even Damien Harris will fortify a terrifying backfield for the Patriots, assuming the offensive line holds up.

Outside of Brady, longtime offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia might end up being the biggest loss for the team. His absence at such a critical juncture for the organization could have a significant trickle-down effect, especially if the unit can’t keep grass stains off Stidham’s jersey.

It’s only one of many concerns in a post-Brady era few expected.

This heir to the throne isn’t the one Patriots fans envisioned when replacing an all-time great quarterback. He isn’t a first-round draft pick with a Heisman Trophy sitting on his mantle or a veteran player down on his luck and looking to become Belichick’s next renaissance project. It’s simply a young player hoping to prove his talent runs deeper than a mid-round selection.

Belichick believed in Stidham enough to let Brady walk out the front door for Tampa Bay. He had enough faith to trade out of the first round and pass on drafting a quarterback entirely. Envying Stidham is one thing but doubting Belichick is something else entirely.

An architect of the greatest dynasty in NFL history—his opinion has to count for something.


Good article. A few things. First, I do not agree that the Pats don't have good receivers. I think they have a great receiving group. Something was simply wrong with the entire offense last year that likely relates to a poor O-line and an aging and close-minded QB.

Additionally, I think the loss of Dante Scarnecchia could be significant but I hope not.
 

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The author apparently made up for underrating the receivers by overrating the RB’s, though. “Terrifying” is a bit hyperbolic an adjective to describe them.

Stidham actually being good might be the biggest “what if” any Boston sports team has ever entered a season with. Here’s hoping.
 
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