Too early to talk about draft????

I think they had plans to let Carson walk and is the reason they used a FIRST ROUND PICK on Penny. We have a first round pick RB on the team so i hope to GOD they do not use a pick on a RB in the first 5 rounds.

I want a rb in the 3rd or 4th, i dont think penny will be the same and carson shouldnt be resigned.
I would draft a rb every year though, use em and lose em

Screamin12th said:

I think they had plans to let Carson walk and is the reason they used a FIRST ROUND PICK on Penny. We have a first round pick RB on the team so i hope to GOD they do not use a pick on a RB in the first 5 rounds.

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I'm not a big fan of picking RB's so high this draft... I'm ok with rounds 4-5... Post S. Alexander, the last three top 3 round picks we've made haven't turned out too good... Christine Michael, Prosise and Penny (Although I think he'll be a very good back down the road...)

I wouldn't see the point of a RB before the 5th round this year. I have seen nothing from a legitimate source that says Chris Carson won't be back to 100% week 1, so even if you go worst case on Penny for the start of '20 he's still here through the 2021 season. We will also know a year from now if his 5th year option is picked up. If Carson walks then you elevate Penny to be the starter in '21 and draft Carson's replacement at the same time you know if Penny will be here for a 5th season. You don't have to groom RBs on the bench.

JMR said:

I wouldn't see the point of a RB before the 5th round this year. I have seen nothing from a legitimate source that says Chris Carson won't be back to 100% week 1, so even if you go worst case on Penny for the start of '20 he's still here through the 2021 season. We will also know a year from now if his 5th year option is picked up. If Carson walks then you elevate Penny to be the starter in '21 and draft Carson's replacement at the same time you know if Penny will be here for a 5th season. You don't have to groom RBs on the bench.

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Taking an enormous risk assuming they will both be healthy all year.
Its a no brainer to draft a rb somewhere in the mid rounds that could carry the load. Travis homer definitely cannot.

MrSnuggles2k2 said:

Taking an enormous risk assuming they will both be healthy all year.
Its a no brainer to draft a rb somewhere in the mid rounds that could carry the load. Travis homer definitely cannot.

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I made no assumption of complete health all year for any player I mentioned in that post. It's a fact that Chris Carson has missed 3 regular season games the last 2 years, so I am not quite sure what is causing people here to think he's some inordinate health risk. Most starting RBs don't last the whole year without injury.

As far as Homer goes, he's a RB3 type guy. We are not relying on him for a whole lot outside of ST and maybe some spot duty at RB. We have not seen enough of him anywhere to know what he "definitely" cannot do. Pure speculation on your part, opinion and not fact. These are facts related to Homer: touched the ball as a RB in 4 games, ran 18 times for 114 yds and caught 11 passes. In my opinion, that's a pretty damn good showing for a rookie who was thrown in there without much notice.

If you have some credible info that says Carson may not be ready for the season, please share it. If not, then I say the true risk is blowing a pick on RB when you already have talent there and not addressing weaker areas like both lines. The immediate need at RB is the guy between Carson and Homer on the depth chart in the event Penny starts off on the PUP. Cheap veteran FAs are perfect for that. Now if we have information that says Carson is not likely to be ready week 1, then I would agree that changes the calculus. But I don't think that's the case.

Carson can be 100% healthy to start the year, its irrelevant. What is relevant is where we will be in january, i would feel much better with a talented rookie rb ready to take carries in the event we lose all our rbs again.

And homer DEFINITELY cannot be the guy, we saw enough in the playoffs.

MrSnuggles2k2 said:

Carson can be 100% healthy to start the year, its irrelevant. What is relevant is where we will be in january, i would feel much better with a talented rookie rb ready to take carries in the event we lose all our rbs again.

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Makes sense....if we had an unlimited # of roster spots and no salary cap.

And homer DEFINITELY cannot be the guy, we saw enough in the playoffs.

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So you think we need to blow a 3rd round pick to replace Homer as the 3rd string RB?

I don’t feel the Seahawks can risk Carson not being ready for the start of the season, especially since the backup is out until mid season. On top of that Carson is a FA after this season. Only makes sense to draft a RB that they can plug in. A third round pick should do it. Any later you risk getting a jag, any earlier you risk not filling more urgent needs. A team like the Seahawks that want to run the ball can’t afford to be without a viable RB. I believe they will in fact draft a RB round 3.

JMR said:

Makes sense....if we had an unlimited # of roster spots and no salary cap.


So you think we need to blow a 3rd round pick to replace Homer as the 3rd string RB?

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No NO NOOOOO!

That pick needs to go towards the defense. I'm not so much worried about the offense except addressing the o-line.

jerseyhawksfan79 said:

No NO NOOOOO!

That pick needs to go towards the defense. I'm not so much worried about the offense except addressing the o-line.

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Yeah, it would be a waste to do that (pick a RB early) when we need more options to fill out the starting OL & DL. At this point, we don't even really know who our starting RT is now that Ifedi and Fant are both gone. We added players who were backups elsewhere, but I don't think any of them are standouts. Iupati and Fluker are both older and get hurt a lot. And there is a really good chance that Clowney still isn't signed by draft day, so the DL may become a priority.

