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88% of FBS Athletic Directors Want an Expanded College Football Playoff

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had you read my comments, I actually suggested going back to the BCS. I don't want more. But I'd rather have more than the current system. Make sense? BCS > 6-8 team playoff > 4 team playoff
I still say use the BCS to pick the top 2 teams and if there are 3/4 worthy team it enacts the popular ‘plus one’ system in place that was pitched years ago. Unfortunately, while the plus one system is great on paper, if isn’t practical in terms of securing sites, ticket sales, and a ton of other issues.
 

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Just pick the 8 most deserving, regardless of conference, if that means 3/4 SEC teams so be it.
So now, on a yearly basis we will have teams getting a guaranteed bye before the playoffs because they weren’t good enough to play for a conference title?
 

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So now, on a yearly basis we will have teams getting a guaranteed bye before the playoffs because they weren’t good enough to play for a conference title?

Like the current model?

Happened in the BCS too.
 

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Bowl games are meaningless and honestly one of the stupidest ways in which a champion has ever been crowned. Even today with the CFP, teams going to the gator bowl, birmingham bowl, whatever... if you aren't in the playoff, they are literally consolation prizes. Pity. Pathetic and literally mean nothing. Most people don't complain simply because football and football and we will take everything, but the whole idea of bowl games is really stupid if you actually stop and think about it.



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Completely disagree. Bowl games are not all equal, in terms of what game is being played and what school is playing in it. Most smaller schools need the publicity and the cash for their programs. While a Bowl Game does nothing for a P5 team with a 6-6 record, this is the only time a 6-6 G5 team has center stage for once.
 

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Completely disagree. Bowl games are not all equal, in terms of what game is being played and what school is playing in it. Most smaller schools need the publicity and the cash for their programs. While a Bowl Game does nothing for a P5 team with a 6-6 record, this is the only time a 6-6 G5 team has center stage for once.

Which is why I say to either....

1. Expand in such a way that gives them a chance (even though they will rarely make too much noise, they will get that exposure).

2. Divide them into FBS-II and let them do their thing. I'd still watch lol.
 

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Which is why I say to either....

1. Expand in such a way that gives them a chance (even though they will rarely make too much noise, they will get that exposure).

2. Divide them into FBS-II and let them do their thing. I'd still watch lol.
I have straight up been saying this for years. The problem is AD’s are smart enough to know more separation from the P5 means less money that comes to them. If it truly was about getting a level playing field this would have been pitched long ago. But it’s not, it is about the money these smaller schools are able to leach off of from keeping the current system.
 

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I have straight up been saying this for years. The problem is AD’s are smart enough to know more separation from the P5 means less money that comes to them. If it truly was about getting a level playing field this would have been pitched long ago. But it’s not, it is about the money these smaller schools are able to leach off of from keeping the current system.

I almost said to not allow P5 teams to play them, but I changed my mind. They would essentially still be FBS so let the scheduling happen as it does now, but let them play for their own title. Best of both worlds. P5 gets to have tune-up games. G5 gets exposure and money and still gets to crown their own champion.
 

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Conferences already have CCGs. Who said anything about "adding" a CCG? Just because some of the CCGs aren't competitive doesn't mean anyone is wanting to get rid of them. Same for CFP semis. Like was stated, if we are worried about lopsided games then we need to do away with the cupcakes like my Miners...and some conference games as well. There are a shitpot full of games that aren't even close every season. "Lopsidedness" shouldn't be the deciding factor as to whether to expand the playoffs or not. Or even contract them for that matter. We all know what the deciding factor in all this is...and that deciding factor is M-O-N-E-Y.
Adding was probably not the best word, but I meant by having vs not having CCGs doesn’t effect the regular season like adding more to the CFP. I can see the appeal of having more games to watch but my fear is that I don’t want CFB to turn into like every other sport where I’m tuning in only when the playoffs come around. 8 teams probably wouldn’t effect the regular season or maybe it would make it better in a way but for me, what’s not broke don’t fix it. At the end like you said, it comes down to money
 

