Who could win in Tampa Bay in January?

Schmoopy1000 · May 26, 2020

Rock Strongo said:
no option for "other"

cannot vote

well the answer is all of them "could"

The question was poorly asked.

jarntt · May 26, 2020

If I were a betting man and at even odds I would say my choice for a road team most likely to beat TB @ TB in January is Atlanta and I'd say it isn't even close with any other team

megalodon30 · May 26, 2020

Brees#1 said:
Denver is a W. They're not beating Brady even if they have had that team's number.

Brady never beats Denver. Even in his prime. Dude lost to Kyle Orton and Brock Osweiler.

sonnyblack65 · May 26, 2020

megalodon30 said:
Brady never beats Denver. Even in his prime. Dude lost to Kyle Orton and Brock Osweiler.

Nonsense. He beat them with Denver's Goat Tebow at helm

CaptainStubing · May 26, 2020

All of the above?

ATL96Steeler · May 26, 2020

rmilia1 said:
Tampa has a better shot of missing the playoffs than being the 1 seed

IDK...with 7 teams it might be 60/40 of them making it.

Actually you're right... I would give them less than 40% chance of the #1 seed.

This is starting to take on some of the CLE like hype from LY. Granted Brady is more reason to believe in Tampa than Baker was for CLE.

rmilia1 · May 26, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
IDK...with 7 teams it might be 60/40 of them making it.

Actually you're right... I would give them less than 40% chance of the #1 seed.

This is starting to take on some of the CLE like hype from LY. Granted Brady is more reason to believe in Tampa than Baker was for CLE.

People are only looking at the positives Brady brings ( experience, smarts, ball security ) but not the deficits he currently has.

Winston has been a top 3 QB in positively rated throws since entering the league. In essence he makes ( and completes ) throws very few guys in the league are capable of making. MANY of those throws resulted in points for Tampa.

Does Brady simply not turning it over as much compensate for all the throws Winston made that Brady cant? Does the talent on Tampa get fully utilized by a QB who cant make a lot of those throws anymore?

I think Tampa will be better but every team in the South got better ( save maybe Carolina )

Itll be interesting to see what happens

wazzu31 · May 26, 2020

Well it appears the Falcons are the only logical choice.

jarntt · May 26, 2020

rmilia1 said:
People are only looking at the positives Brady brings ( experience, smarts, ball security ) but not the deficits he currently has.

Winston has been a top 3 QB in positively rated throws since entering the league. In essence he makes ( and completes ) throws very few guys in the league are capable of making. MANY of those throws resulted in points for Tampa.

to both teams no less!!!

rmilia1 · May 26, 2020

jarntt said:
to both teams no less!!!

Absolutely lol

megalodon30 · May 26, 2020

sonnyblack65 said:
Nonsense. He beat them with Denver's Goat Tebow at helm

He got lucky. Everybody knows that.

GNG · May 26, 2020

Brees#1 said:
TB just might have the number 1 seed with everything I am looking at. Therefore, it comes down to someone having to go to TB and win there to keep them out of the SB. TB really is no great home-field and the NFC is loaded. To me, with such a loaded conference, is the number 1 seed likely to go to the SB?

GNG · May 26, 2020

VikingFan2k2 said:
All of them, but why did you put Chicago over Minnesota?

He's just upset because the Vikings eliminated the Saints from the playoffs last season.

ATL96Steeler · May 26, 2020

rmilia1 said:
People are only looking at the positives Brady brings ( experience, smarts, ball security ) but not the deficits he currently has.

Winston has been a top 3 QB in positively rated throws since entering the league. In essence he makes ( and completes ) throws very few guys in the league are capable of making. MANY of those throws resulted in points for Tampa.

Does Brady simply not turning it over as much compensate for all the throws Winston made that Brady cant? Does the talent on Tampa get fully utilized by a QB who cant make a lot of those throws anymore?

I think Tampa will be better but every team in the South got better ( save maybe Carolina )

Itll be interesting to see what happens

Good points.

Winston...just too wreckless with too many throws that actually cost them games (week 17 vs ATL as an example) but there are no throws he would shy away from.

Brady...I agree, they're not getting 36 y/o TB. Just being more secure with the football will help, but imo I haven't seen enough on DEF to make me think they are a serious SB contender. Shaq Barrett is their version on Vic Beasley to me...an all pro year in '19...now he gets to back it up. Two great ILBs but the back end is just so so.

Better, you can certainly see why Buc fans are excited, but I'm in the wait and see mode too...the South is going to be tough.

rmilia1 · May 26, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
Good points.

Winston...just too wreckless with too many throws that actually cost them games (week 17 vs ATL as an example) but there are no throws he would shy away from.

Brady...I agree, they're not getting 36 y/o TB. Just being more secure with the football will help, but imo I haven't seen enough on DEF to make me think they are a serious SB contender. Shaq Barrett is their version on Vic Beasley to me...an all pro year in '19...now he gets to back it up. Two great ILBs but the back end is just so so.

Better, you can certainly see why Buc fans are excited, but I'm in the wait and see mode too...the South is going to be tough.

The ATL game was a great example. Winstons throw in OT was awful but that game is only in OT because of 2 throws Winston made to Godwin that basically no one else in the league save Mahomes can make.

I love me some Brady but right now hes not capable of utilizing those weapons like an elite QB would be. Thats not a knock its just a fact

That said i think Tampa has a shot to be good if the D keeps up the improvement they had 2nd half of 2019 and they find a semblance of a run game

Manster7588 · May 26, 2020

Brees#1 said:
TB just might have the number 1 seed with everything I am looking at. Therefore, it comes down to someone having to go to TB and win there to keep them out of the SB. TB really is no great home-field and the NFC is loaded. To me, with such a loaded conference, is the number 1 seed likely to go to the SB?

Do you try extra hard to come up with dumb shit, or does it come naturally?

Manster7588 · May 26, 2020

rmilia1 said:
People are only looking at the positives Brady brings ( experience, smarts, ball security ) but not the deficits he currently has.

Winston has been a top 3 QB in positively rated throws since entering the league. In essence he makes ( and completes ) throws very few guys in the league are capable of making. MANY of those throws resulted in points for Tampa.

Does Brady simply not turning it over as much compensate for all the throws Winston made that Brady cant? Does the talent on Tampa get fully utilized by a QB who cant make a lot of those throws anymore?

I think Tampa will be better but every team in the South got better ( save maybe Carolina )

Itll be interesting to see what happens

2019 Brady wasn't very impressive, and that's the reason I'm not writing off NE's chances to win the AFCE for the 40th consecutive year.

OK, I know it hasn't been 40 years but they have faced nearly zero challenges for a long damn time.

eaglesnut · May 26, 2020

ATL96Steeler said:
IDK...with 7 teams it might be 60/40 of them making it.

Actually you're right... I would give them less than 40% chance of the #1 seed.

This is starting to take on some of the CLE like hype from LY. Granted Brady is more reason to believe in Tampa than Baker was for CLE.

Also Arians.

Not really like Cleveland in the two most important ways.

eaglesnut · May 26, 2020

rmilia1 said:
People are only looking at the positives Brady brings ( experience, smarts, ball security ) but not the deficits he currently has.

Winston has been a top 3 QB in positively rated throws since entering the league. In essence he makes ( and completes ) throws very few guys in the league are capable of making. MANY of those throws resulted in points for Tampa.

Brady doesn't need to make those throws. He finds easier throws. Come on now.

sonnyblack65 · May 26, 2020

megalodon30 said:
He got lucky. Everybody knows that.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good

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