I still have yet to see anything credible that says Carson won't be ready. You sign a cheap vet to be the RB2 to pick up the slack in the event Penny is on the PUP, then you discard him when Penny comes back or he hangs around based on other injuries. But you don't waste a valuable pick to create a logjam at a position just because you had heaving injuries there at the very end of the previous season. That is called being a prisoner of the moment.

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Yeah, it would be a waste to do that (pick a RB early) when we need more options to fill out the starting OL & DL. At this point, we don't even really know who our starting RT is now that Ifedi and Fant are both gone. We added players who were backups elsewhere, but I don't think any of them are standouts. Iupati and Fluker are both older and get hurt a lot. And there is a really good chance that Clowney still isn't signed by draft day, so the DL may become a priority.

I still have yet to see anything credible that says Carson won't be ready. You sign a cheap vet to be the RB2 to pick up the slack in the event Penny is on the PUP, then you discard him when Penny comes back or he hangs around based on other injuries. But you don't waste a valuable pick to create a logjam at a position just because you had heaving injuries there at the very end of the previous season. That is called being a prisoner of the moment.

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Wouldn't be the first time that Seattle has valued a third string RB with a top half of the draft pick.

JMR said:

Yeah, it would be a waste to do that (pick a RB early) when we need more options to fill out the starting OL & DL. At this point, we don't even really know who our starting RT is now that Ifedi and Fant are both gone. We added players who were backups elsewhere, but I don't think any of them are standouts. Iupati and Fluker are both older and get hurt a lot. And there is a really good chance that Clowney still isn't signed by draft day, so the DL may become a priority.

I still have yet to see anything credible that says Carson won't be ready. You sign a cheap vet to be the RB2 to pick up the slack in the event Penny is on the PUP, then you discard him when Penny comes back or he hangs around based on other injuries. But you don't waste a valuable pick to create a logjam at a position just because you had heaving injuries there at the very end of the previous season. That is called being a prisoner of the moment.

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Book marked, will be fun to see how this conversation ages.

blstoker said:

Wouldn't be the first time that Seattle has valued a third string RB with a top half of the draft pick.

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I'm just saying what I think does or doesn't make sense, not necessarily making a prediction. In this discussion we're throwing out things we want or hope to happen. I'm hoping we don't draft a RB or WR in the first 3 rounds because I think it's not aligned with where we need more talent.

MrSnuggles2k2 said:

Book marked, will be fun to see how this conversation ages.

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Well, of course. This team often does stuff in the draft that I don't expect or don't necessarily agree with. As I just said in another response, I'm just stating what I do or don't want to see happen and giving reasons why. I think drafting a RB early makes a whole lot more sense a year from now than it does in 2.5 weeks.

JMR said:

I'm just saying what I think does or doesn't make sense, not necessarily making a prediction. In this discussion we're throwing out things we want or hope to happen. I'm hoping we don't draft a RB or WR in the first 3 rounds because I think it's not aligned with where we need more talent.

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IDK, we aren't exactly deep at either of those positions. I understand that you want to defend Carson's health issues, but the reality is, he's missed 17 games in his career, played in 1 of 3 possible playoff games and was completely irrelevant in the one he played in. We're a lot closer to where we were in 2016 when Rawls was coming back from season ending injury than you're wanting to admit. There's no way of knowing where the RB room is in terms of being able to come back from these injuries. I hope as much as the next guy that everyone comes back healthy without any ill effects from their injury - but that's not to say adding a third back in the draft is a bad idea - and will most likely happen.

As for WR, we've got Lockett and Metcalf - so, I don't understand where the idea that the WR room is complete because Dorsett has come in. That room needs 1 more guy, as well as a healthy stable of TEs to round out the offense at the skill position. Personally, I would think that Seattle should keep their eyes open if there's a talent they can get, regardless of the position the talent plays at.

Honestly, with what Seattle has done in free agency, it would make more sense that they are looking to go after skill players in the draft.

Fractured hip seems like a serious injury to recover from. Having it heal isn’t the same as being the same as before the injury. I do think the Seahawks need to plan for the worse and draft a good RB this draft. The whole offense revolves around a strong run game and as much as some would like to see that change, it’s not going to change any time soon. Seahawks are full of surprises, but I’ll go on record as saying a RB in the first three rounds is going to happen. Most likely third round where they have two picks.

HaroldSeattle said:

Fractured hip seems like a serious injury to recover from. Having it heal isn’t the same as being the same as before the injury. I do think the Seahawks need to plan for the worse and draft a good RB this draft. The whole offense revolves around a strong run game and as much as some would like to see that change, it’s not going to change any time soon. Seahawks are full of surprises, but I’ll go on record as saying a RB in the first three rounds is going to happen. Most likely third round where they have two picks.

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Still seems to high to snag a RB with the other holes needed filling.

jerseyhawksfan79 said:

Still seems to high to snag a RB with the other holes needed filling.

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The off season had been about adding to the defense and OL. I’m sure the same will happen in the draft, but the Seahawks are going to draft a RB that’s capable of starting and they can do that in the third round. It’s possible they wait if they have a RB they feel they can draft late that they like a lot, but seems to me the third round will produce a RB that has a higher ceiling and floor. RB position is a position that needs constant replenishment.

Does anyone here remember the Seahawks drafting Michael with the second round pick, they didn’t even have a first and had Lynch and Turbin on the roster? Instead of moaning about using a third round pick on a RB, you all should hope it’s not a second or first.