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I almost said to not allow P5 teams to play them, but I changed my mind. They would essentially still be FBS so let the scheduling happen as it does now, but let them play for their own title. Best of both worlds. P5 gets to have tune-up games. G5 gets exposure and money and still gets to crown their own champion.
But theoretically, lets say I am running the NCAA, what reason would I have to allow you to collect from this paycheck that goes out to all conferences/schools that are helping build up the CFP and generate revenue? No, you choose to create the for peanuts title game, which will likely need a major network to support it just for all schools to break even.

To your point about playing smaller school’s etc, Louisiana is a state that has a ton of smaller FCS programs: Mcneese, Northwestern State, Southeastern, Southern, Grambling, and Nicholls. That isn’t including the G5 schools ULM, ULL, Tulane, and La Tech. I totally get the whole, FBS teams shouldn’t play FCS teams and stick to P5 teams.

The truth is, as someone who wants to see these smaller school’s succeed (in most cases) and is a fan of high school football and giving these kids an opportunity to play at the next level, I really hope FBS/FCS and P5/G5 games never stop. FCS teams can play one FBS game and make more than probably a few seasons worth of home games.
 

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Adding was probably not the best word, but I meant by having vs not having CCGs doesn’t effect the regular season like adding more to the CFP. I can see the appeal of having more games to watch but my fear is that I don’t want CFB to turn into like every other sport where I’m tuning in only when the playoffs come around. 8 teams probably wouldn’t effect the regular season or maybe it would make it better in a way but for me, what’s not broke don’t fix it. At the end like you said, it comes down to money
What I have an issue with is, there will never be satisfaction. 8 turns into 16 which turns into 32. There will always be crying.
 

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Once... yeah, once in only 6 years so far.
Also only happened twice in 16 years with the BCS when a team did’t play in a conference title and Nebraska was a beneficiary of one of those times.
 

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Also only happened twice in 16 years with the BCS when a team did’t play in a conference title and Nebraska was a beneficiary of one of those times.

Sure, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. We got our asses kicked that game lol. Plus there were other glaring issues, such as 04 Auburn. The BCS also didn't stop any of these 'blow outs'.
 

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Sure, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. We got our asses kicked that game lol. Plus there were other glaring issues, such as 04 Auburn. The BCS also didn't stop any of these 'blow outs'.
‘04 was a nightmare scenario similar to what would have happened this year with no playoffs. To add to it, Utah was unbeaten as well, although playing Pitt really wasn’t a great showing of how good they truly were.
 

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‘04 was a nightmare scenario similar to what would have happened this year with no playoffs. To add to it, Utah was unbeaten as well, although playing Pitt really wasn’t a great showing of how good they truly were.

Exactly. So lets expand it and let the chips fall where they may.

Being completely honest, I am for MUCH more "regulations" in the world of CFB. I would prefer to take scheduling away from the schools to make some parity. I would realign conferences and I would change some rules.
 

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So now, on a yearly basis we will have teams getting a guaranteed bye before the playoffs because they weren’t good enough to play for a conference title?

Even in an 8 team playoff all teams will have multiple weeks off. I'd be fine doing away with conference championship games anyways. Leagues are so unbalanced these days you can have a team like Utah get to 11 wins having beaten nobody good, and then a team like Oregon gets credit for beating them, and jumping ahead of a team like Auburn, which is lost too and had a better overall resume despite having an additional loss.
 

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Exactly. So lets expand it and let the chips fall where they may.

Being completely honest, I am for MUCH more "regulations" in the world of CFB. I would prefer to take scheduling away from the schools to make some parity. I would realign conferences and I would change some rules.
In a world that doesn’t need money, I agree. I stand by playing FCS/G5 schools for the mere fact that these schools need the cash. While that is not the purpose for these P5 teams scheduling these games, it doesn’t take away that it is a necessity for some schools to keeps athletic departments going.
 
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