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And I mispoke earlier, CEH went in the third, the run on rookie RB's was in the 4th
 

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And I mispoke earlier, CEH went in the third, the run on rookie RB's was in the 4th
Very helpful. Any chance you could show the whole draft. If it's too much trouble then forget it. Would love to see where certain guys went
 

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Very helpful. Any chance you could show the whole draft. If it's too much trouble then forget it. Would love to see where certain guys went
Curious where Josh Allen, Jonathan Taylor, Diggs, Gurley and david johnson, and ruggs and gronk went lol. Sorry kept saying and.
 

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Curious where Josh Allen, Jonathan Taylor, Diggs, Gurley and david johnson, and ruggs and gronk went lol. Sorry kept saying and.

same draft that I emailed to you already
 

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WR, WR back to back....I mean I wouldn't do that especially with Zeke available. If you know you can wrap up one of those WR's in the 2nd, take RB in the 1st. Anyway....

Out of those Bucs WR's we don't know whose Tom go-to guy will be but you can't go wrong....Godwin. Also, love Hill in the 2nd. Could see a replica of 2018 with Hill.
Tom has an affinity for slot receivers and might not have the arm strength anymore to push balls downfield to Evans. I would say Godwin is probably the more likely to receive the lion's share of looks this coming season.

I also agree that going WR WR to start can be very problematic. RB is nowhere near as deep as WR this season and you'd have to hit pretty big on 1 or 2 RBs in the middle rounds to make it worth it.
 

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Tom has an affinity for slot receivers and might not have the arm strength anymore to push balls downfield to Evans. I would say Godwin is probably the more likely to receive the lion's share of looks this coming season.

I also agree that going WR WR to start can be very problematic. RB is nowhere near as deep as WR this season and you'd have to hit pretty big on 1 or 2 RBs in the middle rounds to make it worth it.

I think everyone is over reacting to Brady’s arm strength. I’m pretty sure Bruce Arians wouldn’t wreck his power forward WR just to say he coached 12. Frank Reich also had praise for Brady’s throws. Evans will be fine.
 

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I think everyone is over reacting to Brady’s arm strength. I’m pretty sure Bruce Arians wouldn’t wreck his power forward WR just to say he coached 12. Frank Reich also had praise for Brady’s throws. Evans will be fine.
I'm not saying it's a definite, but the dude is 42 years old. It's not unreasonable to expect a drop-off at this point.
 

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I think everyone is over reacting to Brady’s arm strength. I’m pretty sure Bruce Arians wouldn’t wreck his power forward WR just to say he coached 12. Frank Reich also had praise for Brady’s throws. Evans will be fine.
Video doesn't lie...everything over twenty yards flutters and dies, has for a couple years now don't really care what Frank Reich says or Bruce Arian's thinks...the dude throws ducks deep..which is half of Evans game
 

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Video doesn't lie...everything over twenty yards flutters and dies, has for a couple years now don't really care what Frank Reich says or Bruce Arian's thinks...the dude throws ducks deep..which is half of Evans game

hasn’t used the other half yet, and 12 will exploit that... and some ducks will land, so... sounds like an upgrade to me. :) No more boom or bust weeks.
 

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I'm not saying it's a definite, but the dude is 42 years old. It's not unreasonable to expect a drop-off at this point.

The unreasonable part for me, is us thinking we see more than two of the best QB coaches this game has seen. We shouldn’t expect a Brady-to-Moss type season, but let’s back it up a bit.
 

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Evans will be at least as good as Gronk in his prime. Come on now people.

Evans is the easiest WR to throw to in the league and some of you don't think Brady can do it.:crazy:
 

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Video doesn't lie...everything over twenty yards flutters and dies, has for a couple years now don't really care what Frank Reich says or Bruce Arian's thinks...the dude throws ducks deep..which is half of Evans game
There are only a handful of flutters, and those are 35+ yard passes. You can look at this video of 2019. Take a look at his pass to Bolden at 2:50. He has to avoid the rush up the gut, step right, and throws before his feet are set. That is a 30 yard throw that should have been a duck. He's still got plenty of arm strength. His mobility is my only question. Evans and the gang will share and all eat well so long as Tom is healthy.
 

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Video doesn't lie...everything over twenty yards flutters and dies, has for a couple years now don't really care what Frank Reich says or Bruce Arian's thinks...the dude throws ducks deep..which is half of Evans game

He was pretty accurate up to 30 yards last year he completed 21 to 30 yard passes 18/31(7th) last year. Past that though 31+ he had a bit of a drop off though 5/19 on 31+ passes
 

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Video doesn't lie...everything over twenty yards flutters and dies, has for a couple years now don't really care what Frank Reich says or Bruce Arian's thinks...the dude throws ducks deep..which is half of Evans game

He definitely doesn't have anything close to what Winston does for deep balls.
 

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He was pretty accurate up to 30 yards last year he completed 21 to 30 yard passes 18/31(7th) last year. Past that though 31+ he had a bit of a drop off though 5/19 on 31+ passes
There are only a handful of flutters, and those are 35+ yard passes. You can look at this video of 2019. Take a look at his pass to Bolden at 2:50. He has to avoid the rush up the gut, step right, and throws before his feet are set. That is a 30 yard throw that should have been a duck. He's still got plenty of arm strength. His mobility is my only question. Evans and the gang will share and all eat well so long as Tom is healthy.

Well I exaggerated a bit I guess, 30+, not 20+...I'll eat that crow.

Regardless though, no workout regiment, no diet, no supplement, not even PED's, will beat father time, and no matter what the '19 film shows, he's still another year older than he was
 

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I don't expect 2 top 10 WRs in Evans and Godwin like we saw last year.

my issue here is that better game scripts will limit the opportunities.

Arm strength is a far distant concern for me when it comes to the WRs than sheer passing volume. I stopped buying into Brady as my fantasy QB yrs ago, so no worries there on my end.

If you think the Bucs lead the league in pass attempts again this year, stop puffing and pass that blunt this way
 

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Maybe he is old.
Maybe his passes flutter.
But he is smart.
If the play isnt there, i doubt he launches jump balls.
 

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@The Foot

Tyreek if he falls if not just take Clyde easier to just pick him now than to trade for him later and he has been creeping into the 2nd(1.12 in one league) in the startups i've been watching.
 
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